pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

By that standard there are other albums that should be way up there. Right?

It's clearly an important record, I just don't like it that much as a record. But obviously others do!

It's that high because it placed on just about every submitted list.

weirdest thing about the list to me is The Sensual World placing but not The Dreaming

if you’re listening for just the songs from thriller in toto* you’re missing a lot of the reason it’s still regarded so highly. the pyt sample on kanye’s “good life,” etc

* lol no pun intended

Wait for it...

are there any 9/11 references in this list or no

Love seeing Tango in the Night

― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 10. september 2018 15:27 (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes! That's one of my favorite reevaluations.

weirdest thing about the list to me is The Sensual World placing but not The Dreaming

― ufo, 10. september 2018 15:38 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, this is weird.

weirdest thing about the list to me is The Sensual World placing but not The Dreaming

― ufo, Monday, September 10, 2018 8:38 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agreed, The Dreaming is sort of the Kate fan's Kate record in so many ways

fourth'd but also not mad that my favorite kate record made it

I feel like "This Woman's Work" has been having a bit of a moment over the last couple of years

Might be a factor

do you mean eighteen years?

Culturally, like

Obviously it's a masterpiece

I listened to Minor Threat this weekend. No idea why anyone thinks it should be that high.

Yeah, I'd say that's another good case of "important" vs. good.

There should just be a list of "angriest albums of the '80s."

"this woman's work" is always having a moment

Can’t load this thread to see if anyone’s said this already but they did this one already in 2002. The list is still up.

i think a lot of that is prob due to the aftershock of the maxwell cover which also still seems to be relevant and beloved xp

You underestimate ILM.

xp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSdHgq3oBD8

weirdest thing about the list to me is The Sensual World placing but not The Dreaming

― ufo, Monday, September 10, 2018 9:38 AM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is partially my fault

Also, what do you think are the reasons for the decline in Tom Waits stock? Rain Dogs down to 42, and Swordfishtrombone gone completely.

― triggercut, Monday, September 10, 2018 8:24 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is also partially my fault

lol just saw the bottom of the list described as "a bunch of dance and dance-adjacent acts that they let brad nelson write about"

(I failed to vote for a lot of things I would have voted for)

lol just saw the bottom of the list described as "a bunch of dance and dance-adjacent acts that they let brad nelson write about"

― lowercase (eric), Monday, September 10, 2018 7:23 AM (fifty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's upppp

wish i had gotten the virgo blurb tbh

Also, what do you think are the reasons for the decline in Tom Waits stock?

The Best Show, maybe?

i've notice a pretty big tom waits backlash in the last couple years

Yeah Tom Waits coolness stock is way down right now as far as I can see

Nice to see Music For The Masses sneak in a list for once.

Hounds Of Love was 92 lol in the previous 80s list.

Hey, Don't Break the Oath got in. Guess I can't complain too much.

you know, I hate to nitpick, but goddamnit, the B-52's led the way for REM, not "alongside".

it's all been downhill for waits since he had a song on the shrek 2 soundtrack

How come everyone outside of ILM thinks Blue Bell Knoll is the best 80s Cocteaus album? I honestly though we'd seen the back of such nonsense.

part of it might be too that people caught on to waits essentially doing the exact same thing for 30 years

Hey, Don't Break the Oath got in. Guess I can't complain too much.

― jmm, Monday, September 10, 2018 7:31 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i was thrilled that all four of the metal records i voted for made it in (oath, to mega therion, altars of madness, streetcleaner)

Hey, Don't Break the Oath got in. Guess I can't complain too much.

― jmm, 10. september 2018 16:31 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah! Think it's the first Danish album to ever show up on one of these lists. Anne Linnet still got robbed, though.

xxp Blue Bell Knoll is the best CT album fyi

(best ct album still being debated as of last week on here, on some other thread)

it's sort of shocking that Cocteau Twins and Kate Bush had that little indie rock coolness stock back in 2002 for Treasure and Hounds of Love to barely make the list then

biggest omission for me is lexicon of love

and dare

no chic? was hoping real people wld make it

I'm annoyed I wasn't asked cuz Dare would've been in my ten and I would've big upped The Glow of Love

biggest omission for me is lexicon of love

or Golden Age of Wireless.
kind of starting to think classic new wave/synth-pop is a problem for the current generation of writers, especially given similar omissions on the singles list.

okay i will say some of their hip hop picks were the wrong album (BDP should be Criminal Minded not By Any Means) and Straight Outta Compton is way too high for an album that is about half filler

though the half that's not is about as impactful as music gets

No Def Leppard on the list? or did I miss Hysteria or Pyromania?

No Van Halen 1984?

I saw Appetite for Destruction but pop metal was pretty underrepresented for huge that was in the decade

xpost Criminal Minded is #20

no don't be cruel?

no petty?

Pet Shop Boys shafted again.