Post a controversial music opinion

Hole were a better band than Nirvana and deserve the latter's place in The Canon(TM).

Most grunge was bad, and did music no favors.

otm

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the Beatles were good

At their best, Artery were better than Joy Division

Hole were a better band than Nirvana and deserve the latter's place in The Canon(TM).

Agree, but mostly due to Nirvana's staggering shittiness; Hole didn't actually get good until Celebrity Skin.

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The Pet Shop Boys should have hung it up after Very.

Tony Willé > Maurice Deebank

The vinyl LP, while a cooler artifact, is inferior to the CD as a music medium. (Cassette tapes have no excuse but borrowed nostalgia, but I hope that's not controversial.)

Blackheart is a cool album, but overall I think Dawn Richard's solo career has been overrated on here. The second Danity Kane album was her peak.

cassettes are fun to record on and for making mixtapes, but they are by far the worst medium for music listening

Cassettes are durable and had a portability function in the Walkman / car tape deck / boombox era, but there’s no reason for them now.

In their flawed fidelity, they do have their own distinctive sound and warmth + memory triggers for those of us of a certain age so I can get their appeal, within limits.

CDs or lossless digital are best for music with a wide dynamic range; that can't be controversial?

the qualities and character of tape are beautiful but it's easily the least practical way to listen to music compared to the other three dominant media (vinyl, streaming, CD's).

Yeah, convenience is definitely not one of the benefits of cassettes in the present day.

How is vinyl more convenient? Can't play an LP on a Walkman.

lossless digital is technically the better medium, assuming a good master. However mastering often ruins a lot of lossless releases, whether CD or web.

My controversial opinion: 154 > Chairs Missing

To me CDs are more consistent at sounding good. Vinyl is all over the place, sometimes sounding either far worse or far better than CDs.

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My controversial opinion: 154 > Chairs Missing

― octobeard, Sunday, 23 September 2018 21:49 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is correct, not controversial

the real talk: pink flag is at best wire's fourth-best album and it's probably lower

It might be correct or it might not be correct but it is controversial.

Not extremely controversial, of course!

"Pretty On The Inside" is an amazing album

Eddie Vedder has turned into a marvelous singer.

Read & Burn 01/Read & Burn 02/Send > Pink Flag/Chairs Missing/154

The first Read & Burn is one of my favorite albums/EPs/whatever of the '00s.

markos and crut otm

re grouper - great music for plane rides tho, easy to nod off to

"Send" is terrible though <---- adequately fulfilling the requirements of the thread title

yep

beyoncé's music imprisons minds & liberates no one

― crüt, Sunday, September 23, 2018 11:29 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I’ll up this one as this might be the right thread.

This shouldn’t be a controversial opinion. Beyonce’s grotesque transformation of real radicalism into a dep Fuck Beyonce and her imperialist elite pretensiousness. She’s not progressive, she’s a commodified caricature.

Sorry I erased a bit by mistake:

Beyonce’s grotesque transformation of real radicalist imagery and messages into de-politicized, mindless spectacle is what should spark controversy.

I really liked “a dep Fuck Beyoncé” tho

Read & Burn 01/Read & Burn 02/Send > Pink Flag/Chairs Missing/154

― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 23 September 2018 22:20 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kind of agree. send is one of the best albums of the last 20 years

Beyonce’s grotesque transformation of real radicalist imagery and messages into de-politicized, mindless spectacle is what should spark controversy.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, September 23, 2018

explain this to my black students though, who saw past the spectacle

What do you teach, Alfred?

After giving Chairs Missing and 154 proper listens in the past couple weeks... I’ve decided I really only care about Wire songs that sound like singles. Not that they’re a bad band or anything.

Edit... I listened to Pink Flag also

What do you teach, Alfred?

― growing up in publix (morrisp),

Journalism. Until last month I was the student media adviser for the student paper and radio station.

...too

The offspring had some amazing songs

Love "Gone Away"

A fantastic song. Maybe the offspring aren’t that low on the critic’s estimation— i always got the sense they were.

I like “the kids aren’t alright” and all the other songs rhey made that sound like that, like “you’re gonna go far kid”

Self esteem is catchy af

definitely cosign some of the offspring love

There's never been a Scottish music scene.

There's a UK scene which includes Scottish people, labels, cities, venues etc.

dude no

Tell your black students to watch Chappelle’s bit on celebrities:

https://youtu.be/H7b5hJ0G_9c

the song "feel it still" by portugal the man is a good song

The bulk of the amateur, modular enthusiast tracks (demos, sketches, full-on / fleshed out tracks) i've heard on Soundcloud are more enjoyable than most of the 'studio' songs that make up the proper releases I've listened to (so far) this year. Except maybe for the Beak, Aphex Twin, and xuiqen albums, and some albums on Another Timbre.

New vinyl records are a waste of money. Most tape releases sound like crap--why won't people use metal bias / type II tape cassettes, and put effort into improving the sound quality of their releases? Is it (putting out tapes) just for the sake of novelty? Notice Recordings (label) make good-sounding tapes, why won't others?