XXXTentacion - ?

And well, after I read that part I quoted above I thought “oh this is gonna be good, I need to see this” and then I saw the actual video and the whole thing is so lame. There’s no conflict in there, that’s just the writer overhyping edgy teen poetry.... again to push this mythos of this violent, disturbed genius. To me it seems like the other 3 people on stage didn’t give a fuck about it tbh. They were certainly not scared of him and why should they be? They weren’t women.

I hadn't heard Jimmy Wopo but I liked "Elm Street" and I watched an interview and he's, um, disarmingly does to earth and charming. This is so fucked up

To me it seems like the other 3 people on stage didn’t give a fuck about it tbh.

Yeah they look like they could easily be thinking, "Whatever..."

It’s not like he had the mic at sunday church.

XXXTentacion breaks Taylor Swift's single-day streaming record on Spotify https://t.co/QCoqKMao2o pic.twitter.com/t9UO2Je3jw

— Stereogum (@stereogum) June 20, 2018

nobODy i knOW HAD evER HEARD OF tHiS Guy. BillbOArd ChARtS dON’t mEan JACK shiT Anymore.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTHmLUHVwAIdRTY.jpg:large

glad that piece of shit aint getting a penny of it though

I bought this stuff at a gas station once... ended up getting gang-tased by 6 cops. Did they finally recall it?

i think so

https://i.redd.it/k2bv1jqtja511.jpg

...

denied entry into the uk. hurray

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/arts/music/xxxtentacion-arrest-murder-charge.html

xp oh wait i got confused with this bell end and 6six9ine or w/e, the other bell end

"yeah that xxxtentacion quote is dark, like something ed o'neill would say in one of his wayne's world scenes."

this is a very good burn

(and accurate)

xp oh wait i got confused with this bell end and 6six9ine or w/e, the other bell end

Or Trump?

Last year, one of them went differently. While Playboi Carti, Ugly God, and Madeintyo did their own supremely halfassed verses, cheering each other on, XXXTentacion lurked in the background, silent. When it was his turn to rap, the beat abruptly cut off. He crouched to the ground, froze, and grumbled, “If the world ever has an apocalypse, I will kill all of you fuckers.” The other rappers weren’t sure what to do. They stood there reverent, or maybe scared, or maybe just puzzled, while their supposed peer gave his slam-poetry jeremiad about annihilating humanity. It remains a strange fucking moment.

the gulf between this description and the muddled, awkward gunk that i observed when i actually watched the clip is grand canyon sized

Well, the world's a twisted place.

his misdeeds were reflective not of our culture of indifference to the mistreatment of women as a whole but reflective of teenagers' culture of indifference to pretty much everything

― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:52 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this resonates, but it's not just an indifference to me, but the inability to figure out what things have an actual weight in life. the inability to figure out what's going too far, what's forgivable, what's part of playing a persona and what is actually showing who you are. there are so many people who put on cynical personas or do things for a reaction and it takes a lot of development to make it beyond that. some people never change

the cynic in me says that jahseh onfroy crafted this stage persona that was emotionally stunted, dark, and violent and he happened to be an emotionally stunted, violent kid off stage. maybe he decided that was all he had to give the world, or never felt like showing even the people in his life that he had more than that

there are so many people who put on cynical personas or do things for a reaction

Some of them in this very thread!

Hadn’t read him in a while but it’s a standard Breihan thing, he’s often a really compelling writer and his enthusiasm is infectious until you see the thing he’s super excited about and it turns out to be kind of dumb.

From Pitchfork: But despite making a handful of the scene’s marquee hits, the 19-year old born Jahseh Onfroy stands apart from his SoundCloud rap peers. That distance was plainly illustrated in this year’s XXL Freshman cypher: while Playboi Carti, Ugly God, and Madeintyo bounce around, hyping one another with ad-libs and cooking dances, XXXTentacion lurks motionless in the background, head hung low. Then Sonny Digital cuts the beat, and X crouches to the floor, expressionless, rapping in a chilling monotone: “And if the world ever has an apocalypse, I will kill all of you fuckers.” There is a sense of unease when Digital brings the beat back; whatever just happened, no one is sure how to follow it.

