Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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As a private citizen it's one thing, as a defender of a private-transit profiteer...

― Simon H.

uh she’s still a private citizen(?)

― i’m still stanning (morrisp)

making public statements

flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 05:07 (six years ago) link

Thank you

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 05:07 (six years ago) link

haha, she never said she was skeeved out by poor people, that was y’all putting words in her mouth!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 05:11 (six years ago) link

Honestly I have zero investment in Grimes, who she dates, or what opinions she holds, but it’s absurd that she or anyone would be demonized for anything she said in that (quite mild) series of tweets

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 05:15 (six years ago) link

making public statements

And when you say something on Twitter you become an official representative of what exactly?

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 05:17 (six years ago) link

nothing. but criticism of a public statement in a public forum is fair game obv

flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 05:26 (six years ago) link

I agree completely, but read Simon as implyig that being a “defender of a private-transit profiteer” made her something other than just an online person w/an opinion that you may or may not agree with (like any other)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 05:28 (six years ago) link

ya you guys are conflating la and vancouver public transportation which are two incredibly different beasts

it's true the b-line is super crowded but she isn't suggesting musk's loop as a solution to that

the loop is a solution to la transit which has other problems

for starters, i've heard the loop is like a "personal car," meaning you ride by yourself. he's calling them pods and the loop will transport 16 people at a time

thing is you get limited surface (ground level) space to wait to get into that pod. so it might take 5 minutes to get to your destination, but waiting to get inside it takes like 5 times that

right now the 2-mile stretch will cover an affluent area of the westside down to, i guess by la standards, more of a middle-class neighbourhood

elon musk is trying to get around the city of los angeles doing an eir (environmental impact review) because building tunnels in such close proximity to fault lines require a lot of research and exact building procedures. this research alone takes 3-4 years, yet he's saying he can build the whole thing by late this year, and he says he can build miles and miles of tunnels soon without public money

the details on how he is going to build the thing are so incredibly vague, that people are questioning whether he even knows what he's doing

here is the video of the "info session" he had in la, which provided very little detail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwX9G38vdCE

and another vague news report: http://abc7.com/traffic/elon-musk-holds-rare-town-hall-to-address-la-tunnel-concerns/3490021/

anyway, i guess we should take it to the musk thread

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 05:41 (six years ago) link

okay, i just saw the car, and it actually looks like a car, and it sits 16 people -- 21:00 in the video

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 05:51 (six years ago) link

Didn’t a reporter ask how much it would cost to get from Van Nuys to LAX, and Musk replied, “Like, a dollar.”?

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 05:56 (six years ago) link

fare is $1, as shown in the video, even from dtla to lax

but i mean, this is all conceptual stuff. he's footing the bill for the 2.7-mile loop under the 405

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 06:01 (six years ago) link

the details for that tunnel start at 28:00

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 06:03 (six years ago) link

this is now the dumbest thread on ilx

there must be a musk thread where you can criticize him and his stupid company

niels, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 06:44 (six years ago) link

This is a truly insane thread

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 08:18 (six years ago) link

Anyway, I agree w/flopson that that tweet above is peak bad-Twitter, as it’s basically saying that the political trumps the personal.

― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 11:17 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It’s also bad bc it is incoherent. “As a victim of abuse I disagree with grimes politics of public transit”

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 08:19 (six years ago) link

https://imgur.com/gallery/vndnv

Cousin Slappy, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 09:38 (six years ago) link

But why pay union dues & make next grimes album tidal exclusive for nothing?

