xpost I've even warmed to Coda over the years. Ragged, strung-out Zep can still surprise me.
― dinnerboat, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link
as much as I wanna shit on these guys I know deep down that if a bunch of Jonas-brother lookalikes went all out to imitate Yes I'd probably love 'em unconditionally even if they weren't very good
― frogbs, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link
That Icelandic prog orchestra featuring Jon Anderson is pretty much better than Yes anyway
― imago, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link
Admittedly that is playing the literal songs of Yes, which isn't what gore talking about. Prog is full of dreadful copyists
― imago, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link
well yeah but most of those dudes are in their 30s or 40s and therefore have had plenty of time to come up with their own ideas. if it was a group of kids fresh out of high school who wound up sounding like Starcastle I'd be a lot more forgiving.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link
oh yeah true
― imago, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link
If there was a teen band that played Yes-like prog I think I would be OK with that, since prog is still innately cult. Of course, if there were teens that could play Yes then Adrian Belew or Jeff Beck would hire them for their bands.
But anyway, teen Zep? No thanks. I recently cancelled satellite radio, so have been listening to the local stuff, and I came across these guys all the time starting a few months back, and each time I thought, wtf is this shit, and turned the channel. It was only after the 5th or so stumble-upon that I looked them up and saw that they were selling out sizable venues. I didn't know where the fuck they came from but suddenly they were everywhere and, in the words of a friend, I smelled a rat.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link
as was mentioned elsewhere iirc the problem w/a lot of Zeppelin copycats or bands influenced by Zeppelin is they only ever adhere to the most obvious aspects of the Zeppelin sound, and the aspects that are the easiest to ape. I guess one on hand you have GVF and Kingdom Come, and on another hand you have The White Stripes, who obviously had some Zeppelin influences all over the place but absorbed them into their own sound.
― omar little, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
starcastle is one of the most underrated 70s american prog bands (along with like ETHOS, LIFT, YEZDA URFA, and CATHEDRAL). so glad overplay hasn't worn out their charm
xxxpostsss
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link
honestly i have never had a Zep phase
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
Take two Carouselambras and call me in the morning.
― dinnerboat, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link
weren't the cult the successful band that was like the doors? or are they different?
Astbury wanted to be Jim Morrison (and actully got to be him with that Doors reunion), which eventually was counterbalanced by his band wanting to be AC/DC.
― The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
I cant think of any wannabe arena-sized Doors knockoffs that actually sounded like them ie. with the Manzarek keys and the Krieger jazzy flourishes
(Any that were were nowhere near as successful as the original)
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link
i dunno the early cult/southern death cult was way more goth of that time, the doors obv are an influence on goth as as whole but the vibe is closer to echo & the bunnymen
then they kinda moved into some mix of u2 and hard rock then just hard rock/metal
his vox can be pretty morrison and also just the way he looked and dressed
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link
xpost agree, no one really sounds like The Doors
the closest modern-ish dude to early Morrison in terms of looks and frontman vibe was maybe Hutchence, though his thing was less shaman rock sex god and more pure urbane rock sex god.
― omar little, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
the Doors were a very weird bandthe only band that I can think of sometimes sounds like the Doors is Stranglers...they have prominent organ/keys like that...that's the thing the Doors their darkness and image and vibe is big but not many bands were like them...like they *feel* heavy but the guitar is generally pretty clean and it's so organ driven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFeykueEZNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHnK7m2PNVI
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
The Cult's Electric seemed to kick off this 3 or 4 year cycle of some relatively rookie band getting a big push as the next Zeppelin. Soundgarden's Louder than Love was marketed that way, stuff like Wolfmother as mentioned elsewhere. GVF biggest failing is that there's nothing sinister about them.
Robert Plant in RS in 1988:
Frike: What’s your opinion of the current reincarnations of Led Zeppelin – bands like the Cult, Whitesnake, Bon Jovi and the Mission U.K.?
Plant: They’re all different, aren’t they? I can’t tell you honestly whether Bon Jovi is better than anybody else. I know that the success ratio is fantastic. And I think that’s what counts to them. The aesthetics of the thing have nothing to do with it.
