^^^ totes agree with this reading.
― even in your onion (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:54 (seven years ago)
Keep in mind that lyricists of this general era were not at all subtle about treating women like objects when that was the message they were trying to convey.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:57 (seven years ago)
Good point.
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:05 (seven years ago)
LOL I forgot about "In the Summertime", I thought the problem might lie with the protagonist of "Indiana Wants Me" murdering someone for talking dirty to his wife - sticks and stones and all that.
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:15 (seven years ago)
When I was going through one of my obsessive binges on every charting single of a given year, there was one that jumped out at me (like '62 or '63) as one replete with songs about casually shooting the people in their lives over relatively minor infractions.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)
(I'm going to resist the urge to reconstruct that grammatical disaster of a sentence and trust that y'all got the general thrust.)
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:21 (seven years ago)
damn the past is a foreign country sometimes
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:32 (seven years ago)
def not voting bobby sherman because i am dead now
― Hunt3r, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:35 (seven years ago)
Bobby Sherman's continued presence in the pop charts of this era reminds me of some Clowes drawing of a grotesque-looking elderly adult gaudily dressed as a teen and fooling exactly no one.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:42 (seven years ago)
Despite hearing all of these at some point, I had never heard of Bobby Bloom - other collaborations, accidentally shooting himself at 28.
w/r/t Mungo Jerry - at about the age of 9 I understood that couplet to mean that if you were poor your father couldn't protect you.
Voting for "Indiana Wants Me" - because it sounds like a Partridge Family song, about murder.
― the higgs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:14 (seven years ago)
If her daddy's rich take her out for a mealIf her daddy's poor just do what you feel
We did go over this, and I'm not especially eager to do it again, but if the guy's saying he'll take a rich girl to dinner but do what he feels like with a not-rich girl, how do you make the leap to rape? How do go right past "She's not rich, so we'll skip dinner and just go out for a drink or a movie instead"? He's cheap, and he's found a convenient out for his cheapness. I just find it bizarre that anyone can read menace into "In the Summertime."
― clemenza, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:47 (seven years ago)
"do you go"
― clemenza, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:48 (seven years ago)
Mungo Jerry looks like a motherfucker with some dark secrets
https://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0003/762/MI0003762461.jpg?partner=allrovi.com
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:52 (seven years ago)
I wouldn’t let him take me anywhere.
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:54 (seven years ago)
Bootsie Collins is a Jerry Reed fan. He shared "Amos Moses" a few months back online.
Jerry Reed had this movie/tv persona, but he was one of the better guitar players in country music.
I love "Green Eyed Lady". That is one swanky guitar riff. The long version is the good one. To me, it's a bit like "Blinded by the Light" in that it is this pop song, but has this extended structure that circles around.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 22:38 (seven years ago)
Partridge Family has a more pedestrian beat and a less groovy arrangement than I remember.
― Jeff W, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:25 (seven years ago)
'Green-Eyed Lady' pretty unbeatable here.
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:07 (seven years ago)
"Neanderthal Man" for the sonic brilliance easy, "Green-Eyed Lady" has the braggadocio and arrangement down, but I gotta go for "Indiana Wants Me" just for the insanity of its dreamy regrets overtaken by aggro police action and shootouts. "Bye honey, I'm about to kill a bunch of people and be gunned down." The early seventies!
Bobby Sherman's galumphing always makes me laugh, and Bobby Bloom...galumphs just as hard but with better bass. Though when he busts out an _Oklahoma!_ number at the end it's a reminder he should have never have left the lounge.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:19 (seven years ago)
I genuinely don't know which of these is being singled out as THE problematic one.― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:08 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkI would've assumed 'Gypsy Woman'.― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:09 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkThat’s the OTHER one― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:13 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:08 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I would've assumed 'Gypsy Woman'.
― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:09 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That’s the OTHER one
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:13 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
What's problematic about "Gypsy Woman"? Did Curtis not get paid or something?
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 June 2018 01:24 (seven years ago)
Just the basic questionability of the term 'gypsy'.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 June 2018 02:48 (seven years ago)
Hmm, must have missed that debate.
Not sure what to vote for. More than half of these are contenders rn.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 16 June 2018 18:23 (seven years ago)
i went through this phase where i was really into deconstructed versions of '70s pop hits, like cheer-accident's version of "shaft", etc. one of the songs i was really into was thinking fellers union local 282's version of "green-eyed lady".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8TMvubo8Lo
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 June 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)
anyway they're not french but they have that fucking bassline, early '70s pop basslines are the best, so that.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 June 2018 18:44 (seven years ago)
french? danish. whatever.
Difficult group to be in
― And Nobody POLLS Like Me (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 June 2018 18:59 (seven years ago)
Sorry, wrong thread
This is as good a place as any to admit that for the longest time I thought Alive and Kicking was some secret collab between Janis Joplin & Tommy James. I think this was based off the misreading of a write-up on "Tighter, Tighter" in the Book of Rock Lists.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 16 June 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)
Tommy James wrote it, didn’t he?
― And Nobody POLLS Like Me (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 June 2018 20:20 (seven years ago)
*scrolls upthread, checks*
― And Nobody POLLS Like Me (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 June 2018 20:21 (seven years ago)
In early 1970 the band began recording sessions. A song written and produced by Tommy James, Bob King and arranged by Jimmy Wisner was to be recorded, and although James originally considered having his friends do this song - now known as "Crystal Blue Persuasion" - he liked it so much he decided to keep it for himself. As a gesture of friendship to the group he wrote "Tighter, Tighter" for them. After recording the hit song the group replaced Vito and Dave with Ronny Pell and Johnny Parisio. With the new line-up, "Tighter, Tighter" was released.
