De La Soul - Classic or Dud?

eh good outweighs the bad imo

I've never cared for Zappa. the Turtles records + T. Rex + their backing vocals on all sorts of stuff (the Psychedelic Furs!) make them forever classic imo

It is weird that their albums disappeared while Paul's Boutique has never gone out of print.

yeah, lawsuits aside, those records almost certainly went out of print after Tommy Boy left Warner. I'd be surprised if Three Feet and Is Dead turn up on Bandcamp.

right, but I would guess that Tommy Boy didn't re-issue or license them to others for re-issue because of the legal settlements (having to pay Armen Boladian $0.01 on every copy sold or whatever it was)

tried to buy buhloone on bandcamp, but there is some error going on. anyone have better luck?

I think Warner still held the catalogue actually! and while they could afford to pay a weird publishing split and an onerous mechanical here and there, once Tom himself was gone, there was no longer a perceived A&R value to making a lower amount on any one sale because the artist was out there promoting the overall oeuvre

yeah that makes sense

yo can someone ysi buloone? i can't find a digital copy to buy that works and i have no idea where in storage my old cds are.

I envy you hearing it for the first time!

i really will be like the first time , i haven't heard through in years

I can email a zip

i sent you my email through here

Could you send it again? Odd - I saw it, clicked on it, then it vanished.

sent TY

just another area
for me to pah-trol

Got it that time.

See what happens...

success!

Ah good.

i be four eleven

sometimes I think it's their best album - not as left-field startling as the debut, but more concise, no filler

and all of the guest spots are fantastic

It IS their best album.

but DLSID exist

im sure this was debated upthread but i am still on the fence myself

Nah, Dead is easily their most creative album. 3 Feet is more accessible, Buhloone is more abstract. They're all three absolutely brilliant and I could get on board with any well-articulated reasons why any of them are their overall best album.

Personally, my pick is Dead.👌

I love these dudes so much. I ranked them.

Never saw em live back in the day but just saw them do a free show outdoors outside the Kennedy Center. Recognized Potholes in my Lawn, Me, Myself & I, and one other one. not the rest , but it was all still fun with lots of calls to wave your arms in the air.

lol at "one other one"

it might blow up but it won't go pop

THE BEST...THE BEST?...THE BEST! OOH WEEE!

sometimes I think it's their best album - not as left-field startling as the debut, but more concise, no filler

it is indeed

man Art Official Intelligence: Mosaic Thump is so damn tight. Only the attempts at Puff-era crossover go splat.

Every mixtape should contain one of the following songs:

Oodles of Os
Millie Pulled A Pistol On Santa
Ego Trippin' (Part 2)
Rock Co.Kane Flow

sadly no streaming playlists can.

You can include "Rock Co.Kane Flow" on Spotify

ah fair, missed that one

i love mosaic thump. but which songs are the crossover grabs you speak of?

"The Art of Getting Jumped" and "U Can Do (Life)."

The art of Getting Jumped, really? I’d say the pop stabs are Oooh, IC Y’all and All Good. Oooh is excellent and the other 2 are good. Whole album is worthwhile and I’d say Bionix had more crossover attempts though it’s awesome, too.

someone on twitter posted this live version of rock co kane flow with doom, fun clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd5LKWqGCSk

maybe they were just really bad at trying to crossover cos i dont really get that from those.

bionix tried a lot harder i think. i love that one too tho.

oh hey a new De La album!
without trugoy.
produced by DJ Khalid.
wtf is going on here.

oh wait this is not that dj khalid and it is eight years old
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug_1_%26_Plug_2_Present..._First_Serve

also that is Trugoy, he just started going officially by the ludicrous alias "Dave" over two decades ago

Did and maybe do still love these guys but after revisiting their old albums, have concluded that they have quite boring voices. In a way that's their legacy, making it ok to be a rapper with a boring voice.

They def had some late career highlights, grind date being the one yet sticks out, but I think what prince Paul did was balance out the boring voices with a lot of colourful distractions so you forgot that.

*the one that sticks out

you have some very challenging opinions

these are opinions, all right

You can see their post Paul career as a way of fully embracing the regular guy shtick their voices previously only suggested. Eg - trying people. The humour also became less zany and quirky and more regular. In fairness, the first serve album did try to address the decline in clever humour a little bit.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug_1_%26_Plug_2_Present..._First_Serve

I need to check out their 2016 album. Totally passed me by.