Do I like modern kanye? Not really. But I don't have to like someone unequivocally or find them morally sound to like what they make (its hip hop after all). He's always been someone wildly inconsistent in his views.
none of the good hatchet jobs we've posted have made his claim. They go out of their way to point out, "This is shitty music."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:00 (six years ago) link
his = this
None of the hatchet jobs manage to convey that successfully, though, and are full of lazy ad hominem attacks. It's also getting a bit funny to see the weird arguments as to why Daytona and Kids See Ghosts are full of great production choices, while ye is absolutely nothing of the sort.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:34 (six years ago) link
It is true that the reviews should've pointed out that he's sucked since 2010.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:39 (six years ago) link
2016
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:41 (six years ago) link
"This is shitty music."
If that's all they were saying they would still be wrong. Because it isn't. Even kanye rushing an album where he's in his current troll mode still makes for music better and more interesting than most. So the reviews in their eagerness to virtue signal position the writer as moral police and just appear desperate to let you know how terrible a person kanye is which could be true but terrible ppl still make compelling if wildly flawed music. Kanye is a Brett Easton Ellis fan and clearly in love with cool vacuity. he aspires to it. And the last few albums are part of his quest to embody that. And incriminating of popular cultures love of those things. But they are more than that as kanye will never be that easy to pin down, hard as it might be to believe. And even if you hate the kanye persona - a reaction he courts - I find it impossible to reject the music. Which no matter who helped make it, is still his. So in my eyes he has yet to fall off. This is still peak kanye.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link
what albums are virtue signaling pans because everything listed on Metacritic (except my review) is glowingly in favor of Kids See Ghost
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:32 (six years ago) link
*reviews
So the reviews in their eagerness to virtue signal position the writer as moral police and just appear desperate to let you know how terrible a person kanye is which could be true but terrible ppl still make compelling if wildly flawed music
As shown by the enthusiasm for the Cudi and Pusha T albums (and I include Pusha among the Terrible People).
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:38 (six years ago) link
all musicians are terrible peoplelook what they do to those poor instruments
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:29 (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao fuck off
― imago, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:00 (six years ago) link
"Kanye is a Brett Easton Ellis fan"
this is basically an ad hom
― lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link
Kanye is a Brett Easton Ellis fan and clearly in love with cool vacuity. he aspires to it.
lmao
― maura, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link
what about the vacuous men, who will speak for the vacuous men
― maura, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link
7 deadly sins pic.twitter.com/YczOcBEMdY— KANYE WEST (@kanyewest) June 11, 2018
Is StillAdvance a new user who only came to stan for peak Kanye?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:03 (six years ago) link
no he's had shitty opinions for years
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link
“Virtue signaling” is the worst phrase
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link
JoeCuck
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link
I don't like Fantano or Ye or Kid Cudi but I think Kids See Ghosts is a very good album.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link
I was hoping for the best from the new Kanye album, I did not have a hot takedown ready to go, I wanted to like it, and as I listened to "I Thought About Killing You Today" for the first time, I posted on this thread, "This is good." Then I heard the rest of the album. It's fucking boring and dull as dishwater. Poop-di-scoop had the best beat of any of these songs. Album fucking blows because it is boring and uninteresting. IMO of course. er, IMHO. (humble opinion)
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link
Yeah I like "Lift Yourself" better than anything on Ye.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:34 (six years ago) link
I keep getting reminded of the passage from that Chuck Klosterman book about villains when he wonders what it will be like when Kanye finally releases a disaster of an album and how the conversations/dialogue it generates are worth more than the music itself.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link
breteastonellis.gif
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link
Everyone says you’re the best and you believe it. Look at Scott walker - his last 2 records suckwhat?? I hope you're not talking about Soused and Bish Bosch. Love both esp the sunn collab
― gman59, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link
Gave this a second chance today. Kids See Ghosts and 4th Dimension are better than anything on TLOP or Ye, the rest has some good draft ideas that go nowhere production-wise. I’m not paying attention to the lyrics.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link
I suppose I'm also not really hearing the lyrics lol
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 20:29 (six years ago) link
The music is not bad per se, it's boring with lazy, unoriginal beat production, and that constitutes "bad" to me in a relative sense. It's not like his lyrics, message or attitude conveyed with the music itself are making up for the "meh" everywhere else. In fact it's exacerbating it.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
Seriously throw on pretty much anything from Late Registration and tell me this shit's on par in any facet
― octobeard, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link
lmao Kanye and Kim appeared on Celebrity Family Feud and lost, but Kanye really wanted to do the fast money so they just let him
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:32 (six years ago) link
can someone who finds any moment of Kids See Ghost redeemable like, write about it a bit? i don't hear anything there..
― flopson, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link
track 3 is classic sample-chop Kanye and track 4 is classic baroque arrangement Kanye. That's about all I really ride for here.
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link
My problem with it and everything Kid Cudi does is that he sounds as bored of himself as I am of him.
― Lemon Kitten (Dan.S.), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link
Track 4 is the “I CAN STILL BILLILUP RATATATAT” one? can’t abide by it. Track 3 is ok
― flopson, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link
Track 4 is the one that has that imbecilic, “free” chorus? It’s annoying.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link
If Childish Gambino started a song with a Marcus Garvey sample and had “I’m freeee” in the chorus, people would be lining up to give him a Nobel Prize
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:58 (six years ago) link
That song is great
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:59 (six years ago) link
Yeah well, Gambino has more charisma in one fingernail than Kanye in his entire body.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link
I hate this timeline
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 01:27 (five years ago) link
I can agree with that
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 01:52 (five years ago) link
kids see ghosts is pure crap, all the music nerds on the web have lost their fucking minds
― imago, Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link
it is maybe slightly better than Ye, which is all the praise I'm willing to give it
― imago, Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:26 (five years ago) link
I don't get Kids With Ghosts either.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 14 June 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link
cool fans, bra
Like many forum regulars, 24-year-old Mikey Vercetti of Danville, Virginia, believes Kanye gets a bad rap and sees the backlash to his Trump comments as part of a pattern. “People weren’t trying to see it from his point of view or learn where he was coming from when he said it,” Vercetti tells me. “A lot of people have to have something to be mad about. They see things and they go, ‘OK, we gotta cancel Kanye.’ But they didn’t think beyond that.”
Vercetti discovered the Kanye to The forum about four years ago while searching for fashion inspiration and gradually got sucked into its culture. “KTT is how I learned to troll people,” he says. “I’ll say something, and if you get mad about it it’s not my fault. You’re the one mad about it. That’s how a lot of people on the forum post.” He’s gotten so used to trolling, he says, that he’s started doing it offline, too. “You know how Kanye said the slavery thing with no context? A lot of times I say things now in real life with no context just to get a rise.”
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
Using 'cancel' that way has rapidly become a warning sign for me.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, June 12, 2018 8:22 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmfao
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
very on brand ill give you that
w/r/t Nasir: "Adam & Eve" is fantastic, "Bonjour" made me mad at myself for clicking the livestream because it's so gross
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 June 2018 10:39 (five years ago) link
Gman - my post about walker was when drunk and I meant drift N here comes the ball, clearly I forgot about the last two. I’m more of a fan of his earlier work and find his new stuff unlistenable but I loved the doc which just made it seem funny to me. I have no place saying or sucks tho it’s just not for me
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link
all of these kanye-produced mini-albums are gross and shit. self-obsessed bad music that fuckheads everywhere are proclaiming the future of rap. gnomic bombast is not innovation, it's the strop of a cunt who fears being irrelevant
― imago, Friday, 15 June 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link