I can't explain the intensity of joy that I felt when I discovered Fingertips
― PaulTMA, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:11 (seven years ago)
Fingertips was my #5. I thought it was a lock for top 10.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:12 (seven years ago)
17: Till My Head Falls Off 898 points, 11 votes, 2 #1s
on Factory Showroom, 1996
live on Recovery in 1996, possibly ripped from me replaying it on TV in 2007 or 08 (Graham Maby on bass):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKx_vybLjNo
live Severe Tire Damage version, 1998
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:25 (seven years ago)
always loved how Fingertrips resembled those commercials where the tracklist would scroll from bottom to top and you'd hear 10-second samples of the songs in yellow. I don't know if those were around in '92 but by the time I got into TMBG they were pretty much ubiquitous.
― frogbs, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:27 (seven years ago)
yes otm, that's exactly what i think of
― fred-a van vleet (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:30 (seven years ago)
I love the melody and lyrics to this song, and I voted it at around this point (#19). I do think it could stand to be about a minute shorter though.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:31 (seven years ago)
those commercials HAD to have been on their mind as a sort of parallel reading to the "shuffle" listening experience.and wow that little youtube beatles fingertips performance.... very cute.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:40 (seven years ago)
so cool to see "till my head falls off" this high. stuck in my head every time i'm writing/revising a lecture for class. this is stunningly good:clearing my throat and gripping the lectern, ismile and face my audience, clearing histhroat and smiling with his hands on the bathroomsink
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:41 (seven years ago)
like basically returning to the "son, i am able, she said" bit of "i palindrome i" but not a literal palindrome, and now accomplishing a musical camera move, swinging around to reveal the reality in the reflection of this poor guy completely falling to pieces. see also "the broken figure silhouetted on the wall" - he never outright recognizes these people as himself. it's obviously about dementia as much as any stock kind of paranoid mania and i think there's a sympathy for the protagonist as much as in "destination moon," the guy really wants to maintain his dignity and the intellectual powers that he knows are slipping away tho he can't state it, it comes out between the lines. ("destination moon"'s sympathies in turn are for the desire for a grand and fantastic end versus the shabby hospital reality of death - basically albert finney's finale in Big Fish.)
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:47 (seven years ago)
16: Whistling In The Dark 902 points, 13 votes
on Flood LP, 1990
live on Post-Modern MTV, 1989:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWCA7xErX08
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:58 (seven years ago)
lol "now here's tin machine with under the god"
― fred-a van vleet (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:11 (seven years ago)
god alone knows what the MTV viewership, clicking in halfway through, would have made of that
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:13 (seven years ago)
"nerds"
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)
15: Particle Man 930 points, 12 votes, 1 #1
banjo demo c. 1989on Flood LP, 1990Live At Mountain Stage c. 1993recorded with TMBG's Other Thing, 2003live with stylophone on The Screen Savers c. 2003
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:39 (seven years ago)
hard to even say much, so long-established in the brain. pretty sure i learned all the words just from tiny toons reruns. "who came up with Person Man?" is still hilarious to me.
(and, not to impugn your overall very excellent versions links, but you missed the schoolchildren performance released on then...)
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:45 (seven years ago)
My #1!
― SlimAndSlam, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:47 (seven years ago)
With four of my top five already gone, I suppose I'm not Mr. Consensus.
(Consensus man, consensus man, doing the things that everyone can...)
― SlimAndSlam, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:48 (seven years ago)
Much as with Istanbul above, I am one of the few spoilsports who did not vote for this. I song I have no interest in hearing ever again.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)
my top 5 and two others in my top 20 have still not showed, but i think all or almost all would be consensus favorites.... i am probably a pretty boring tmbg fan!
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:53 (seven years ago)
Then is not on the ParticleMen channel, and I liked the schoolchildren doing Your Racist Friend as a substitute
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:54 (seven years ago)
lives his life in a garbage can
― fred-a van vleet (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:54 (seven years ago)
7 of my top ten are yet to place, but they will. and the other three already have lol. i think i have doc c beat on the boring tmbg fan front
― fred-a van vleet (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:55 (seven years ago)
I definitely have some top 20 songs that won't appear at this point, but I am still quite confident that my whole top 5 will appear (#5 already has: "Fingertips")
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:56 (seven years ago)
I'm probably a pretty boring TMBG fan circa early 1994. Then I liked John Henry more than it seems most people did.
― SlimAndSlam, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:59 (seven years ago)
my top 5 and two others in my top 20 have still not showed
yikes, glad you said this: I was going to note that you have more than two in the lower top 20, but discovered that I'd missed one discrepancy when fixing everyone's spelling and punctuation for tallying. Let's wind the clock back to yesterday:
27a: I've Got a Match688 points, 9 votes
Dial-A-Song c. 1987on Lincoln LP, 1988
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:08 (seven years ago)
(three people voted for I've Got A Match, six people voted for I’ve Got A Match)
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)
(it would have been higher overall if Shakey hadn't skipped listing #2 to #8 on his ballot, too)
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:12 (seven years ago)
Was away from my desk, missed some highlights!
