Noel Ellis is dope, that one's new to me!
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 15:42 (six years ago) link
yea that noel ellis tune really is. he had that reissue release on light in the attic a while back, maybe 10 or 12 years ago? it's all good but that one is probably the best on it. iirc he was a toronto dude?
― marcos, Friday, 31 August 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link
Alton Ellis' son? Was previously unaware of him.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 16:01 (six years ago) link
Yes. Really good LP, a highpoint of Canadian reggae!
I've been listening obsessively to side 2 of "Bobby Bobylon" as usual.
― Tim, Friday, 31 August 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link
xp yea his son!
― marcos, Friday, 31 August 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link
Bobby Bobylon is so good! Maybe it just fell thru the cracks for me personally, but I wasn't even aware of it until like after 10+ yrs of heavy digging into reggae. It should get more mentions as one of the best.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link
wait which Noel Ellis album are we talking about?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link
is there more than one?
https://www.discogs.com/Noel-Ellis-Pre-Release/master/175484
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link
yeah I couple others came up when I searched. But I just dl'd that one cause the others had more "modern" production.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link
huh I don't have that McGregor album either, although I do have some "Showcase" LP of his from around the same time.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link
I'm only aware of the one Noel Ellis album - recorded in 1983 but has a 70s roots thing, Agree that's probably the best track. Killer. Quite the line up on there, too: Jackie Mittoo, Willie Williams, Johnnie Osbourne.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link
Bobby Bobylon is a stone classic! It's worth finding a reissue with the extended version of "Rastaman Camp" imo, one of my all-time favorite tunes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMwwTZ1QW0
― rob, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link
I don't need much convincing, love that era of Niney productions
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link
this one's Studio One so no Niney, but it sounds amazing: about as deep roots they ever got
― rob, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link
ah. yeah well Coxsone Dodd, I guess he's okay too :)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link
xp Yeah I love the Niney cut on “Rastaman Camp” as well. Would not like to choose between that one and the Studio 1 version.
― Tim, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link
oh is the extended version a Niney mix? my liner notes don't make that clear at all (my apologies, Οὖτις), but that makes sense
― rob, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link
What a song indeed, rob (rastaman camp), didn't know it.Reggae has some fascinating periods of transition between its subgenres. One I love is the meeting of roots, dub and deejay, that has produced incredibly deep music, often in 12'' singles. Where the song just posted absolutely belongs. We're pretty far from an idiot's guide, but it's also the style the first poster was sort of asking for.Some favorites I have in that vein.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsE5ZhPmh74https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBKG4ORSJWAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8xzqekt6eYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly-ALyrY1Zkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyP8bzhP6Y0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUBHkMQmzpIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_kldLmm2moand someone mentioned fancy dub vocalshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IvAQRu17YY
For an idiot: Rhythm & Sound Showcase and the Basic Replay compilation.
― Nabozo, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link
lol I only know two of those (the Ras Michael and Prince Far I tracks)
sometimes it's comforting to think that I will never hear all the amazing reggae from the 70s and 80s, that it isn't humanly possible
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:42 (six years ago) link
No there are two very different Freddie McGregor cost on "Rastaman Camp": the Studio1 cut off "Bobby Bobylon" and remixed into avery murky brilliance in the youtube above, and a militant horn-driven Niney produced cut a few years later (that version's on a decidedly not-awful-but-not-amazing Observers LP called "Mr McGregor fwiw).
― Tim, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link
Cuts, not cost
Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss4TNbDZeQg
― Tim, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link
ah thanks Tim. that's quite nice; the muted trumpet is a nice touch, don't think I've heard that much in reggae (maybe? cue 10 amazing tracks I've never heard lol)
that Ijahman Levi song is a trip and of course "Plant Up" is a modernist masterpiece. I'll have to come back to Nabozo's others! Οὖτις otm regarding the bottomless volume of this stuff
― rob, Friday, 31 August 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link
bottomless volume from a poor country of 2 million people! (in 1975) and it was pretty much like, what, 25 musicians and 10 producers
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link
then the amount of truly great singers, sheeeesh
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link
Most of that lot new to me! This mix of Rastaman Camp is magnificent.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:54 (six years ago) link
Christ, this Silvertones track is immense. The first half is almost proto-Jungle!
