Madonna: Classic Or Dud

Madonna>erotica>bedtime stories>Ray of light>true blue>like a Virgin>like a prayer>confessions on a dancefloor>American Life>have no idea about the others

Like a Prayer = Erotica
> True Blue > Ray of Light > Music > Bedtime Stories > Madonna > Like a Virgin > Confessions on a Dancefloor > American Life

Forgot to add fuiud

I will never get the enduring ILM love for Erotica. It disappointed me then, and I've never had cause to readjust my reaction.

Yeah, few albums cause more HUH responses from Madonna fans than when I admit I love Erotica.

It doesn't automatically wow on first listen as, say, Like a Prayer does - it's a touch less immediate. However, repeated exposure to the album opens it up.

Deeper and deeper is also maybe her best song (not really that's borderline!)

'Deeper and Deeper' is an all-time favourite of mine, but 'Bad Girl' is the one from Erotica - just pure ear candy.

Speaking of flamenco, my friend knows the session dude that did the Spanish guitar on "La Isla Bonita." He said it was just another session and he didn't think much of it ... until he learned he got a writing credit. Apparently the royalties were immediately enough to buy a house in LA.

Amazing stuff here, a docu from the late 90s; she wanders around her ‘80s NY haunts with Rupert Everett, bumps into some old neighbours, tells a few fine tales, freaks people out, talks about being skint..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO2vYafZ3sY

my friend knows the session dude that did the Spanish guitar on "La Isla Bonita." He said it was just another session and he didn't think much of it ... until he learned he got a writing credit.

Bruce Gaitsch? Yeah, he's an L.A. session cat.

This was his big ticket to LA, I think. He did a lot of stuff with Richard Marx.

!!!

I've mentioned this anecdote earlier but it's worth sharing again. Bassist Guy Pratt with a rare anecdote about what she's like in the studio, here recording "Like a Prayer":

Pratt recalled that after the middle chorus was recorded, she notified the musicians of some changes in the production. "Jonathan, do less of the high-hat in the middle eight, and more of a fill towards the end. Guy, I want duck eggs [semibreves] on the end, and Chester, bring in your guitar on the second verse," she instructed

The bassline on 'Like a Prayer' (the album version not the Immaculate Collection remake) is fucking amazing.

I thought that one was Randy Jackson.

Bassist Guy Pratt with a rare anecdote about what she's like in the studio

Pratt had a solid five minutes in his first stand-up show about her as boss and person

obviously a horrible person; also kind of a dope

https://deadline.com/2018/08/mtv-vmas-madonnas-aretha-franklin-tribute-backlash-1202448989/

Honestly who else were they going to get? You really wanted Jessie J to honk her way through "Respect" or J. Lo to not hit the votes on "Natural Woman"?

Like maybe the move was to not have a tribute at all, or to have some sort of thing a la the Oscars so they could also mention Avicii (more relevant to the MTV demo) or Tom Petty (Video Vanguard winner who actually got played on MTV for more than, what, two or three years)

It might have been a bad speech! But everyone being like "ugh why HER" is being ahistorical at best

Anyone seen this doc? TVO (in Canada) is airing it this coming weekend. I'm curious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BuM2hMNmVM

What if we pitched an gaylxor omnibus 33 1/3 of /Erotica/?

Definitely worth watching. It really focuses on the dancers and is not trying to make it all about Madonna, really, which is good.

xp

xp still the best idea i've ever seeded here

give me the "words" chapter

signing myself up early to write the extremely meta chapter on "words"

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, August 16, 2018 4:15 PM (five months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm gonna make this joke every time until it happens

lex gets "Deeper and Deeper"

I want "Thief of Hearts"

I'd be up for it! Even just an unofficial set of pieces on the album.

If done by song then I'd want "Waiting" or "Bad Girl" (assuming "Deeper & Deeper" is taken).

I get "Waiting" or the awesome task of defending "Why's It So Hard"

"Why's it so on this album?"

"It complements 'In This Life'."

“Secret Garden,” pls (assuming “Deeper and Deeper” etc)

Funny this thread got revived, for yesterday I started writing a Madonna '80s ranking that does not align with consensus.

I couldn't muster a full chapter but I have a soft spot for "Why's It So Hard" simply due to the reggae bounce piano house production.

On second thought, I think I'd have more fun with "Fever."

According to the 33 1/3 site, they just had a round of new submissions last year, and thus will probably not be doing another one until 2020 or so (I'm guessing). If y'all are serious about making "Erotica by gaylxor" a thing, I'm down for putting something together for the next round. There is nothing on the site prohibiting submissions by multiple authors, but if this actually gets to the early planning stages, we might want inquire about this at some point.

I couldn't muster a full chapter but I have a soft spot for "Why's It So Hard" simply due to the reggae bounce piano house production.

― Tim F, Wednesday, January 30, 2019 8:20 PM (five minutes ago)

and the gay "why is it soooo damnnnn hardddd"

So here's my eighties list.

Disqualify You Can Dance and I agree with this ranking.

my fave moment was Sonic Youth leaving a boombox playing "Live to Tell" onstage after a show in Hoboken, 1986

My favorite moment tonight was eating a pink cookie.

Looks like she's doing a theatere tour, residencies in each city? She's playing something like five nights at the Chicago Theatere here this fall.

Classic: five or six of the singles between 1983 and 1986, plus Vogue.

Dud: almost everything else.

I think I feel somewhat similarly except that I hate "Vogue".

Wow: https://news.avclub.com/like-a-prayer-producer-shares-3-demos-in-protest-of-auc-1836663057?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MSDeyFeafo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1bXwxH6I1I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyFramnrEWc

protesting an upcoming auction of the Madonna’s personal items

This seems unlikely

According to Rolling Stone, there are 70 items going on sale; in addition to the tapes, costumes and a “handwritten apology letter” sent to Madonna a year before he was murdered are included.

Also, good to hear that being murdered hasn’t stopped Mr Stone from speaking.

I had to hover over the URL myself to see just who died.