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don't think it's a particularly controversial stance though

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:10 (seven years ago)

I Gotta Feeling gets played on regular rotation at the commercial radio station I work for. Even on Monday mornings(!)

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:17 (seven years ago)

(Other future classics: Chainsmokers - "Closer", Imagine Dragons - "Thunder". I hate "I Gotta Feeling" but you're probably right about it.)

I also hate "I Gotta Feeling" but I'd take it over the other two in a heartbeat

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:18 (seven years ago)

i gotta feeling already has 'classic' status yeah and im way more sympathetic to it than i was when it came out, though its still not great

i could imagine closer having that sort of status in the future (ugh) but i really doubt imagine dragons will be strongly remembered

ufo, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)

Ambient music is the only worthwhile music

― groovemaaan, Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:55 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

been feeling this a lot lately too lol

― marcos, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 9:47 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Counterpoint: given the advances in recording technology, it is almost impossible to tell a classic 'ambient' piece by one of the greats from something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals, and people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:39 (seven years ago)

Lingua Ignota's All Bitches Die

This is indeed an amazing album and everyone should hear it

jmm, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:43 (seven years ago)

Well so maybe I should be clear that my controversial opinion isn't a grudging "I guess it's settled, this song is not going to be forgotten, people are going to like it forever" but rather "this song is a towering achievement that will stand the test of time because it's such an unimpeachable banger"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:55 (seven years ago)

I also love Boom Boom Pow and Imma Bee.

how's life, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:55 (seven years ago)

Counterpoint: given the advances in recording technology, it is almost impossible to tell a classic 'ambient' piece by one of the greats from something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals, and people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 11:39 AM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imo the difference doesn't matter. who gives a shit

marcos, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:55 (seven years ago)

This is indeed an amazing album and everyone should hear it

― jmm

everyone should also be smacked in the face with a rusty shovel

dub pilates (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:58 (seven years ago)

Thunder wont make the cut even 5 years from now, it’s not a good party song. I’ll up the bet, as someone living in latinamerica we have 10+ hour weddings over here and you can tell which english-spoken songs will be classics if they get played over here. If they make it out of the US/UK they have trascended language and will probably become classics. Small caveat: there needs to be a break from listening the song for a couple of years. Despacito and Shape of You made it all around the q

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:58 (seven years ago)

/Ambient music is the only worthwhile music

― groovemaaan, Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:55 PM (five days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

been feeling this a lot lately too lol

― marcos, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 9:47 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink/

Counterpoint: given the advances in recording technology, it is almost impossible to tell a classic 'ambient' piece by one of the greats from something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals, and people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying


Counterpoint to your counterpoint: A lot of the greats were probably coming from the same spiritual place as stoners with (fill in cheap gear here). Barrier to entry may be low, but good ambient and drone is hard to make.

Discerning listeners should be able to tell good from bad, no matter what gear is being used.

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beard papa, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:58 (seven years ago)

... all around the globe but noone wants to listen to them ever again in any type of party until 2025 probably

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:59 (seven years ago)

Counterpoint: given the advances in recording technology, it is almost impossible to tell a classic 'ambient' piece by one of the greats from something a stoned guy does in an afternoon with a polysynth and some guitar pedals, and people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:39 AM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

counterpoint: who gives a shiiiiit

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:00 (seven years ago)

Songs can become well-remembered classics for reasons other than being good party/wedding songs.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:03 (seven years ago)

Also, Moka, iirc you didn't think "More Than a Feeling" was as popular as the Outfield's "Your Love" so idk if I'm taking your bet.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:04 (seven years ago)

All that said, I'm posting controversial opinions, not making thoughtfully considered predictions.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:06 (seven years ago)

Blue
Hejira
The Hissing of Summer Lawns

if I go to hell, this is the soundtrack

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:09 (seven years ago)

In regards to the comments above, ambient (and noise) are definitely the "are you kidding me? my kid can do this!" of music

Evan, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:12 (seven years ago)

