The list of classic punk bands from the pre-SST era whose best album isn't their first album is like 1. the Stooges 2. the Clash
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link
(or a singles collection)
I'd argue yr wrong about The Stooges and that Fun House is kinda overrated, but really only for the purposes of this thread, but The Stooges first album is pretty fucking solid.
― sarahell, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link
Also, Phil's opinion is wrong because some of the best bands only put out one album
though I would argue that Adam & the Ants 1st album wasn't their best, but partly because the Demos were better
― sarahell, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link
My controversial opinion: Adam & the Ants was a better band than The Clash
― sarahell, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link
About the Clash's 1st album not being their best...
― Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link
Controversial opinion: Bands that only put out one album suck. I'm not gonna sit here all day worrying about it, but off the top of my head I can't think of a single (rock/metal) band that only put out one album that I give a shit about. All the bands I like have exhibited some degree of longevity.
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link
Good lord.
― campreverb, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link
I can't think of a single (rock/metal) band that only put out one album that I give a shit about.
that's because you suck.
― sarahell, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
Modern Lovers
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link
Sucked.
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link
Haha ok
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link
>:(
― Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link
Modern Lovers sucking is def. controversial and wrong
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link
They're what I think of as "well poisoners": not only did they suck, but they inspired dozens if not hundreds of other bands to suck, too!
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link
not only did they suck, but they inspired dozens if not hundreds of other bands to suck, too!
also known as "The Nirvana Paradox"
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link
xp You’re gonna have to show your work here, sir...
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link
In one of those four-panel, expanding-brain memes, from the top (walnut brain) it goes: Pearl jam rocks; Pearl jam sucks; Pearl jam rocks; Pearl jam sucks
― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link
are there any good bands that didn't inspire a bunch of shitty bands?
― sarahell, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link
and yet they still suck
― flappy bird, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link
re: modern lovers
unperson otm about poisoning the well and PP the nirvana paradox is a great name for that. Mac DeMarco a culprit
― flappy bird, Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link
Explain why the Modern Lovers suck
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link
Two words: Jonathan Richman.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
His singing? Lyrics? Voice?
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
Xp. So wrong. Additionally it answers nothing. What is your problem with him? He is one of the funniest and nicest rock musicians. Such a strong presence and so charming. One of the best live acts around.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link
Yes on all three counts. His supposedly endearing awkwardness rubs me the wrong way – there's no edge to it. I still like 'Roadrunner', though.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link
plenty of great bands that put out one album - or no albums! a good band is lightning in a bottle and most of them don't last. but feel free to piss on the united states of america if it'll make you happy
― milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 September 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
xp He was a young guy in the ‘70s who still loved the ‘50s, he still loved the Old World
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link
The Modern Lovers are terrific rock ‘n rollsongs sung by a guy who sounds like a normal person (instead of a rock star) and who had real personality and an interesting p.o.v. I’m super thankful, they existed and inspired what they inspired...
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link
I can see why people wouldn't like him though.
― Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 September 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
morrisp otm
― raise my chicken finger (Willl), Saturday, 8 September 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link
I've been quoting "Pablo Picasso" all week
― brimstead, Saturday, 8 September 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link
All of Tom Scholz's solos sound the fucking same
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 September 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link
The modern lovers totally had an “edge” but it doesn’t seem like one you all would like.
“Hospital” is an extremely creepy ballad of a man obsessed—passively aggressively putting down a drug addicted young women for her unhealthy decisions and setting himself up as a kind of savior... but it’s obvious he only cares about her insofar as he wants to be with her. “Nice guy syndrome to the max.”
Similar types of bitterness run throughout the album. Even “pablo picasso” is kind of like a complaint that all the cool guys get to harass women and he can’t. His pining for the “old world” can easily be seen in this vein as well—a kind of prefigure of the current MRA fetishization of a world before feminism. He doesn’t lay it out but looking at the album as a whole he definitely sees himself as a kind of doeky guy who doesn’t really cut it in the “new world” of sexual liberation.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 8 September 2018 23:14 (five years ago) link
More musicians should shit on their fans
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 September 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link
I don’t think the presence of these uncomfortable themes make the album “bad” as I don’t need my music to align with my morality (to a point—there is still a line). It’s actually weirdly psychologically convincing—the catcher in the rye of proto punk or whatever genre it is.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 8 September 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link
Self xp
He’s not complaining that he doesn’t get to harass women; he’s trying to teach a lesson to creeps who do:
Oh well be not schmuck, be not obnoxiousBe not bellbottom bummer or assholeRemember the story of Pablo Picasso
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 23:48 (five years ago) link
I also don’t read “Hospital” at all the way you do
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 8 September 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link
When you get out of the hospitalLet me back into your life
idk man
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 September 2018 00:09 (five years ago) link
it's not the time to be making romantic overtures
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 September 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link
And when you get out of the dating barI'll be here to get back into your life
this is a song told from the perspective of a stalker.
I can't stand what you doI'm in love with your eyesOh, I can't stand what you doSometimes I can't stand you
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 September 2018 00:11 (five years ago) link
also the "story of pablo picasso" is that he could get away with trawling for girls, "not like you"
i'm not saying this is a horrible, evil album. i'm just saying the narrator of these songs isn't as much of a forrest gump type as he likes to think he is.
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 September 2018 00:16 (five years ago) link
yes the ambiguity around the narrator's right-on-ness or lack of it is what gives those songs their depth of meaning iirc
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 9 September 2018 00:16 (five years ago) link
yeah i think so. i don't think the album would have really broken through with the cool kids of the late 70s if there wasn't more to it than the kind of boppy nostalgia quality you get from the surface
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 September 2018 00:17 (five years ago) link
modern lovers a persanolity band if there ever was one. anyways the guys a total gentleman, treeship calling him an mra is very impressive trolling tho
― flopson, Sunday, 9 September 2018 00:19 (five years ago) link
no way. this is yet another case of me being correct.
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 September 2018 00:20 (five years ago) link
I think it’s the perspective of a young guy being hella emo (xxp)
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 9 September 2018 00:20 (five years ago) link