Is Bob Dylan overrated?

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THE ORIGINAL IS BACK! That's some "A New Hope Restored Without the Late-90s CGI" fan-dream shizz

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:26 (seven years ago)

Shakey, Alfred - I can't believe you don't love this album! Aside from "Is Your Love in Vain?" (one weak track, smack in the middle), this is such a hott LP.

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:32 (seven years ago)

lucky for everyone because original vinyl of Street Legal isn't exactly in every single record store of all time

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:32 (seven years ago)

http://www.45worlds.com/vinyl/image/030/thumb/bob-dylan-jc-35453-2-ab-t.jpg

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:36 (seven years ago)

my feelings about Street Legal are well documented on the Street Legal thread.

which at least produced the LEGAL HASSLE Dylan/Reed mashup joke

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:37 (seven years ago)

Well the last thing I remember before I stripped & kneeled
Was a trainload of fools bogged down in a magnetic field

Fuck yeah!!!

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:41 (seven years ago)

Shakey, Alfred - I can't believe you don't love this album! Aside from "Is Your Love in Vain?" (one weak track, smack in the middle), this is such a hott LP.

― brush ’em like crazy (morrisp),

The writing is windy self-parody in a lot of places even on songs I like ("Senor"). "Where Are You Tonight (Journey Through Dark Heat)" is "Like a Rolling Stone" extended to crackpot length.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:45 (seven years ago)

Well the last thing I remember before I stripped & kneeled
Was a trainload of fools bogged down in a magnetic field

This is what I meant by a Dylan imitator.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:45 (seven years ago)

"I fought with my twin/My enemy within," undergirded by bongos, is my idea of Dylan hell.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:45 (seven years ago)

Damn, this is prime-era Dylan for me.

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:49 (seven years ago)

"If you don't believe there's a price for this sweet paradise / Remind me to show you the scars"

!!!???

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:50 (seven years ago)

that's good

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:51 (seven years ago)

get ready for my hot take

Bob Dylen suxxxxxxx

vanjie wail (qiqing), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:52 (seven years ago)

unless you can cook up a hot take on Froggy Goes a Courtin

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:30 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbh my memory is that i kinda like his version of froggy goes a courtin!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 21:52 (seven years ago)

RENEGADE PRIESTS

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:03 (seven years ago)

+1000

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:05 (seven years ago)

I have a memory of a conversation with difficult listening hour in which we treated every sentence as a line from "Changing of the Guards."

"I need a beer"

I NEED. A. BEER.

"I think we need to take this right."

TAKE. THIS. RIGHT.

anyway

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:09 (seven years ago)

Like regardless of whether this song is "imitation Dylan" or not, the whole lyric is so excellent to me - https://www.bobdylan.com/songs/where-are-you-tonight-journey-through-dark-heat/

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:11 (seven years ago)

I can’t believe it, I can’t believe I’m alive!!

...But without you, it doesn't seem right

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:14 (seven years ago)

Now I've moved on to Saved; pounding air piano at my desk

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:23 (seven years ago)

now *that's* a good record

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:25 (seven years ago)

PRESSIN ON

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:25 (seven years ago)

Ok there’s definitely more than one weak track on Street Legal. I really like “Where Are You Tonight” though (and I’m pretty sure it’s shorter than “Like a Rolling Stone”).

JoeStork, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:30 (seven years ago)

Christ, “No Time to Think” is interminable before the first verse ends.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:45 (seven years ago)

"Is Your Love in Vain" is a classic example of interminable misogynist groaning.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:47 (seven years ago)

DO YOU UUUNDERSTAAAHHND MAH PAAAAIIINN

All too well, you self-pitying bimbo

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:48 (seven years ago)

I have dined with kings, I’ve been offered wings
And I’ve never been too impressed

has always reminded me of:

I've been undressed by kings
And I've seen some things that a woman ain't supposed to see

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:51 (seven years ago)

(I agree this one track is dudsville)

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:51 (seven years ago)

I have dined with kings, I’ve been offered wings

from Hooters?

