giving this a 7.1 is such a cop out
― frogbs, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link
should've given it a 6.9
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:17 (six years ago) link
Even “free-thinkers” know nothing really comes for free.
p4k so trenchant
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link
there was a time when pfork wasn't terrified of giving a failing grade to an album made by a brilliant pop artist who refused to stop talking out of their ass
That time being February 2018 when Justin Timberlake released Man of the Woods.
― MarkoP, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link
this album is sooooooo much worse than TLOP, which was bloated for sure, but as I said elsewhere, you can make an awesome 7 or even 10 song album out of it.
― flappy bird, Monday, 4 June 2018 16:21 (six years ago) link
I haven't listened to it yet so I can't compare it with Man of the Woods (which I made it about 75% through and yeeesh). But I wonder if the discrepancy is because Justin Timberlake is not from Chicago and they are afraid of running afoul of the local boy done good?
― how's life, Monday, 4 June 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
Well it did take them to only just a few weeks ago to apologize for having R Kelly headline Pitchfork Fest in 2013.
― MarkoP, Monday, 4 June 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link
The album is 24 mins.? LOL
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Monday, 4 June 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link
the album is actually the extended, fixed version of Wolvesp
― mh, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link
damn typos jumping into my bad jokes
lmao
― flappy bird, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link
is p4k even still that conscious of their Chicago roots? they're primarily based in NYC yeah? in the WTC
― flappy bird, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link
― how's life, Monday, 4 June 2018 16:55 (fifty-seven minutes ago) Permalink
Keep reading those tea leaves ..
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 4 June 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link
MAYA >>>>> Ye
― ufo, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:08 (six years ago) link
yeah M.I.A. was vindicated with most of what she was saying on that record iirc, not a fair comparison at all
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:10 (six years ago) link
maya was a good record at the time, and that review was garbage at the time
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link
sorry, i'm v tired, i also meant to imply these things are still true
clicked that link specifically in search of the cheap spectacle of presnowden cultural sophisticates sneering at m.i.a.'s saying google was "connected to the government", while declining to specify in exactly what way the "issue" was more "complex" than that, but i was wrong. what the issue is is nuanced:
Sugu's intro track "The Message" is the worst thing on an album of failed experiments-- a bad demo with a simplistic, paranoid rap that's as rhetorically effective as someone in a dorm room ranting about the C.I.A. inventing A.I.D.S. It's not the best idea to kick off your politically charged album with a song that demolishes the possibility of addressing a serious issue about privacy with any degree of depth or nuance.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 04:36 (six years ago) link
We could have ended up talking about redneck rock or progressive country or even armadillo country, after the tenacious rodent that became the movement’s unofficial mascot.
armadillos aren't rodents
stopped reading.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link
guess the conde nast umbrella doesn't get them any of the crack new yorker fact-checker time
― j., Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link
dillogaze
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
purest armadillotantism
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link
Man, when I read stuff like the YOB review it really ticks me off that they generally only hand out, on average, one metal BNM a year. (They already gave one to Sleep so I guess that's their quota reached.)
― Simon H., Friday, 8 June 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link
and none of their metal writers are as high up as stosuy was so the chances of any of those being another deafheaven are... hmm
― lowercase (eric), Friday, 8 June 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link
https://cdn.ipetitions.com/user-images/petitions/end-discrimination-against-tattoos-and-piercings/rZ2H6zQCROyjNMJFI6sx_humantats.png
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 June 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/brian-eno-here-come-the-warm-jets-taking-tiger-mountain-by-strategy-before-and-after-science
In an otherwise pretty great overview of Eno's four classic art pop albums, Another Green World (arguably his pinnacle) gets half a sentence of space. WTF?
― doug watson, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:31 (five years ago) link
Not sure if it matters, but Another Green World wasn't actually billed in the title of the review.
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:39 (five years ago) link
Fair enough but why the decision to review only three of four reissued albums?
― doug watson, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:49 (five years ago) link
There's a separate, long review of AGW linked in the opening para
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 01:25 (five years ago) link
Right, but it's written by a different author, which reduces the effectiveness of a critical overview by a single voice. And by giving minimal mention to AGW in the review of the other three, the effect is pretty much dismissive. Was it really a big deal to have more than one opinion of AGW on the site? Apparently so.
― doug watson, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 10:07 (five years ago) link
fair call. And let's not forget that Pitchfork is dumb, after all.Of course the best AGW take is from Geeta.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 12:07 (five years ago) link
The 33.3 book? Yes, that's fantastic.
― doug watson, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link
Haven't heard the sophie record yet, but I am shocked that pc music are getting bnm's in 2018
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 15 June 2018 05:31 (five years ago) link
Well clearly you haven’t spent much time in the Chari XCX thread
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Friday, 15 June 2018 06:54 (five years ago) link
xp “Charli”. Damn.
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Friday, 15 June 2018 06:55 (five years ago) link
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, June 15, 2018 5:31 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is such a lame take
― imago, Friday, 15 June 2018 07:08 (five years ago) link
So..that Rolling Blackouts review. If i had to guess the score only by the review i would say at least 9. But it's 8.1. I think they just throw random numbers between 8-10 for a "good album"
― nostormo, Friday, 15 June 2018 11:06 (five years ago) link
Maya is such a twisted and inspired record. Too bad the last one was literally made for cash at her admission
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link
yeah, the recent KKB stuff has been great too
― Simon H., Friday, 15 June 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link
still recall sometimes the authenticity wars of the pc music thread, and how completely fucking idiotic it all was
― imago, Friday, 15 June 2018 13:43 (five years ago) link
Aren't most authenticity wars idiotic?
― MarkoP, Friday, 15 June 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link
well yeah
― imago, Friday, 15 June 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link
I am shocked that pc music are getting bnm's in 2018
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, June 14, 2018 10:31 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
they’ve always liked them
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link
i think it’s rich to characterize that convo as “authenticity wars” but ymmv
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 15 June 2018 13:50 (five years ago) link
Well, why do I like it as music, then? I think it's gorgeous.
― the discussions, the slanging matches, the banter, the lot (imago), Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:14 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's spelled "bourgeois"
― lil dork (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:50 AM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 June 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link
Have they? I mean they've promoted them and written articles about them, but aside from a few Sophie tracks, they've never really given the stuff Best New Music.
― MarkoP, Friday, 15 June 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link
I just feel like Pitchfork's response to PC Music was more muted than one would expect.
― MarkoP, Friday, 15 June 2018 15:03 (five years ago) link
i just feel like the trajectory was pretty apparent. also charli counts
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 15 June 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link
Pitchfork showed considerable enthusiasm about PC Music for the first few months of their breakthrough in 2014, then soured pretty hard around the same time things got contentious on ilx. Now all that discourse(tm) has cooled and some PC acts have legit pop credits to their name, they’ve come back around. Seems pretty straightforward.
Also haha I thought someone was quoting Whiney as an example of how absurd the discussion got but no that was just Whiney going “this was my take” like yeah, I could’ve guessed he was in the fray
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link
lol Whiney
― flopson, Friday, 15 June 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link