SUPER PSYCHED to see "Till My Head Falls Off" this high. Looking back, I see I placed it #30 -- why so low? One of my very favorite of the rockers. "And when I lean my head against the frosted shower stall / I see stuff through the glass that I don't recognize at all" one of their most perfectly tuned lines. "I'm not done talking" in some weird way counterpoint to "And now this song is over now." Great.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:32 (seven years ago)
Yes, Particle Man is one of the most overexposed songs in their catalog. But it's also maybe the most perfect song they ever did? I mean, there's not much to it. But every single thing in it has to be there. And the number of changes they ring on the very small set of basic elements is amazing.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:34 (seven years ago)
Five of my top 10 have placed, 2 more definitely will, doesn't seem inconceivable that all 10 will.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:42 (seven years ago)
Agreed, eephus. I think I have a higher tolerance for overexposure than most people, so that didn't bother me when putting together my ballot.
― SlimAndSlam, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:43 (seven years ago)
i love the weird, unannotated moral universe or mythology "particle man" presents. there are four archetypes. triangle man hates and defeats two of the others. universe man is "usually" kind to, we assume, all of them, but also seems to be an arbiter of time/fate (i remember one fan interp that held that his "watch" represented nuclear war). of triangle's two foes, particle seems to have it better than person, but we don't really know because particle man is defined mainly by unknowability. it's like a garbled, broken version of rock-paper-scissors with all these other signifiers floating unexplained, a puzzle with no answer, a fable from another dimension that we can't comprehend because none of the allegorical figures scan for us. and just goofy enough that a warner bros cartoon makes perfect sense: coyote trying to kill roadrunner seems about as fundamental and just-so-story as "triangle man hates person man."
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:45 (seven years ago)
When he's underwater does he get wet?Or does the water get him instead?
^^ fundamental philosophical question right there
― fred-a van vleet (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:49 (seven years ago)
that opening line is an all-timer: "There were 87 Advil in the bottle, now there's 30 left/I ate 47 so what happened to the other 10?"
― frogbs, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:55 (seven years ago)
I remember someone suggesting that this might be (part of) the inspiration for Particle Man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland
― soref, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:55 (seven years ago)
i remember that take too! it's a good one... one, two, three dimensions, with universe man perhaps encompassing all?
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 19:05 (seven years ago)
good lord too low for I've Got A Match
― the dutiful and the banned (rip van wanko), Friday, 26 October 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)
most straightforward/plausible explanation for "particle man" imo is that they were doing a sort of dream-logic surrealist version of a kids' tv show theme a la "spider-man," iow what would this sound like if the person in charge of describing this fight-packed super show's empty-vessel characters kept wandering off onto tangents prompted by the material (what's he like, is he a dot, who came up with this?). a bit like the orson welles "frozen peas" tape, but gentler and more philosophical.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)
(in this light, universe man's watch is just some dumb action accessory they want to sell toys of, so that's definitely in the script)
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 20:06 (seven years ago)
14: Nightgown Of The Sullen Moon 934 points, 12 votes
b-side to They'll Need A Crane, 1989
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 20:26 (seven years ago)
Should have been top 10! I think this may be my favorite TMBG song musically. I only voted it at #3 due to lyrics but still it's totally insane that they threw this off as a B-side.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Friday, 26 October 2018 20:31 (seven years ago)
13: Doctor Worm 971 points, 12 votes, 1 #1
single, 1998:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbmtni4q2_o
Dial-A-Song with QuickCam video, 1997live on Penn & Teller's Sin City Spectacular c. 1999Ka-Blam! video with worm by Kaz, 1999
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 21:08 (seven years ago)
WOW. Of the ones in my top 10, this was one of two I kind of thought wasn't gonna place. One thing I'm learning from this poll is that maybe the B-sides / deep cuts I think of myself as idiosyncratically loving are in fact the same ones everyone loves.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 26 October 2018 21:44 (seven years ago)
It was one of my top 5 that I was 99% sure was going to place!
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Friday, 26 October 2018 21:51 (seven years ago)
Meanwhile I’m surprised to see ‘Doctor Worm’ so high but I got no beef with it
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Friday, 26 October 2018 21:52 (seven years ago)
12: Kiss Me, Son Of God 994 points, 13 votes, 2 #1s
live on WFMU, 1987b-side on Hotel Detective EP, 1988 (one voter specified this version)re-recorded with The Ordinaires backing for Lincoln LP, 1988covered by Frank Bennett, 1998
― It bit the shaggy men. (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 21:59 (seven years ago)
I must have been a frightfully serious young adult by the time Dr Worm was released as I think its perceived childishness (not sure how I gauged this) extinguished my residual enthusiasm for TMBG, after a decade. It didn't help that JJJ put it on high rotation. Today I'm totally digging the horns and the "tell me if you think I'm getting better..." section.
XP: yay for #12!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 26 October 2018 22:01 (seven years ago)
"Nightgown" was my #1, "Doctor Worm" my #15, and I'm on my way out the door so I'll have to save my gushing for later...
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 22:19 (seven years ago)
Spotify's recommended playlist additions are amusing. Their algorithm must have very nearly nailed the top 10!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 26 October 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)