I think there's a case to be made for the "bottom-up" approach being maybe superior, with Wikipedia (imperfect though it may be) as an obvious use case, given how much it's come to be relied upon / cited. Unlike Wikipedia, though, stuff gets pulled from YouTube all the time. Just look at any years-old ILM thread with a decent number of embeds.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 4 July 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link
pssst
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1w75GyqYmFc5lvr4hp2vdWK/the-new-bbc-sounds-app
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link
when yr being recommended out of print stuff I think it's safe to assume labels are not involved
― ogmor, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link
https://www.stereogum.com/2004364/spotify-offers-refunds-for-excessive-drake-promotion/news/vindicated
― calstars, Thursday, 5 July 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
Seems like much ado over little to me, but I guess Spotify has learned their lesson...
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link
... or they got enough $$$ from the label that a few refunds is trivial
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link
I assume "a few refunds" is trivial in general for most companies
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link
imagine asking for a refund for that.
― Hall of Fam (Spottie), Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link
was more annoyed by spotify's promotion of its own voice control technology
― scopin' VARs (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link
I hope this isn’t coming out of your bonus Glenn
― calstars, Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link
surely glenn has come up with a more interesting name for that pay genre
― scopin' VARs (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 July 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link
Every time somebody hits Next on a Drake song before the end, I get $.0001 for each second remaining. People laughed at me when I originally made this deal. "Who are 'Drake' and why would people need to skip them?"
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 6 July 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link
good analysis imo at the FT here (t.co link to get past the paywall, but google "Spotify: Drake-oil salesmen" if the link doesn't work
https://t.co/5PvVMWlO8E
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 7 July 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link
The rogue KING has another new track out.
I laughed when this showed up as "Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark" on my release radar tho:https://open.spotify.com/track/3EJfmzhb9CNJT43ZGOP88U?si=LNlogGsdS0S-NdOte6Cd4Q
― Jeff W, Saturday, 7 July 2018 08:34 (five years ago) link
Got both of those too - also a Squeeze that Spotify thinks is that Squeeze but isn't. This is definitely happening more often lately.
― shaqiri tip (nashwan), Saturday, 7 July 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link
I got that "OMD" track too. Guessing those aren't guest bars.
― DJI, Saturday, 7 July 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link
Someone should rap over OMD's 'Sacred Heart' though.
― shaqiri tip (nashwan), Saturday, 7 July 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link
Maddeningly, when I save a playlist on my iPad, it saves as ARTIST - ALBUM, but when I do it on the desktop app it saves as ALBUM - ARTIST
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 8 July 2018 09:52 (five years ago) link
This desktop behaviour appears to be a recent change -- I have an old playlist folder to which I drag albums as playlists on my desktop, and all previous entries are ARTIST – ALBUM, but suddenly now, newly dragged albums are named ALBUM – ARTIST. Grr.
― anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
hey uh pretty sure that new Fucked Up song is...a different Fucked Up
― Simon H., Friday, 13 July 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link
i’ve been reporting these mixups when they show up in release radar by clicking the three dots on the right hand side
― maura, Friday, 13 July 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link
ah!
― Simon H., Friday, 13 July 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link
Spotify just reminded me it’s fhe weekend and that it’s time to lay back and relax and maybe chill to some jamsNo shit bra?
― calstars, Saturday, 14 July 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link
A few weeks ago it offered up a playlist — “Songs to Test Headphones With” (192,347 Followers)
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Saturday, 14 July 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link
The summer rewind playlist I got this year is really good!
I've seen “Songs to Test Headphones With” before--seems to be mostly "dads who are really into music" stuff iirc? Steely Dan, Roxy Music, etc
― Dan I., Sunday, 15 July 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
Hey, but after checking it out I see that now Spotify has the real recording of Axel F! I think it was some fake 3rd party recreation before...
― Dan I., Sunday, 15 July 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
Glad to see 'Songs to Test Headphones With' includes Happiness Is Easy by Talk Talk, that song was always my go-to for that back in the Discman era.
― Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 15 July 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
probably my single biggest gripe about the mobile app is that when it decides you're offline -- which has little or nothing to do with whether you're actually online -- the app is unusable until it decides you're online again, which can take ages
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link
Oh yes, that is bad. It's about my only gripe really, apart from the startup time.
― Alba, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link
I don't get that - you have premium, right? When it thinks I'm offline it still lets me play tracks I've downloaded.
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link
Smae here
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link
..."downloaded"?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I have premium. I'm not talking about tracks I've downloaded but about ones I want to stream.
― Alba, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link
Which is mostly the way I listen, given that I have unlimited data but only 64GB on my phone.
― Alba, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link
I get this too: I'm sea Ching and playing from the whole catalogue; my connection drops for whatever reason so the app goes into offline mode; in offline mode I can still search whatever tracks I have downloaded (stuff on my SD card, for instance); my connection is restored, but it takes ages (sometimes not until I've crashed and reopened) to recognise I'm back in online mode and want to search the whole catalogue. It's maddening.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link
*searching,ffs.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link
I do have premium but when I use mobile Spotify it's to stream (if a track's downloaded it's probably on my phone anyway)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
The app is bad both ways: if you’re online and then lose connection, it will try for ages to load a playlist even if it has it locally. Infuriating behaviour on the Tube. You can fix it by switching to offline mode but they hide that
― stet, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link
yes, the "thinks you're offline" problem is the worst. the solution, which seems to be downloading stuff you really want to listen to reliably, also sucks because you end up filling up space to the point where the app needs to be deleted and re-downloaded to ever function properly again.
these two pretty big problems make it extra annoying when the app tries to sell you on using the new voice control feature you will never use and they wasted time on. squashing bugs doesn't dazzle investors, though.
― Impossible Burgermeat. Unlikely Seitan. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link
Spotify would probably say "Tube use-case problems" are a tiny percentage of users and not worth dealing with.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
Right, tho otoh metro commuting is prime listening hours. And it's make or break stuff: if a service doesn't work on someone's commute and a competitor's does, it doesn't matter how rock solid they are elsewhere. (And fixing it for the specific case has general benefits for everyone. Mobile connections aren't reliable is true as ever)
― stet, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link
i agree with everything you're saying
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link
I was happy to see the app shrink in size when I “undownloaded” almost all of my library. Originally the app was 2.1 gigs and it shrank to about 1.6 or so. Better than nothing
― calstars, Thursday, 19 July 2018 01:50 (five years ago) link
There's a new 'delete cache' option in the latest version, but it, uh, doesn't seem to do anything - sizewise, at least. I'm resigned to the 'nuke from space' option once a month or so.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 19 July 2018 07:07 (five years ago) link
just checking that y'all don't have "offline mode" checked in preferences?
I stream from the desktop client when I'm at home but I never stream on mobile. Basically the mobile app is my main offline music player. With a 128GB SD card there is very little to worry about w/r/t storage space.
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 19 July 2018 07:17 (five years ago) link
that option is available to me. you have premium, right?
I finally figured it out. Should have checked this thread a month ago.
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 19 July 2018 08:06 (five years ago) link
Feel like I've complained about this recently, but for me the biggest mark against Spotify is the lack of search options. I used to be able to search for genre (which wasn't really all that useful given the often weird genre names), genre AND year, or by label, but the Mac desktop app doesn't appear to respect any of those anymore. I just did a search for a label and got nothing but a handful of playlists. Same thing for "Year:2017". It returned two songs, both with the word "year" and "2017" in the title. I guess they want us to use 3rd party apps to sift through their catalog. Maybe forcing the obsessive minority to jump through hoops puts less of a burden on their database servers or something.
― beard papa, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link
That sucks. Was working until recently.
― DJI, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
OK.. I do have to say, though, that right after I posted that I started searching around for 3rd party apps that would help me put some new playlists together, and found this, and now I'm not getting any work done at all. I still don't see a way with this tool to cross reference genre, label, and year. I'd like to do something like: Generate a playlist of everything released on four labels between '86 and 94.
― beard papa, Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
that looks p damn cool
― niels, Friday, 20 July 2018 06:52 (five years ago) link