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:52 (seven years ago)

😂

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:54 (seven years ago)

Street Legal owns the zone

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 23:16 (seven years ago)

We have a pre-emptive Bob Dylan RIP thread

When Bob Dylan dies

ryan, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 23:22 (seven years ago)

Is that like "If Madonna Calls"?

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 23:25 (seven years ago)

My microwave macaroni take from the Dylan's Christian Periond thread (where I later noticed that Euler had made the same point about "Changing of the Guard" as symptom of desperation, brain train comin' to Jesus etc)
I finally listened to Street Legal: good singing (the choral group is used effectively, for the most part), good music (except for the drums); but lyrics incl. bubblin' toxic rainbow brain stew of homeless prophetic imagery and serenades which start suavely but quickly go so wrong ("Can ya cook and sew, make the flowers grow," he sounds like even he knows this is hopeless as soon as he hears it--and/or he already knew it, but it's still like, "No? Course not, but come 'ere and show me what you can do, then. Beech.") Performance-wise, the most successful (and stylistically, the most unusual here) is "New Pony," which morphs into bizarre bluesoid porn, though not in a good way (to my taste). Overall, sounds like he's really moving toward some desperate change.
(Before this album came out, Renaldo and Clara incl Dyl paying much attention as Ginsberg tells him about Jesus and the ladies---think some of this was from the Apocrypha, but some from the Protestant-approved Gospels).
Not that all the lyrics are bad, but this set incl. off-putting syndromes.
(?)

dow, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 01:47 (seven years ago)

A follow-up notebook note re S L:
Music has he been listening to early-mid 70s Van Morrison’s Caledonia Soul Orch, pre-disco Boz, Robertson’s production of (or other) Neil Diamond? But the scuzziest, deadest, mildewed bottom of the barrel drums--ever. Dunno which mix I heard, came across it on YouTube, soon taken down by Web Sheriff.

dow, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 01:58 (seven years ago)

Eleanor Friedberger recorded a cool cover of “True Love Tends to Forget.” And Will Oldham covered “Señor.” If you’re into those artists.

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 02:26 (seven years ago)

This weekend in Hell is making me sweat, y’all

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 02:30 (seven years ago)

MAKING. ME. SWEAT.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 02:34 (seven years ago)

Street Legal is probably a bit overrated at this point, but New Pony rules

supposedly there's a screenplay some guy in the 70s wrote for Lily Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts.

haha this sounds so bad

niels, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 06:30 (seven years ago)

Real Dylan Hot Take Heads Know Under The Red Sky Is Where It's At!

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 06:44 (seven years ago)

rarely has such an all star cast produced such an unmemorable record (thread idea?)

the Bootleg vol 8 version of Born in Time is great

niels, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 06:49 (seven years ago)

Oldham covered New Pony live too
He's part of #TeamStreetLegal

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 12:38 (seven years ago)

UTRS >>>>>> Street-Legal

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:07 (seven years ago)

I saw Dylan live a few weeks after UTRS came out and he played NOTHING from that album

President Keyes, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:45 (seven years ago)

Street Legal is probably a bit overrated at this point, but New Pony rules

Overrated by whom? Most ppl on this thread don’t even seem to like it!

If any Dylan album is “overrated,” it’s Desire, IMO

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:02 (seven years ago)

at least this revive led me to make a playlist of 80s Dylan albums, most of which I haven't heard for 25 years

President Keyes, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:05 (seven years ago)

I saw Dylan live a few weeks after UTRS came out and he played NOTHING from that album

lol, I seem to recall a lot of press flown in for a UK concert shortly after the release of Together Through Life, no songs from that album on the setlist

niels, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:05 (seven years ago)

There’s a good Willie Nelson cover of Senor on the I’m Not There soundtrack.

o. nate, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:26 (seven years ago)

UTRS >>>>>> Street-Legal

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a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:29 (seven years ago)

"Wiggle Wiggle," like The Police's "De Doo Doo Doo...," mocks the singer's own obsession with fussy lyrics.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:31 (seven years ago)


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