Yeah, ambient music is almost always worthless

imago, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:15 (seven years ago)

^ This is not my point

Evan, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:16 (seven years ago)

It was mine! This is the thread for it after all

imago, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:18 (seven years ago)

late period scott walker is utter wank (drift onwards)

ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:19 (seven years ago)

Just clarifying since you said "yeah" after my post

xp

Evan, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:20 (seven years ago)

late period scott walker is utter wank (drift onwards)

― ritual showdown (Ross)

every period Scott Walker

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)

yeah!

calzino, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:22 (seven years ago)

morelike Scott Wankyr!

calzino, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:25 (seven years ago)

In regards to the comments above, ambient (and noise) are definitely the "are you kidding me? my kid can do this!" of music

― Evan, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 12:12 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and in most cases, the people saying that would be correct

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:26 (seven years ago)

imago really is our resident maximalist.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:27 (seven years ago)

late period scott walker is utter wank (drift onwards)

― ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:19 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Walker finally got good with The Drift and Bish-Bosch is his best album

obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:29 (seven years ago)

pish-posh

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:30 (seven years ago)

and in most cases, the people saying that would be correct

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 12:26 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah but it's irrelevant; technical proficiency has nothing to do with measuring the quality of experimental music

Evan, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:42 (seven years ago)

guitar tablature and sheet music should be revamped, with all solos written only in variations of the words "meedly", "moodly", "weelity-weelity" or "rawwwwwwwronnnnnnnn"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:26 (seven years ago)

guitar tablature and sheet music should be revamped, with all solos written only in variations of the words "meedly", "moodly", "weelity-weelity" or "rawwwwwwwronnnnnnnn"

― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal)

the "tight bros from way back" book of guitar tab

dub pilates (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:44 (seven years ago)

people who claim they can tell the difference are often lying

Strawmanning?

timellison, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:48 (seven years ago)

Yeah, ambient music is almost always worthless

― imago, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:15 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why? (genuine question)

groovemaaan, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:49 (seven years ago)

wrong thread probably, but oh well

groovemaaan, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)

again, "my kids could do this" who gives a shit?

marcos, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:59 (seven years ago)

i honestly don't care if a "classic ambient master" lol or a stoner or a kid made something if i find it intriguing. can't believe people look to ambient music for mad musician chops

marcos, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)

I want the music I listen to for leveling out while I smoke a bowl to be composed by someone at least at Steve Howe level!

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:01 (seven years ago)

"I can play Timbaland beats on my CASIO"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:01 (seven years ago)

Ambient music is ridiculous. It will never be as good as the sound of nature. Like leaves in the wind, the birds and the singing frogs.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:04 (seven years ago)

better be virtuoso frogs motherfucker

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:06 (seven years ago)

my kid could croak!

wait

Evan, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:09 (seven years ago)

I can't imagine, with a finite amount of time to spend on Earth, why anyone would want to own more than 5 ambient albums. I mean, if it's functional music, and the end result--relaxation, I presume--is identical regardless of the artist, why not just listen to Hearts of Space if you need to chill? Why buy 180g vinyl pressings of near-static drones that all sound identical?

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)

tbf, I am not including RDJ, Froese, Roach, Eno, etc here. I could pick any of those out of a crowd (probably because they at least aspire to a level of artistry that distinguishes their music from their many imitators, plus, you know, actual melodies and ideas)

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:14 (seven years ago)

you could easily say the same thing about classic rock. "Why should I own anything more than Houses of the Holy, Boston, Master of Reality, Who's Next, Abbey Road, Aerosmith Rocks, etc."

flappy bird, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:14 (seven years ago)

People like that genre of music in the same way that people like any other genre of music.

And I would assume that few here want to read your bullying strawman characterizations.

timellison, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:15 (seven years ago)

oh dear I've struck a nerve on the "controversial music opinions" thread

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:16 (seven years ago)

there's a world of difference between Oval, Boards of Canada, RDJ, Stars of the Lid, Grouper, etc.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 18:16 (seven years ago)


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