Search and Destroy : New Order

Yeah, I suppose at the very least there is a specific gist to it.

I wonder what compelled him those handfuls of times? He never struck me as the sort to carry around a notebook. More like the sort you have to lock in the room at the end of the sessions and force to come up with something.

I'd have added "Regret" but we might be here all day.. oh wait..

Liar has some coherent / narrative lyrics.

and "Times Change" too. He was learning!

and "Special"! I love "Special" – it was like water down the drain.

I just learned that Robert Frank (RIP) directed the enigmatic, but oddly affecting "Run" video.

Huh. Had either never known or completely forgotten it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJnKf4bBEU

this is a wonderful cover

Wow.

Shares some DNA, retroactively, with "Schizophrenia."

nice, he should do a new order cover album. and i never really noticed before but his and beck's voice are quite similar.

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/98/ac/0a/98ac0a07e12212c32e9b8978bdf657b4--dream-baby-punk-rock.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xfPeQrNaoI

never thought about that second meaning that thieves could like them. bernard sumner seems pretty stoned in that interview. great performance of the song, gillian is lovely with her dress.

always figured Thieves Like Us was yet another title Joy Division or New Order just grabbed from the latest repertoire movie listings.

Yeah, I'd read that the film poster in their rehearsal space gave New Order quite a few song titles, including Thieves Like Us:

"The title (= Vanishing Point) is another culled from that faded film poster in their old rehearsal room, which provided 'In a Lonely Place' and 'Thieves Like Us'."

https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/aug/06/new-order-10-of-the-best

According to Bernard Sumner: "We did a concert in Berlin with Joy Division in this old cinema and in the dressing room there was this old, old film poster on the wall. And we stole it, and took it back to our rehearsal room and it listed every film that was going to be on for, like, the next five years at this German cinema. And every time we wanted a title, we'd look at this film poster and pick two or three titles. Like 'The Eternal' came from a film called The Eternal Flame." (Chris Ott, Joy Division's Unknown Pleasures)

That's the kind of thing that someone with enough time could get to the bottom of. In 1980 Joy Division played at Kant Kino, Berlin, so the poster was probably from there. If the internet had existed in 1980 someone could have used that information to predict future New Order song titles. It's probably not as useful now.

There is an alternative world where New Order's second album was called She's 19 and Ready, containing the classic singles "The Maddest Car in the World" and "Housewives on the Job".

By the way the Kant Kino is still going.

Komakino was probably named after the Kant Kino. The concert was a disaster as the room was only half full. The audience couldn't hear Ian sing. I like the following "dialogue":

"When a spectator shouted ,lauter, lauter‘ (louder, louder), Bernard Sumner replied: ,Speak fucking English you German bastard‘."

Dunno if this has been posted before, but... well if so, enjoy it again!

"It was supposed to be @neworder but they apparently had a row about which song to do so only @peterhook turned up - bass Peter Hook all other parts played on @Apple MAC"

https://youtu.be/HaW3GVaAzs8

when this song appeared as snippets between the video clips on the Substance VHS, I connected it to my tape deck and used the pause button to splice them into one song.

Five-night residency in Miami this week. I go tomorrow!

Yeah, I recorded that Peter Hook track on vhs from "The other side of midnight" - apparently they stopped work on it because Tony Wilson liked it.

Bernard Sumner sounds so fucking awful live now, I can't bring myself to see them again. There's a good digitally sourced version of a long version of The Happy One that circulated a while back. I think Hooky tried to get Revenge to flesh out the track and they were set to perform on the tv show, but Rob Gretton told Hooky he couldn't have Revenge do it, so PH did it himself.

yeah, iirc the Hook NO book has Revenge even turning up to the studio on the day, before Gretton stops it on behalf of the others. and Hook being infuriated-but-professional so going on solo and looking like an idiot

here he is recapturing the magic a year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdH_I-rNoq4

Such good looking chaps. Hoping to see a lot of this material released in the forthcoming PCL definite box set

I never knew this happened, weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg_i-cu95y0

Oh wow! Donald Johnson nails it. I don’t recognise some of the players, any idea?

I *think* it is New Order and ACR on stage.

maybe some Stockholm Monsters too? 52nd St? I hand brunch with Donald Johnson and Martin Moscrop once.

Factory All Stars Performance

The Tube - Live From Manchester Hacienda - 26th January 1984 including members of New Order, Quando Quango, The Wake, ACR, 52nd Street, etc) doing 'Cool As Ice', 'Shack Up', 'Confusion', and 'Love Will Tear Us Apart'."

Yeah, Madonna was on earlier promoting her third single, Holiday

Thanks for linking the longer video, visiting. That performance of Confusion is amazing!

Oh, shit, here's a performance of "Ceremony" where every member takes a turn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4NVN_uW-pc

Takes a turn singing, that is. (Back when they were a trio.)

There's the early Ceremony demo, I think Western Works? w/ Stephan on vocals...he was never gonna get the part. But I always thought Hooky's vocals on Movement were good.

still awed at how great this song is now that I've seen Barney's "making it up in the dorm room" guitar part

Merrill Aldichieri, apparently, has a ton of rare footage from Hurrah's concerts of the era and won't let any of it out into the wider world for less than top dollar, loads of ppl are kinda mad at him/her.

Bernard Sumner caught it.

“I had a little bit of a temperature, but not much. I had it for four days, then it went away for four days, and then it came back for four days. When it came back, it was more severe, but still not too bad. I just felt extreme fatigue, like a really bad hangover. Then it went away, and I’m okay.

“But I’ve heard horror stories over here about it. A couple people who know people who’ve died from it. I’m very lucky. We got a real serious second wave here. But it seems like Russian roulette. Like, you can get light symptoms, like me, or it can kill you. It’s crazy.”

I just felt extreme fatigue, like a really bad hangover

did he get the feeling he was in motion? a sudden sense of liberty?

Transmissions, a weekly podcast series telling the story of Joy Division and New Order, is currently airing, narrated by Maxine Peake and set to feature guest stars including Bono, Liam Gallagher and Damon Albarn.

no thank you

The examination of the story of JD/NO is approaching Beatles-esque levels of saturation, how much more context/interest can you extract from a bunch of truculent musicians? Most of whom have already written books already.

I was irritated this thing existed too, but it’s been enjoyable.

It's worth it for the Tony Wilson and Peter Saville clips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMIlIIvWZyU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOoyPT6RoF4

So I bought the Power Corruption and Lies box set and it comes with this goofy documentary from 1984 where Tony Wilson is naked in his bath pontificating with a clothed Gillian Gilbert also soaking in the tub. A couple times you get a glimpse of Little Tony, so there’s that off my bucket list.