lol it's finally the k.d. lang / stereolab crossover that we never realised we needed!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link
Don't Cry for Mitski: Can the most emotional indie songwriter out there move on with her musical life without breaking hearts?
― flappy bird, Thursday, 12 July 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link
She's 27?!
― kinder, Thursday, 12 July 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
How old did you think she was? Sounds about right to me
― calstars, Thursday, 12 July 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link
Yeah, idk why that would be surprising.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 July 2018 23:55 (five years ago) link
because her puberty album was just a few years ago, LOL!
― rip van wanko, Friday, 13 July 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link
fans of mitski, her producer Patrick recorded the new trust fund album. he is on the cover. its fun and silly. https://trustfund.bandcamp.com/album/bringing-the-backline
― meaulnes, Friday, 13 July 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link
One of the best albums of the year - I've sung its praises fruitlessly on two other threads - maybe it'll get more traction here. They did a great job supporting Mitski a couple years back
― imago, Friday, 13 July 2018 13:40 (five years ago) link
ha I think 27 just seems impossibly young to me. especially to have several albums. but I guess it's not that weird! I just feel like I have achieved nothing of worth!
― kinder, Friday, 13 July 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link
Bury me at makeout creek is very very good.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 23 July 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUfkfJfsKrc
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 9 August 2018 11:52 (five years ago) link
wow that's gorgeous
― ufo, Thursday, 9 August 2018 12:26 (five years ago) link
My first impressions of the record are that it's full songs with very funny lines like Nobody, but that Nobody is the standout track on it.
I feel like as I get to know more of them it'll seen more even. Anyway... v v v good.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 9 August 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link
it's rare for pop musicians to grind it to a halt like this, a la 'low'... perfect!
― meaulnes, Saturday, 11 August 2018 10:07 (five years ago) link
so much of this seems to be extraordinary but the last three songs stood out for me in particular
― monotony, Friday, 17 August 2018 06:14 (five years ago) link
enjoying this a lot but i do wish she'd let her songs be a bit longer and let the ideas breathe a little more. in this piece she says that her songs are deliberately short as "I’m not a straight white guy. No one’s going to listen to me noodle for 45 minutes" but that seems like an almost self-defeating attitude?
Geyser and Two Slow Dancers are as about as perfect an opener and closer as you can get
― ufo, Friday, 17 August 2018 07:28 (five years ago) link
Voice Coils did some ≈5m songs fwiw. Her comment seems odd to me, honestly, especially when it comes after her saying that she had deliberately been seeking out venues where people didn't want to hear her.
― The inexorable rise of identity condiments (Sund4r), Friday, 17 August 2018 09:43 (five years ago) link
This is beautiful! The singles aren't necessarily even my favourite tracks, which wasn't the case for Puberty 2. This is all so strong! I don't mind the short track lengths...it makes it feel more poignant and transitory.
― tangenttangent, Friday, 17 August 2018 10:11 (five years ago) link
Nobody is not the standout at all imo - this is brilliant and there's a few album tracks (Why Didn't You Stop Me, A Pearl, Washing Machine Heart) that are as great as anything she's done. The melodic choices!
― imago, Friday, 17 August 2018 12:44 (five years ago) link
Great album. It did take me a few plays to get my head round the brief and odd song structures, but everything has started to click pretty quickly. Nobody is still the best song I've heard all year.
― kitchen person, Friday, 17 August 2018 13:51 (five years ago) link
i was so sure that the loud organ fading down at the start of geyser was secretly a transition from a previous track, then this morning i grabbed the album and it's track 1, lol
i'm only at nobody on my first listen and nothing but the singles have jumped out in a good way yet, guess i'll have to listen about 43 more times today!