From Stereogum: Last year, one of them went differently. While Playboi Carti, Ugly God, and Madeintyo did their own supremely halfassed verses, cheering each other on, XXXTentacion lurked in the background, silent. When it was his turn to rap, the beat abruptly cut off. He crouched to the ground, froze, and grumbled, “If the world ever has an apocalypse, I will kill all of you fuckers.” The other rappers weren’t sure what to do. They stood there reverent, or maybe scared, or maybe just puzzled, while their supposed peer gave his slam-poetry jeremiad about annihilating humanity. It remains a strange fucking moment.

*chin-stroke emoji*

that moment was indisputably striking imo; it inspired all these twitter memes of like how xxx was in the trenchcoat mafia or w/e. The theater didn't work for a jaded thirtysomething ilxor maybe but i think it *is* a good example of how xxx stood apart from his peers even if certain descriptions of it leave something to be desired

If that is the event on which you want to build a legend be my guest.

He crouched to the ground, froze, and grumbled, “Ten rings on like a basketball player.”

These articles could explain why the kids liked him, without making the slippage into mythologizing / portraying him as a rebel who can’t be constrained by society etc.

But mythologizing is a big part of music writing, as well as fans (and other artists) talking/writing about artists they love – and that’s part of the difficulty here I guess.

There’s outtakes as well so you can flush this myth that the rest of then were scared of him or that this was somehow unexpected or puzzling or whatever to anyone involved. They’re even laughing and high fiving one another:

https://youtu.be/MZOhsnT4mGs

Fuck your narrative

his shows looked wild

idnfw this guy but look at me is indisputably one of the singles of the 10s

I watched the clip for the first time last night and the other three looked like they were in on it and playing along with the theatre tbh.

the gulf between this description and the muddled, awkward gunk that i observed when i actually watched the clip is grand canyon sized

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:21 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

Yeah of course, its contrived the same way wrestling is "fake" but the rubric that determines who gets to be face, who gets to be heel, who loses and who gets the belt is grounded in more tangible stuff.

So between the egos of the other rappers in the room and whichever creative director or w/e had final say on this thing, it was agreed that dude gets the big piece of chicken. He got the last word, he was allowed to stand out.

To the kind of people that get invested in this, those that are prepared to suspend disbelief and take it at face value, this adds tension and carries weight so this,

These articles could explain why the kids liked him, without making the slippage into mythologizing / portraying him as a rebel who can’t be constrained by society etc

rather than being difficult is just impossible. They liked him because he told them he was rebel who can’t be constrained by society etc and at the very least, made them want to believe it.

That Tom Breihan genuinely appears to buy in is impressive given that he's not a high schooler but more power to him. For the most part you don't get to shape the narrative of things you don't have a stake in.

That Tom Breihan genuinely appears to buy in is impressive given that he's not a high schooler but more power to him

Breihan also really likes pro wrestling and direct-to-video action movies. He is in very, very close touch with his inner 12-year-old.

Everyone who originally cannonballed into this thread to say how powerful and good two paragraphs of XXL Freshman freestyle fan fiction were really showed their ass

He crouched to the ground, froze, and grumbled, “Ten rings on like a basketball player.”

― cr.ht (crüt), Thursday, June 21, 2018 9:58 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this post is A+++ and should not go unnoted.

also i love the idea that they don't do a run through of the freshmen freestyle video before they shoot it

idnfw? "i don't necessarily fuck with"? i am really throwing darts at the board with that abbreviation

labp

#aye

goddamn it fellas where's the thrread where everyone made these fucking abbreviations up so i can bookmark it thx

iotw

i wish!

idnfw this guy but look at me is indisputably one of the singles of the 10s

― ||||||||, Friday, June 22, 2018 2:35 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sad! too

"Sad!" is undeniable

No, it's deniable. Actually this guy's whole existence is deniable.

pretty sure he existed