The CBP story doesn't quite wash, as it was recorded and hit a year prior to the writing and recording of "Tighter, Tighter". #TommyJamesTruther
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 16 June 2018 21:03 (seven years ago)
James recorded his own version which flopped in the mid-70s.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 16 June 2018 21:05 (seven years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 00:01 (seven years ago)
I believe lead singer of Alive and Kicking was Pepe Something.
― Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 00:39 (seven years ago)
Wow, they are still around: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alive_N_Kickin%27
― Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 00:45 (seven years ago)
Wow, one of the members, Bruce Sudano, was married to Donna Summers. Also, according to his Wikipedia page:
Alive N Kickin' did a promotional tour of the United States as the opening act for Chicago and Frank Zappa.
― Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 02:15 (seven years ago)
The strongest shit i give about this is that donna summer was just called donna summers, which is like calling pres grant “pres grants.”
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:24 (seven years ago)
James redd this is pure age bias on my part pls excuse-
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 03:27 (seven years ago)
Dang, I can’t believe I made such a typo. Please accept apologies from aging brain.
― Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 06:50 (seven years ago)
Must have been getting some noise from Match Game in there.
― Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 06:51 (seven years ago)
Also spell checker part of my brain was in Apollo 11 overload loop on whether it was Alive and KickingAlive N Kickin’Alive ‘N Kickin’
― Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 06:53 (seven years ago)
Unfortunately for the one hit by Alive and Kicking, I only hear Simple Minds every time their band name is evoked.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 10:27 (seven years ago)
I finally voted. For 'Montego Bay'. Because I figure it's good enough to get one vote.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 10:29 (seven years ago)
Regretting my vote for 'Montego Bay' rn.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:13 (seven years ago)
It has good percussion.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:32 (seven years ago)
Unfortunately, it did presage the crop of excessive 'WHOOA-OHH-OHH-OHHHH'-ing slathered all over the pop songs and commercial jingles of today.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:51 (seven years ago)
― Hunt3r
i'm calling him "president grants" from now on
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:53 (seven years ago)
"Montego Bay" invented K-Tel World Music, so a meaningful vote.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:08 (seven years ago)
Amos Moses
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 13:53 (seven years ago)
“In the Summertime” and it’s not even close. Michael Daddino says in that 1971 mixcloud thread that there was a lot of bad music released in 1971. I thought he was wrong until I heard this album and it turns out he’s right! The Melanie song is horrid! Thing is I’ve always been looking at 1971 through a rock lens (L.A. Woman, Sticky Fingers, Who’s Next, Maggot Brain). These Have a Nice Day comps are great because it’s giving me a whole side of the 70s that I never knew about. All I knew about Bobby Sherman came from that Simpsons episode where Marge admits she used to have a crush on him and Lisa makes fun of her.
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:07 (seven years ago)
Definitely in the summertime
― ya done (Ross), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 16:11 (seven years ago)
ah missed this! Would have voted for I Think I Love You or Tighter Tighter, but there’s a lot to love on this volume!
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 02:01 (seven years ago)
when i did the Bridesmaid polls i included second and third place finishes. so if you went by that for this one then it would be six. (FYI)
many xposts
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 02:20 (seven years ago)
I'll see about that, but remember this is a 25-Volume series, so with ties, it won't be feasible to include both on a 50 nom ballot.
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 03:22 (seven years ago)
good point. Just Can't Get Enough was 15 Volumes and that took 37 selections. you would probably have to run two.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 03:51 (seven years ago)
I'd never heard of "Amos Moses" and "Green-Eyed Lady" before this poll. Seems like most of the American songs on these collections made no impression on this side of the Atlantic.
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 08:58 (seven years ago)
I wouldn't doubt it. Seems like it was much easier breaking Brit one-offs over here (see: the career of Tony Burrows) than vice-versa. Did Jerry Reed have any visibility across the pond prior to his movie career (and even then, was there an audience for his films over there)?
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:48 (seven years ago)
I hope all of the people who've just now been exposed to 'Green Eyed Lady' for the first time are non-Americans who've never heard a lick of classic pop radio. Otherwise I don't know how that's even possible.
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:55 (seven years ago)
But I'm jealous of you, whatever the circumstances!
― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:56 (seven years ago)
Super Hits of The 70s: Have A Nice Day, Vol. 4
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 14:08 (seven years ago)
Did Jerry Reed have any visibility across the pond prior to his movie career (and even then, was there an audience for his films over there)?
What films? Also, Jerry Who?
― We can be herpes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 16:11 (seven years ago)
in my house, yes
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:00 (seven years ago)
https://youtu.be/Ni8KBhnebwE
― earlnash, Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:06 (seven years ago)
Get thee to a Smokey and the Bandit, Tom. It's a good time.
― Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:30 (seven years ago)
Jerry Reed seems like the funnest guy ever, imo.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:36 (seven years ago)
Jerry Who? Jerry Lou
― Uncle Redd in the Zingtime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:38 (seven years ago)
JER’REED
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:40 (seven years ago)
Ah, Wikipedia:
The song tells the story of a one-armed Cajun alligator hunter named Amos Moses, who was "named after a man of the cloth," son of Doc and Hanna Milsap, who lives "about 45 minutes southeast of Thibodaux, Louisiana" (which, at the rate of a mile per minute, would be near Galliano, Louisiana),
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 June 2018 03:41 (seven years ago)