Frike: So are they just imitating Zeppelin or are they getting it right, the whole package with the risks as well as the noise and the strut?
Plant: The Mission are getting it right to me. The Sisters of Mercy too. They’re trying it, and they mean it. It’s not just a parody of a pastiche of a parody. If they nick a few chord shapes, that’s okay. But at least they’re doing it in the spirit of it. I prefer that to the pretty-boy-wailing department.
― saddest kamancheh (bendy), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
Didn't Plant also refer to David Coverdale as "David CoverVersion" around that time?
― The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
Kingdom Come was nicknamed Kingdom Clone, iirc.
Said it before, but the best Zep imitator was Billy Squier, but he never gets dismissed outright, because he and his songs were good.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
Yes, as a novice to hard rock radio circa 1981, I thought "My Kinda Lover" and "In the Dark" were LZ songs, as "Fool in the Rain" and "All of My Love" were still in very heavy rotation at the time.
― saddest kamancheh (bendy), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link
John Paul Jones was asked on MTV around 1989 or so about Kingdom Come and other bands who claimed a Zep influence. He said that these bands' rhythm sections were all (in his words) "BOOM. BASH. BOOM. BASH." He stressed that he and Bonham were James Brown fanatics, and that that element was completely missed/missing from the new bands' approach.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link
Wow that anyone heard Bon Jovi as a Led Zeppelin reincarnation at any point!
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link
I love posting this, because this Squier is the best Zep rip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKlu3A3BBgE
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
Shit, now I'm gonna spend the afternoon listening to the first four Squier albums. (Until today, I thought he was Canadian for some reason.)
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link
Billy Squier rules
also, like Zeppelin (When the Levee Breaks) also was funky enough to have an iconic hip hop breakbeat (The Big Beat), more popular than Zep's
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link
RS review: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/review-greta-van-fleet-and-the-struts-revel-in-the-reliable-power-of-classic-rock-744694/
― a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link
Greta Van Fleet seem like they lept fully-formed from the skull of a rock critic in 1975. Three brothers and a bud from a tourist town near Saginaw, Michigan, they come bearing shamelessly recycled Zeppelin-isms with a frontman who seems to have heard Rush’s “2112” a few times.
lol contemporary critics HATED Zep
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link
I don't really care about this band one way or another but I am a bit surprised at their ubiquity - my wife reported seeing them on the in-store media system at Target yesterday
Waiting for a review that doesn't name their hometown.
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link
in 7th grade I tried to do a history fair project about Led Zeppelin
this owns
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link
did their dad play them Stooges or MC5 records? Seger? the Gories? Furthermore, I want to know what exactly constitutes the hollow, manufactured crap that their courageous, authentic music is the corrective to.
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link
I assume everything else on their label: http://www.republicrecords.com/artists
― a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link
('Cept maybe Jack Johnson, John Mellencamp, Pearl Jam, and ZZ Top?)
― a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 23:10 (five years ago) link
Hold on a second, these guys are 16-18 years old??? That puts a whole different spin on the Pitchfork trashing and everything else.
― timellison, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 23:31 (five years ago) link
OK, I had the dates wrong. Looks like they are currently about 19-21 years old.
― timellison, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 23:32 (five years ago) link
xp That Billy Squier song played in my head several times in the past 2-3 days after skimming thru the p4k & ringer articles and imagining GVF sounding this way, but also I mistakenly forgot that it's not a Led Zep track.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 25 October 2018 00:05 (five years ago) link
Listened to their first album on the way home and noticed a part of one solo that quoted Page from rock and roll, and the opening of another track that sounded like the opening of Candy Store Rock. But melodically the songs didn’t grab me.
― calstars, Thursday, 25 October 2018 00:23 (five years ago) link
whatever their age they should be tried as adults
― omar little, Thursday, 25 October 2018 00:26 (five years ago) link
LMAO
― a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Thursday, 25 October 2018 00:43 (five years ago) link
I had two weeks in September where I just played either Achilles or In My Time of Dying on repeat for my entire commute.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive
yeah i have a ten minute commute too
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Thursday, 25 October 2018 01:04 (five years ago) link
I'm more than a little surprised that the Pitchfork review of the album didn't come up here (though maybe it did elsewhere on ILM).
