pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Yeah Tom Waits coolness stock is way down right now as far as I can see

Evan, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:29 (seven years ago)

Nice to see Music For The Masses sneak in a list for once.

Hounds Of Love was 92 lol in the previous 80s list.

piscesx, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:30 (seven years ago)

Hey, Don't Break the Oath got in. Guess I can't complain too much.

jmm, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:31 (seven years ago)

you know, I hate to nitpick, but goddamnit, the B-52's led the way for REM, not "alongside".

campreverb, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:31 (seven years ago)

it's all been downhill for waits since he had a song on the shrek 2 soundtrack

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:32 (seven years ago)

How come everyone outside of ILM thinks Blue Bell Knoll is the best 80s Cocteaus album? I honestly though we'd seen the back of such nonsense.

piscesx, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:33 (seven years ago)

part of it might be too that people caught on to waits essentially doing the exact same thing for 30 years

marcos, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:33 (seven years ago)

Hey, Don't Break the Oath got in. Guess I can't complain too much.

― jmm, Monday, September 10, 2018 7:31 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i was thrilled that all four of the metal records i voted for made it in (oath, to mega therion, altars of madness, streetcleaner)

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:33 (seven years ago)

Hey, Don't Break the Oath got in. Guess I can't complain too much.

― jmm, 10. september 2018 16:31 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah! Think it's the first Danish album to ever show up on one of these lists. Anne Linnet still got robbed, though.

Frederik B, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:34 (seven years ago)

xxp Blue Bell Knoll is the best CT album fyi

(best ct album still being debated as of last week on here, on some other thread)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:34 (seven years ago)

it's sort of shocking that Cocteau Twins and Kate Bush had that little indie rock coolness stock back in 2002 for Treasure and Hounds of Love to barely make the list then

ufo, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:37 (seven years ago)

biggest omission for me is lexicon of love

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:39 (seven years ago)

and dare

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:41 (seven years ago)

no chic? was hoping real people wld make it

lowercase (eric), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:44 (seven years ago)

I'm annoyed I wasn't asked cuz Dare would've been in my ten and I would've big upped The Glow of Love

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:45 (seven years ago)

biggest omission for me is lexicon of love

or Golden Age of Wireless.
kind of starting to think classic new wave/synth-pop is a problem for the current generation of writers, especially given similar omissions on the singles list.

campreverb, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:47 (seven years ago)

okay i will say some of their hip hop picks were the wrong album (BDP should be Criminal Minded not By Any Means) and Straight Outta Compton is way too high for an album that is about half filler

though the half that's not is about as impactful as music gets

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:47 (seven years ago)

No Def Leppard on the list? or did I miss Hysteria or Pyromania?

No Van Halen 1984?

I saw Appetite for Destruction but pop metal was pretty underrepresented for huge that was in the decade

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:48 (seven years ago)

xpost Criminal Minded is #20

President Keyes, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:50 (seven years ago)

no don't be cruel?

maura, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:51 (seven years ago)

no petty?

maura, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:51 (seven years ago)

Pet Shop Boys shafted again.

piscesx, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:51 (seven years ago)

no petty?

― maura, Monday, September 10, 2018 9:51 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah classic rock might actually be a bit underrated at this point

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:54 (seven years ago)

Pet Shop Boys shafted again.

― piscesx, Monday, September 10, 2018

yes this terrified me

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:54 (seven years ago)

Appetite for Destruction at 86. uh...

President Keyes, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:54 (seven years ago)

I wonder if Ned’s Music For The Masses piece in The Quietus (“Weirdly enough, it’s almost ignored”) played a part in its revival.

piscesx, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:56 (seven years ago)

I was secretly hoping that revisionism would get Alexander O'Neal's Hearsay to sneak in at the bottom of the list, but alas.

MarkoP, Monday, 10 September 2018 14:59 (seven years ago)

yeah i was bummed about this too but it's fine, i can't convince everyone that it's practically as good if not better than rhythm nation

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:00 (seven years ago)

In every Florida primary in which I've participated since 2004 I've written Hearsay on the ballot.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:01 (seven years ago)

and man...Pitchfork calls out the 'problematic' Descendants but not even a mention of Bad Brains homophobia?
smh

campreverb, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:13 (seven years ago)

the presence of like a virgin is v confusing to me

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:18 (seven years ago)

Was Tom Waits a victim of the great Fedora wars?

badg, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:18 (seven years ago)

did True Blue make it? I didn't check.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:23 (seven years ago)

Is that also why Hats is only 85?

MarkoP, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:23 (seven years ago)

btw everyone psb's actually is at 125

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)

Pet Shop Boys shafted again.

― piscesx, Monday, September 10, 2018 10:51 AM (thirty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this, yet again, is partly my fault

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)

126*

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)

did True Blue make it? I didn't check.

― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, September 10, 2018 8:23 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i forget half the records that placed every time i go through the list but: no i don't think so

a better '80s chic org-driven record than like a virgin is called diana

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:28 (seven years ago)

biggest omission for me is lexicon of love

― princess of hell (BradNelson)

Yeah, I was disappointed to see they'd left out this (my favourite album ever) and Dare. I would have liked to see more albums from the synth pop/new romantic era. No room for New Gold Dream, Sulk, Non Stop Erotic Cabaret, Tin Drum, A Secret Wish, Metamatic, The Golden Age Of Wireless, Upstairs At Eric's, Dazzle Ships, Kings Of The Wild Frontier, Telekon etc. I know I shouldn't be surprised at some/most of those, but to see them all miss out was a shame.

kitchen person, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:31 (seven years ago)

Also, no Go-Betweens!!

kitchen person, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:31 (seven years ago)

or country...

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:34 (seven years ago)

no Yoakam or Cash fer instance.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:34 (seven years ago)

yeah total lack of country and anything made in Latin America (iirc) were the glaring omissions to me.

rob, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:35 (seven years ago)

king's record shop robbed again

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:36 (seven years ago)

I feel like the 60s and 70s hipster canons are way more wide open for country and latin american music

President Keyes, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)

My feeling skimming was that while critical culture broadly had recognized the significance of 80s r&b on a much bigger scale than was true previously it seems to have only manifested on this list in certain Sade-Esque tokens

No “Diana” is insane

Hip hop wise I think it *has* kind of been reduced to the bare bones minimum, canonically ... Eazy e’s first solo should have made it

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:37 (seven years ago)

To my mind, anyone listing Technique and Music For The Masses but not Introspective should be called to account before a jury of some kind.

piscesx, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:39 (seven years ago)

yeah total lack of country and anything made in Latin America (iirc) were the glaring omissions to me.

Was there anything on the list not sung in English?

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:46 (seven years ago)

also lol at my no. 1 appearing absolutely nowhere on this list, it is not yet rickie lee jones' time i guess

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)

I feel like the 60s and 70s hipster canons are way more wide open for country and latin american music

― President Keyes, Monday, September 10, 2018 11:37 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah part of why I noticed is I don't know much about these albums and could use pointers

and tbf I did enjoy the hipster-canon-subverting fact that there are half a dozen Jamaican albums on this list while there is only one on the old 70s list (though smh at still managing to rank the Marley album highest)

rob, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:48 (seven years ago)


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