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"growing out of music" = dud

― flappy bird, Tuesday, October 23, 2018 8:31 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Au contraire, growing out of music is classic. You grow (older), and don off music you once loved and that once helped you, because it does not do anything for you anymore in the present, for the new/'grown' you. You can still retain a great deal of respect for the music that served your dire needs once, but have grown out of it all the same. Classic all the way.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:27 (seven years ago)

Perspective certainly changes, but what I enjoyed about those songs and albums then and now is their sound. Revisiting something like Picaresque years later was a joy, a nostalgic indulgence for sure, but I don't like it any less. I don't think that's the same as "outgrowing" it. Same goes for all the ear candy on MTV in the late 90s and early/mid-00s.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:30 (seven years ago)

We're on the verge of going into semantics here; I agree with what you said. Nostalgic indulgence isn't outgrowing it, 'tistrue.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:33 (seven years ago)

yeah, and I suppose the fact that I don't listen to them much at all anymore - unlike other childhood favorites like Green Day, Nirvana, Pumpkins, Beatles - is outgrowing in a sense.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:38 (seven years ago)

It'll always look weird to me to see a dude with a full head of gray hair donning a Vandals t-shirt and a chain wallet. Like, your daughter just graduated college, man, buy a friggin' Brubeck record and go pick out some curtains fer chrissakes

but I realize I'm just being judgmental; this is a new frontier and we shall soon witness nursing homes full of goths, white gangstas, and dreadlocked crust punks, and that's gonna be wild, my friends

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:39 (seven years ago)

I was at Gilman St last year for a Lookout Records anniversary thing (my cousin was in town for it) and... it was pretty strange for just those reasons

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:43 (seven years ago)

"growing out of music" = dud

― flappy bird

for a long time in my life i didn't "grow out of" music, didn't particularly want to. last couple of years i've changed enough that i've stopped really liking some music i used to like - primarily frank zappa and magma. i can see what i liked about them, but i just don't enjoy listening to it much. gotta let go of the past sometimes, man.

dub pilates (rushomancy), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 00:12 (seven years ago)

For me, it's less about growing out of music, and more about having listened to certain things so many times that I can immediately recall them completely, so I feel like I just dont need to listen to them again. I'd rather spend my time listening to something I haven't completely wrapped my head around yet.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 01:37 (seven years ago)

does anyone feel like every time they revisit something, it's like they didn't "get it" in the first place? i'm constantly re-getting everything, with the caveat that i'm not really getting it because i'm going to re-get it again. it can be a little exhausting. i think that's part of the reason why i don't listen to more music than i do.

macropuente (map), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 04:04 (seven years ago)

"Growing out of music" is like growing out of the stuff that taught you reading comprehension, or taught you emotional resilience or whatever. It becomes part of you even if you don't feel the need to digest it again on the same terms that it was once digested

fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 06:03 (seven years ago)

Age 13, I was dragged by my love of The Police into loving the first solo record by Sting. I have no wish to ever hear this record again and I don’t think I am diminished by that.
On the other hand I listened daily to Tusk from the age of 9 and would still happily do that. I’d hate to grow out of that music.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 06:27 (seven years ago)

growth as expansion vs growth as refinement. I don't think liking as much as possible is the goal, but I do think being able to suspend whatever you think your needs are and being open to the unknown is an essential part of growth

ogmor, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 07:57 (seven years ago)

does anyone feel like every time they revisit something, it's like they didn't "get it" in the first place? i'm constantly re-getting everything, with the caveat that i'm not really getting it because i'm going to re-get it again. it can be a little exhausting. i think that's part of the reason why i don't listen to more music than i do.

― macropuente (map), Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:04 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have this too but I find it more invigorating than exhausting. I will admit that the constant access to every piece of music ever made can be a tad wearying, but that isn't the same thing

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 10:34 (seven years ago)

Are we doing new releases? I don't understand why Marie Davidson gets a pass on that opening track from her new album. I thought it was so dumb.

ninthyoung, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 11:30 (seven years ago)

growth as expansion vs growth as refinement. I don't think liking as much as possible is the goal, but I do think being able to suspend whatever you think your needs are and being open to the unknown is an essential part of growth

― ogmor, Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:57 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm i think

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 12:00 (seven years ago)

EBows are corny

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 12:55 (seven years ago)

:(

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 13:00 (seven years ago)

they can be, yeah, but they can also be cool!

akm, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 13:06 (seven years ago)

Husker Du's "The Baby Song" is fun and funny.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:03 (seven years ago)

EBows are corny

― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, October 24, 2018 7:55 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

FP!!!