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 12:31 (six years ago) link

It’s also bad bc it is incoherent. “As a victim of abuse I disagree with grimes politics of public transit”

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:19 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh good i was wondering why i reread that tweet like 30 fucking times

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 12:41 (six years ago) link

ok glad that we can agree that criticizing grimes' politics is in poor taste but functional illiteracy in the service of ripping to shreds a rando on twitter is appropriate.

carles danger maus (s.clover), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link

that's definitely what i was saying

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link

thread keeps going from strength to strength, great work team

so how about that upcoming grimes album

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

i'm looking forward to it

nxd, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link

ditto!

carles danger maus (s.clover), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:57 (six years ago) link

I hear she's doing a sequel to 2112

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:58 (six years ago) link

this will be Grimes' Caress of Steel

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:06 (six years ago) link

Pardon a "chime in" but the internet's response to Grimes x Musk has boiled over in my kitchen and turned into calcified anger

Any "it is important for our faves to be non-problematic" narrative is completely idiotic and just masking bald-faced toxic-fan entitlement to Grimes' body-autonomy

She should be and is allowed to date whomever she pleases without it having any effect on her capacity to make and sell records and tickets

I hope she is having bomb sex and romantic dinners with her gross rich boyfriend and I can't wait for her new album

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:11 (six years ago) link

agreed; also i hope elon musk dies in a burning building

cr.ht (crüt), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:13 (six years ago) link

That doesn't make any poetic sense tho

He should either die in space or be hit by a bus

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:17 (six years ago) link

murdered by the Martian bus drivers’ union

Elonio Grimesci (wins), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link

the grimes body-autonomy defense strike force has logged on

carles danger maus (s.clover), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link

cap'n save-a-capacity-to-sell-tickets reporting for duty

carles danger maus (s.clover), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link

This thread is bonkers.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link

Lads.

Music is confidence (Ross), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvanzhR6ok

flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link

this thread was the best of grimes, it was the worst of grimes

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link

infinite love without fulfillment

flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link

come on guys if Bill Maher can date Ann Coulter, surely any hatchet can be buried at least long enough to have bomb sex

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link

haha, she never said she was skeeved out by poor people, that was y’all putting words in her mouth!

I will give you ten guesses as to what "sketchy" is usually code for and the first nine don't count.

THERE IS NO PHIL D. THERE IS ONLY LIZ (Phil D.), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link

Pardon a "chime in" but the internet's response to Grimes x Musk has boiled over in my kitchen and turned into calcified anger

Any "it is important for our faves to be non-problematic" narrative is completely idiotic and just masking bald-faced toxic-fan entitlement to Grimes' body-autonomy

She should be and is allowed to date whomever she pleases without it having any effect on her capacity to make and sell records and tickets

I hope she is having bomb sex and romantic dinners with her gross rich boyfriend and I can't wait for her new album

― nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:11 AM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well it's one thing she is dating Elon Musk, which I'm cool with whatever floats her boats down the Mississippi river, but when she is actively defending union-busting and ripping into public transport she is fair game as any other artist.

It's not hard to imagine similar situations with similar reactions. For example, if the dude from the War on Drugs started defending the IDF's recent actions in Gaza, it would be very fair to criticize him on that. If a famous hip-hop artist started wearing a MAGA baseball cap, it would be very fair to criticize him on that... Now it's up to anyone to decide if that affects their views of Grimes and it's up to anyone to decide how they respond to the upcoming record and tour. So it follows that it's up to anyone to decide how they respond to an artist's problematic views or actions and the idea that their sales shouldn't be affected is kinda gross in general.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

thread keeps going from strength to strength, great work team

― i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 7:48 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just wanna reiterate this folks

we rounded up a skilled team, brought our A game to drill down on core deliverables and put together actionable strategic staircase where the rubber meets the road

let's hear it for team infinity

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link

David

flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:09 (six years ago) link

I will give you ten guesses as to what "sketchy" is usually code for and the first nine don't count.

She said “it’s hella overcrowded, late, sketchy in most cities I’ve lived in” – you read “sketchy” as “full of poor people”?

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link

true, she could have meant "brown people"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:37 (six years ago) link

based on my experience of Americans talking about buses, yes

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link

in los angeles, i've noticed people definitely using that line of argument

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link

"sketchy" is absolutely a code word

flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

ime

flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

yeah her use of sketchy is sketchy to say the least

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link

this is a very bad thread

gbx, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link


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