― challops trap house (Will M.), Friday, 17 August 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link
ok nvm yeah play 2 and i like everything except me and my husband because it sounds too much like the opening theme for home movies
― challops trap house (Will M.), Friday, 17 August 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
it sounds like a blur song haha
the only track i dislike is the horse one because it's too radiohead
there ends much of this album's similarity to 90s uk rock
― imago, Friday, 17 August 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link
baby, though i've closed my eyesi know who you pretend i ami know who you pretend i am
― lowercase (eric), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link
imo the short track lengths accentuate the feeling of ambiguity in a good way! sure it'll be a grower viscerally but the songwriting's strong all the way through
― lowercase (eric), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link
i.e. agree w tt lol
― lowercase (eric), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link
I've only heard the three lead songs from this particular album, all of which I like a lot. Tbc, though, I don't have any problem at all with Mitski's track lengths in general. I did raise an eyebrow at the idea that i) writing longer pieces of music as opposed to shorter ones is a matter of straight white male privilege and ii) this is the reason why Mitski of all people sticks to short songs.
― The inexorable rise of identity condiments (Sund4r), Friday, 17 August 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
where was that expressed? on this thread or did mitski say that?
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
short songs are good
short Mitski songs are very good
short Mitski songs on Be the Cowboy are just truly great
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 17 August 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
Yeah this is an absurdly good record
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link
I think there will be an increasing trend toward shorter songs and albums given how people listen to music now/how our brains are all fried by social media. There have been a few notable 30 minute-ish albums recently
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link
Treesh, it was in the Time piece that ufo linked:
Almost every song in her discography is under three minutes. This isn’t an artistic choice, Mitski stresses–it’s tactical: “I’m not a straight white guy. No one’s going to listen to me noodle for 45 minutes.”
― The inexorable rise of identity condiments (Sund4r), Friday, 17 August 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link
interesting. yeah, i kind of think that it's wrong to take from that quote, as time did, that she has "tactically" decided to release only 2ish minute long song, anticipating sexist impatience. sounds like she has some idea about white male privilege being connected to artistic indulgence though
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 17 August 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link
immediately i love this 1000x more than puberty 2 which i already thought was great
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link
way to keep taking it to the next level mitski
feel like musicians are writing more sub-2 minute songs these days.
Molina, Pinegrove guy, Mitski...uh, I had others when I thought about this earlier.
― alpine static, Saturday, 18 August 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link
joyce manor
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 August 2018 00:04 (five years ago) link
One local guy that recorded some of my old bands albums had this theory that second verses and choruses should be shorter than the first ones because the listeners have already heard it before, he's kind of eccentric in terms of having a lot of these little philosophical rules and I don't really agree but I found it useful to think about in terms of cutting out the fat in songs or thinking about stuff that maybe didn't need to be there
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 18 August 2018 00:08 (five years ago) link
Ha, that quote rules
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 18 August 2018 00:21 (five years ago) link
To be fair I would listen to Mitski noodle for 45 minutes.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 18 August 2018 01:17 (five years ago) link
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― the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 05:28 (five years ago) link
re the theory that 'second verses and choruses should be shorter than the first ones ' i had never stopped to think about the structure of 'your best american girl' until a week ago and it's the most extreme demonstration of this imaginable. well, viz. verses, anyway.
― the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 05:30 (five years ago) link
This album v.v.good. I'm all for short albums, regardless of who's making them.
― michaellambert, Sunday, 19 August 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link
this album is really excellent
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link
what are some of the consensus best tracks (i've named mine above)
― imago, Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 17 August 2018 22:47 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes please. As a "mixtape" or "playlist" or some nonsense.
Album is fire bops
― maffew12, Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link
Puberty 2 had that incredible run in the middle and YBAG is a crazy high peak but this album is much more consistently strong, imo
― alpine static, Sunday, 19 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
^^^
― imago, Sunday, 19 August 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtXPxXBWsVk
her live show seems drastically improved for this tour
― ufo, Monday, 20 August 2018 00:05 (five years ago) link
Ugh I was all set to accept this as a new direction and prepared to love it based on the reviews but it's all so stodgy.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 07:53 (five years ago) link