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:05 (seven years ago)

I don't know if this is for here or the rockism thread but I was being given a lift and the Ariana Grande song Breathin' came on the radio and it sounded like absolute crap and it almost felt good to hate a pop song by an ILM-approved artist again. But then again, car speakers

imago, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:34 (seven years ago)

Greta Van Fleet are fine.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 18:18 (seven years ago)

that ogmor post is super cool

macropuente (map), Thursday, 25 October 2018 04:01 (seven years ago)

i think i'm only open to the unknown like .. once a month though lol

macropuente (map), Thursday, 25 October 2018 04:02 (seven years ago)

does anyone feel like every time they revisit something, it's like they didn't "get it" in the first place? i'm constantly re-getting everything, with the caveat that i'm not really getting it because i'm going to re-get it again. it can be a little exhausting. i think that's part of the reason why i don't listen to more music than i do.

― macropuente (map), Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:04 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. and it's like.., why didn't i just cut to the chase and like this the first time around? especially after loudly proclaiming ur dislike of something, to revisit it and instantly see how wrong u were lol

flopson, Thursday, 25 October 2018 05:59 (seven years ago)

Nina Simone's music is astonishingly uninspired given the critical arselicking she gets.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 25 October 2018 13:15 (seven years ago)

Go listen to Nina Simone at Newport and then try to post that with a straight face

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 25 October 2018 13:21 (seven years ago)

Nah, I've had enough.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 25 October 2018 13:56 (seven years ago)

quoth inspiration connoisseur 'jon123'

ogmor, Thursday, 25 October 2018 14:09 (seven years ago)

Music is shit

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:55 (seven years ago)

i love it

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:58 (seven years ago)

I imagine this is less controversial round here, but in everyday life my stance that Queen were utterly shit in so many ways seems to really bother people

boxedjoy, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:03 (seven years ago)

Queen suck, you are otm

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:04 (seven years ago)

you gonna catch the biopic?

greta van vliet (morrisp), Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:09 (seven years ago)

Haha its the biopic thats made it such a hot topic. People think that because I'm a gay man and I love music that I must be into Queen and the disbelief I've been met with when I say that I find their music wholly unpleasant has been really... well, unsurprising because Queen are considered icond etc but really they are just awful arent they

boxedjoy, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:13 (seven years ago)

biopics = also awful

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:13 (seven years ago)

the only way that film could be any more unappealing was if Bradley Cooper was playing Freddie Mercury

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:14 (seven years ago)

Queen are fucking garbage. I totally don't get it. (I also don't get the appeal of Roxy Music or T. Rex - or glam in general. There's this whole musical-theater-kid side of early 70s British rock that's completely fucking baffling to me.)

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:24 (seven years ago)

I think it's pretty "funny" for anyone to assume that a gay, music-loving man must be into Queen

greta van vliet (morrisp), Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:29 (seven years ago)

the only way that film could be any more unappealing was if Bradley Cooper was playing Freddie Mercury

Or Sasha Baron Cohen.

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:30 (seven years ago)

Lol yes

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:31 (seven years ago)

Never really connected with Queen either, though I acknowledge that 1) Freddie is a talented singer--whatever that means, and 2) Brian May has a very distinctive (and cool) guitar tone. But yeah, I don't ever really want to listen to Queen.

But I hated Kiss for like thirty years and now I don't so maybe a day will come when it clicks, who knows

Roxy Music is great though

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:59 (seven years ago)

Paul OTM re: Queen

greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 26 October 2018 00:02 (seven years ago)

I like their hits, can't really be bothered to dig further.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 26 October 2018 00:05 (seven years ago)

Lol KISS also totally terrible

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 00:12 (seven years ago)

otm. and it's like.., why didn't i just cut to the chase and like this the first time around? especially after loudly proclaiming ur dislike of something, to revisit it and instantly see how wrong u were lol

I actually really enjoy this process. I mean I feel stupid if I've been all "that sucks!" about something I end up loving but the whole process of being irritated by something / leaning in closer / learning that the irritation was...something different maybe? this is intensely interesting to me in how I approach music

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 26 October 2018 00:13 (seven years ago)

I don’t like Queen at all, but also think Mercury is one of the most overrated singers in history. He reminds me of what one of Freddie Hubbard’s contemporaries said of Hubbard’s playing: “It’s the Rolls-Royce aesthetic without the Rolls-Royce.”

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 26 October 2018 01:41 (seven years ago)

He reminds me of what one of Freddie Hubbard’s contemporaries said of Hubbard’s playing: “It’s the Rolls-Royce aesthetic without the Rolls-Royce.”

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat)

that sounds like a compliment to me!

dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 26 October 2018 02:11 (seven years ago)

I quite enjoy some Queen tunes. But as shallow as this sounds, the trailer for Bohemian Rhapsody that I seem to be unable to avoid has put me off wanting to associate with them for a good couple of years.

triggercut, Friday, 26 October 2018 11:07 (seven years ago)

It should put you off because the movie is terrible.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2018 11:13 (seven years ago)


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