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 1 September 2018 09:22 (six years ago) link
I had found a lot of those tracks while searching for this Hitrun label, and following a few raters on RYM, most notably TheRevivalist.A few more if you don't mind, in the vaguely defined deep roots / soulful vocals / spaced out prods.
Gregory Isaacs - Report to mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkUY8jZFYNk
Broggs / Prince Far I - Higher Field Marshall / I and I the Chosen Oneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjWtrEJvqaQ
Dr Alimantado - Born for a Purposehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6pIONWxTbs
Rhythm & Sound - Mash Down Babylonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Wkjy3UCIs
Danny Henry - African Goldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMg2taR8fLs
Love Joys - All I can sayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nL_hx0Gezk
Ranking Dread - Shut me Mouthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zceiA35_seY
And yes, it's endless. If we could also talk of early digital dancehall... another forgotten space diamond mine.Just one very famous onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSVWJjDfUCI
― Nabozo, Saturday, 1 September 2018 10:28 (six years ago) link
Yeah Hitrun is always worth looking for - I have a copy of this CD comp (it’s an ahem “unofficial release” but the fellow who does them takes great pride in his remastering and does a good job): https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Hit-Run-Singles-Collection-1978-79-Volume-1/release/7709902
― Tim, Saturday, 1 September 2018 10:34 (six years ago) link
My favourite Chosen Brothers/Rhythm & Sound is this monster (also featuring Bullwackie's All Stars):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVHPDuGtFTo
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 1 September 2018 18:18 (six years ago) link
i have the basic channel reissue of that record and i have literally never played that side of it
but i have played the other side too many times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ytax95DanA
― the late great, Saturday, 1 September 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link
listening to joe higgs' "life of contradiction" right now and it's very good.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 1 September 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link
https://imgur.com/a/OeYFlie
Was behind this work of genius the other morning. Caption needed. Current thinking 'under heavy spanners' or 'call Jah for joists and joints'.
― Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Saturday, 17 November 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
Well, that's irritating.
― Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Saturday, 17 November 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link
Reminds me of a thread I’ve been meaning to start.
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 17 November 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link
For the record, I was behind a van on the way to work that bore the magnificent name 'I and I Carpentry'.
― Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Saturday, 17 November 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link
If I and I were a carpenter
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 November 2018 13:07 (five years ago) link
Should have capitalized the last word
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 November 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link
starting to think Prince Far I never made a bad record
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:01 (five years ago) link
I haven't heard a bad one, but they are fairly homogenous. I have 5 or so, but I really only listen to the Cry Tuff compilations and Voice of Thunder.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link
Cry Tuff volumes are all topshelf, but sometimes I just wanna hear him read some bible psalms, you know?
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 August 2019 19:51 (five years ago) link
Just a quick revive to praise jah once more for the Silvertones 'Cheating and Lying' track upthread. Fire.
And I don't suppose this is new to anyone but was listening to Don Carlos on Friday night and this is just immense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi8m2gMvpA8
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
so good
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link
I'm feeling this atm
https://youtu.be/FM9AGbJgTSI
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link
Pass me the lazer beam
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
Cornell Campbell on the same backing track as that Don (Mc?)Carlos track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S67xXlDQTKU
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link
Decent looking show on BBC4 tonight: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00095ky
A treasure trove of tapes from the golden age of reggae has been salvaged and provides the soundtrack to the compelling story of the family behind the legendary Randy's Studio 17.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Friday, 11 October 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
This "Sound of Macka Dub" (apparently the only album credited solely to Carleton and Family Man) is dope as hellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaxpkW5WHYg
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 October 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
Barry Brown, "Mr. C.I.D."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHj97-qNI1I
― Pierre Delecto, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link
^on this fantastic comp: https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Biggest-Dancehall-Anthems-1979-82-The-Birth-Of-Dancehall/release/527989
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link