Is Bob Dylan overrated?

i'm gonna post and tweet so much it's gonna be insane

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:05 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Me2. I will be more insufferable than I was when Bowie died

is preferring the 1999 street legal mix a hot take? i prefer it.

I bought it years ago and promptly returned it. Maybe I'd like it more now, I dunno. The version on Spotify seems to be OG mix?

Oh dear. I didn't realise there was a Street Legal mix beef. No idea which side I'm on....

The original mix is a horror; the 1999 mix improved it vastly. It's still not a great album (I'm fine with okay).

God, I love the Dylan thing of putting a 12-bar blues song as track #2 on an LP.

I've an old vinyl edition and the 2003 reissue. Is the latter the remix?

HOW MUCH
HOW MUCH

feel like ILM is full of hot takes on Street Legal tbh

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:29 PM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sorry Street Legal is good is canon now

fine, then my hot take is that it is actually terrible

The 2003 SACD reissue is indeed the remix. Tho according to da Wiki - "In 2014, as part of The Complete Album Collection Vol. 1, Street-Legal was again remastered, but restored to its original 1978 Stan Kalina LP mix."

THE ORIGINAL IS BACK! That's some "A New Hope Restored Without the Late-90s CGI" fan-dream shizz

Shakey, Alfred - I can't believe you don't love this album! Aside from "Is Your Love in Vain?" (one weak track, smack in the middle), this is such a hott LP.

lucky for everyone because original vinyl of Street Legal isn't exactly in every single record store of all time

http://www.45worlds.com/vinyl/image/030/thumb/bob-dylan-jc-35453-2-ab-t.jpg

my feelings about Street Legal are well documented on the Street Legal thread.

which at least produced the LEGAL HASSLE Dylan/Reed mashup joke

Well the last thing I remember before I stripped & kneeled
Was a trainload of fools bogged down in a magnetic field

Fuck yeah!!!

Shakey, Alfred - I can't believe you don't love this album! Aside from "Is Your Love in Vain?" (one weak track, smack in the middle), this is such a hott LP.

― brush ’em like crazy (morrisp),

The writing is windy self-parody in a lot of places even on songs I like ("Senor"). "Where Are You Tonight (Journey Through Dark Heat)" is "Like a Rolling Stone" extended to crackpot length.

Well the last thing I remember before I stripped & kneeled
Was a trainload of fools bogged down in a magnetic field

This is what I meant by a Dylan imitator.

"I fought with my twin/My enemy within," undergirded by bongos, is my idea of Dylan hell.

Damn, this is prime-era Dylan for me.

"If you don't believe there's a price for this sweet paradise / Remind me to show you the scars"

!!!???

that's good

get ready for my hot take

Bob Dylen suxxxxxxx

unless you can cook up a hot take on Froggy Goes a Courtin

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:30 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbh my memory is that i kinda like his version of froggy goes a courtin!

RENEGADE PRIESTS

+1000

I have a memory of a conversation with difficult listening hour in which we treated every sentence as a line from "Changing of the Guards."

"I need a beer"

I NEED. A. BEER.

"I think we need to take this right."

TAKE. THIS. RIGHT.

anyway

Like regardless of whether this song is "imitation Dylan" or not, the whole lyric is so excellent to me - https://www.bobdylan.com/songs/where-are-you-tonight-journey-through-dark-heat/

I can’t believe it, I can’t believe I’m alive!!

...But without you, it doesn't seem right

Now I've moved on to Saved; pounding air piano at my desk

now *that's* a good record

PRESSIN ON

Ok there’s definitely more than one weak track on Street Legal. I really like “Where Are You Tonight” though (and I’m pretty sure it’s shorter than “Like a Rolling Stone”).

Christ, “No Time to Think” is interminable before the first verse ends.

"Is Your Love in Vain" is a classic example of interminable misogynist groaning.

DO YOU UUUNDERSTAAAHHND MAH PAAAAIIINN

All too well, you self-pitying bimbo

I have dined with kings, I’ve been offered wings
And I’ve never been too impressed

has always reminded me of:

I've been undressed by kings
And I've seen some things that a woman ain't supposed to see

(I agree this one track is dudsville)

I have dined with kings, I’ve been offered wings

from Hooters?

😂

Street Legal owns the zone

We have a pre-emptive Bob Dylan RIP thread

When Bob Dylan dies

Is that like "If Madonna Calls"?

My microwave macaroni take from the Dylan's Christian Periond thread (where I later noticed that Euler had made the same point about "Changing of the Guard" as symptom of desperation, brain train comin' to Jesus etc)
I finally listened to Street Legal: good singing (the choral group is used effectively, for the most part), good music (except for the drums); but lyrics incl. bubblin' toxic rainbow brain stew of homeless prophetic imagery and serenades which start suavely but quickly go so wrong ("Can ya cook and sew, make the flowers grow," he sounds like even he knows this is hopeless as soon as he hears it--and/or he already knew it, but it's still like, "No? Course not, but come 'ere and show me what you can do, then. Beech.") Performance-wise, the most successful (and stylistically, the most unusual here) is "New Pony," which morphs into bizarre bluesoid porn, though not in a good way (to my taste). Overall, sounds like he's really moving toward some desperate change.
(Before this album came out, Renaldo and Clara incl Dyl paying much attention as Ginsberg tells him about Jesus and the ladies---think some of this was from the Apocrypha, but some from the Protestant-approved Gospels).
Not that all the lyrics are bad, but this set incl. off-putting syndromes.(?)

A follow-up notebook note re S L:
Music has he been listening to early-mid 70s Van Morrison’s Caledonia Soul Orch, pre-disco Boz, Robertson’s production of (or other) Neil Diamond? But the scuzziest, deadest, mildewed bottom of the barrel drums--ever. Dunno which mix I heard, came across it on YouTube, soon taken down by Web Sheriff.

Eleanor Friedberger recorded a cool cover of “True Love Tends to Forget.” And Will Oldham covered “Señor.” If you’re into those artists.

This weekend in Hell is making me sweat, y’all

MAKING. ME. SWEAT.

Street Legal is probably a bit overrated at this point, but New Pony rules

supposedly there's a screenplay some guy in the 70s wrote for Lily Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts.

haha this sounds so bad