Thanks!
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 24 September 2018 04:29 (five years ago) link
explain this to my black students though, who saw past the spectacle
what did/does the music mean to them?
― crüt, Monday, 24 September 2018 04:52 (five years ago) link
liberation
― groovemaaan, Monday, 24 September 2018 05:42 (five years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/aroom_temp/180407ahttps://soundcloud.com/papernoise/random-ringshttps://soundcloud.com/billygomberg/180125-last-from-brooklyn
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 24 September 2018 07:28 (five years ago) link
I think the thing with vinyl and with tapes is that the distortion and lack of clarity are part of the sound, sometimes cleaning up a recording means removing something that worked, whether the artist or producer intended it or not (the reverse is often the case too of course) and that is a creative decision on a case by case basis, you can't say "it's always bad" or "it's always good." Acts putting out tapes in 2018 are essentially putting a 1980s instagram filter on their music, I find it a bit silly, but it's their choice.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 24 September 2018 09:41 (five years ago) link
the song "feel it still" by portugal the man is a good song
It made my tracks ballot last year.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Monday, 24 September 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link
xps more specifically.
― crüt, Monday, 24 September 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link
jamie xx will never be respected by the culture he adores even though he deserves it
― ninthyoung, Monday, 24 September 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link
I think the thing with vinyl and with tapes is that the distortion and lack of clarity are part of the sound, sometimes cleaning up a recording means removing something that worked, whether the artist or producer intended it or not (the reverse is often the case too of course) and that is a creative decision on a case by case basis, you can't say "it's always bad" or "it's always good."
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 24 September 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
*especially with Normal bias (type i) tapes, which most people seem to be using
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 24 September 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link
of course, you can't monitor each/every dub, for a run of tapes.. but at least do it once, to set a general level just high enough so there won't be distortion / clipping, unless you wanted that effect. I have a Silver Jews 'Early Times' cassette from Drag City, and they did it right. 'Early Time's is sort of a meta- example, though
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 24 September 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link
I'm looking forward to this: https://deadoceans.com/news/ryley-walker-announces-the-lillywhite-sessions/
Because I think DMB has a lot of material that most people would like if it weren't being delivered by DMB.
― Evan, Monday, 24 September 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
oh i am super hyped for that surprise
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 24 September 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link
the "surf's up" album would've been better than "pet sounds" if it had been all wilson songs
― milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link
most cds sound better than most vinyl
― milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 01:47 (five years ago) link
Pet Sounds is overrated (we’ve had this discussion here)
― growing up in publix (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 01:50 (five years ago) link
(Beach Boys are great but Pet Sounds a flawed “go-to” album)
― growing up in publix (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 01:51 (five years ago) link
i agree with that
― Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 01:53 (five years ago) link
50s rock and roll all sounds thes ame
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 01:57 (five years ago) link
^this is kind of true, but it sounds gr8
― growing up in publix (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link
This is not even remotely controversial.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 09:17 (five years ago) link
The fact that Pet Sounds is the only especially celebrated BB album by the world at large (plus Smile if it counts) is completely absurd, when their run from Today to Holland is about as great as they come
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 10:12 (five years ago) link
THE RISE OF ALL CAPS IN TRACKS TITLES AND OTHER LANGUAGE IN MUSIC IS MOSTLY GOOD
― ogmor, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 10:15 (five years ago) link
Beach Boys' Party! is a neglected masterpiece
― Number None, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link
A rarified few believe that All Summer Long is where they hit their stride.
― how's life, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 11:20 (five years ago) link
pet sounds is their only consistently good album. the rest go off on weird, creepy, or just plain shit detours, and thus the rest of their albums are hard to recommend to an album-focused listener unless they're already a dyed-in-the-wool fan.
― milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 13:51 (five years ago) link
I think Beach Boys are well served by a Greatest Hits comp. I know there's a stack of them, but the 2003 Sounds of Summer compilation is probably the thing of theirs that I listen to the most.
― triggercut, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link
the rest go off on weird, creepy, or just plain shit detours
also true of every post-Help Beatles album tbf
― Number None, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link
This is not even remotely controversial.It was fairly controversial on that other thread! (Think it was something like, “Artists you’ve never been able to get into, despite trying multiple times.”)
― growing up in publix (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link
agreed re: bjork, also her songs are unlistenable― crüt, Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:18 AM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― crüt, Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:18 AM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
my brother
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link
Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower and Surf's Up are all extremely enjoyable albums with, at worst, one or two subpar tracks that I don't think would seriously ruin anyone's overall enjoyment of them. I'm sure even casual BB fans have listened to and enjoyed other albs that aren't flawless from soup to nuts and besides, weird/creepy is a pretty essential part of the overall BB aesthetic imho.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link
2000s and on Bjork voice is pretty off-putting yeah
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link
Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower and Surf's Up are all extremely enjoyable albums with, at worst, one or two subpar tracks
this is overly generous to Smiley Smile but agree about the others. Friends is super-short and every song is great, for ex.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link
agreed.
also, compact disc is the most enjoyable musical format overall
― silverfish, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link
xp lol i'm a big fan of Friends, but calling "Transcendental Meditation" great is a strech imo
― tylerw, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link
it'll get you feelin grand maaaan
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
There are definitely no dud tracks on "Smiley Smile", that's for sure.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
never forget
― ilxor-com-dog-meat-drawer-7-840-x-600.jpg (unregistered), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link
LOL, classic ILM.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link
I consider those threads my crowning achievement as an ILM poll starter
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
lol good stuff, in general i think more worst tracks threads would be good tbh
― sweetheart of the Neo Geo (Ross), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link
few acts' output span the dizzying highs and appalling lows of the Beach Boys tho
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
On the Corner >>>>>>>>>>> any Can album
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link
Not controversial imho.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link
Any Can album >>>>>>>>>>> On the Corner
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link
... maybe not, but "On the Corner" is hideously overrated.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
― flappy bird, Tuesday, September 25, 2018 6:16 PM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not controversial, just silly. Different ballgames, man.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link
A lot of Miles from that period does sound like Can, and vice versa, so it's not a different ballgame by any means.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
yeah there's a lot of similar techniques involved - extended ng groove-based improvisations, aggressive editing and electronic processing, incorporation of non-Western instrumentation
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link
Different strokes I guess. Similar techniques may be involved. MD and Can come from such different cores towards a somewhat similar sound at one point in time, but I cannot 'forget' the traveled trajectory, or their make-up, which is so vastly different. I can see why one sees it as the same ballgame - I might even be jealous of people seeing it that way, for I cannot.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link