It's been highly publicized though among the rock critic intelligentsia on my Facebook feed, the commentary has been less about white knighting the record as much as rolling eyes at Pitchfork (which to be fair is just as much of a tradition as ripping off Led Zeppelin) for complaints about the "streaming and algorithm economy" as well as genuine surprise at a negative review of anything.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link
"genuine surprise at a negative review of anything"
y'all know that ed sheeran got a 3 or whatever last year right
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
and charlie puth earned a 2.6 two years ago
wow how surprising they published a takedown of a popular group
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link
It was discussed a lot on "What Is Rockism?".
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link
yeah the algo streaming economy angle was imo the most predictable rmde aspect of the piece, 'oh of course this review is an excuse for a Point about spotify'
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link
xpost Greta Van Fleet thread sounds EXACTLY like What is Rockism? thread
― President Keyes, Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
To me they sound like Rush before Neil arrived, though there's nothing as strong as Working Man.
― dinnerboat, Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
If it pushes some Lumineers and Avett Brothers out of the background music at Starbucks and supermarkets, I'm for it.
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
y'all know that ed sheeran got a 3 or whatever last year rightand charlie puth earned a 2.6 two years ago
But thanks for pointing out that one negative review a year can be expected. Glad GVF got the 2018 entry out of the way.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link
Joe Bonamassa is somewhere crying on a pile of '58 Goldtops.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 23:29 (ten months ago) link
Yeah, they’re fun to make fun of, but seem to be okay people
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 23:50 (ten months ago) link
more women under 30 than men over 40 is not something i would have guessed
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 July 2023 00:09 (ten months ago) link
XP The GVF guitar guy can be a bit insufferable in interviews
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 20 July 2023 00:43 (ten months ago) link
led zeppelin clone band: mr. yuk faceled zeppelin clone band but none of them are loathsome human beings like jimmy page: interested head tilt
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 20 July 2023 15:50 (ten months ago) link
I just visited JPC.de and was confronted with this publicity shot:
https://www.jpc.de/tools/cmsimage.php?id=1254278&size=w980ct
Guy on the left looks strikingly like the guy on the left from Army of Lovers:
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F65%2Fe5%2Fc9%2F65e5c9b9f75d67654380a8b2502bec9a.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=c0113de63c7252a0131610c0a9df9422020e0d832f3c7bd9772970ce2abb807a&ipo=images
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 3 August 2023 05:17 (nine months ago) link
Love to play this game on the train where I guess what concert I’m the city are all these people going to. Should have got this one cuz they all look like they are in the band.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:07 (eight months ago) link
I really can't particularly hate or like these guys, it just feels like they're never quite sure why they're doing what they're doing - musically, performatively, and in that publicity shot. What are they going for? How does it fit into the band's ethos? Does the band have an ethos?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:00 (eight months ago) link
Like they have the received trappings of decadence, but they don't actually seem decadent? They're like an America's Got Talent act.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:02 (eight months ago) link
Yeah my impression of seeing a live video was 'sexless.' Led Zeppelin 1970 but all wearing purity rings.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:11 (eight months ago) link
Hopefully that means they’ll be less likely to reproduce.
― The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 04:23 (eight months ago) link
so we were going to get food at Welcome to Rockville and were between sets and we wanted to get one of the Metallica Blackened burgers, and as we're walking over there, I heard this vocalist doing this weird Edith Bunker screech and was like "are they singing a joke song?" and then the instruments got louder and I realized that it was GVF. and the line to get the burger lasted 45 minutes.
I just can't with Josh's voice. somehow i feel like he's gotten worse. he just sings the highest note possible in the most shrill way possible all the time, and it sounds like...ok, so when my dad would make fun of something my mother said and would do a fake "mom" voice, that's what it sounded like.
the band itself sounded ok! like there was nothing real memorable but at least you know they acquitted themselves well, but gooood loooord I was way too sober to hear that. but the burger was good lol.
― RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 May 2024 14:21 (two weeks ago) link