I've got to be honest, way before Facebookgate what pushed me away from that platform was too many of my friends self promoting. I mean, I get it, and I like their work (writing and whatnot), but a lot of it felt sort of obligatory and impersonal, like a press release crossed with clickbait. In the case of several writers I know, they definitely were getting pressure from editors to self promote.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link
yeah, another side effect of sites no longer prioritizing landing pages/repeat subscribers/etc. is that writers have to make up the slack by self-promoting. it sucks and most people hate it but so it goes
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:11 (six years ago) link
i have a few friends who have gone dark w/their personal Facebook and have instead shifted into their professional self-promotion Facebook pages, which means i have no idea how their kids are but hey, i've learned a bit about how i can make my business work for me or how to make a hibiscus cocktail.
― omar little, Friday, 18 May 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link
Wrongest thread for it but congrats on this and your previous XYZZYs Katherine I had no idea! I’m a big fan of IF but haven’t been keeping tabs on new work over the last few years
― nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago
Totally understand this, and I've had to readjust my own sense of what's proper self-promotion vs shamelessness. It's hammered into you as a journalist. But, to quote Aladdin, it's a whole new world.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:30 (six years ago) link
Returning to actual Pitchfork content for a second, there's so much stretching going on in today's review of the new Gas album that I worry the writer may have sprained something.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:38 (six years ago) link
7.8 for mary lattimore is tooo low
― flappy bird, Friday, 18 May 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link
that record is fucking amazing
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 18 May 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link
(going back a bit but i really disliked that janelle monae piece because it - like the syd piece the author wrote a year or two back - was rooted in the writer engaging way more with her wanting a mirror for her own (recently realized) queerness than with the things monae was saying. which seems like the blinkered narcisissm that the dazed author decried elsewhere in their piece!)
― maura, Friday, 18 May 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link
nobody wanted my mental health awareness week pitch about paying freelancers on time x— Joanna Jo-Jo-Joanna (@FUERTESKNIGHT) May 17, 2018
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 18 May 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
Garvey's Kanye review is great but when there are tons of records with really enthusiastic reviews getting the same score it kinda just backs up the weird idea people have that anything under an 8.0 or whatever is bad
― devvvine, Monday, 4 June 2018 09:16 (five years ago) link
they def got the score wrong on that one
― niels, Monday, 4 June 2018 09:35 (five years ago) link
there was a time when pfork wasn't terrified of giving a failing grade to an album made by a brilliant pop artist who refused to stop talking out of their ass:
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14434-y/
― evol j, Monday, 4 June 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link
the silent admission here is that ye isn't too far from tlop, which i'm sure they feel they overrated (jayson greene's personal enthusiasm aside), or at least can't be extricated narratively from the new one
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link
giving this a 7.1 is such a cop out
― frogbs, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link
should've given it a 6.9
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link
Even “free-thinkers” know nothing really comes for free.
p4k so trenchant
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link
there was a time when pfork wasn't terrified of giving a failing grade to an album made by a brilliant pop artist who refused to stop talking out of their ass
That time being February 2018 when Justin Timberlake released Man of the Woods.
― MarkoP, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
this album is sooooooo much worse than TLOP, which was bloated for sure, but as I said elsewhere, you can make an awesome 7 or even 10 song album out of it.
― flappy bird, Monday, 4 June 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link
I haven't listened to it yet so I can't compare it with Man of the Woods (which I made it about 75% through and yeeesh). But I wonder if the discrepancy is because Justin Timberlake is not from Chicago and they are afraid of running afoul of the local boy done good?
― how's life, Monday, 4 June 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
Well it did take them to only just a few weeks ago to apologize for having R Kelly headline Pitchfork Fest in 2013.
― MarkoP, Monday, 4 June 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link
The album is 24 mins.? LOL
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Monday, 4 June 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
the album is actually the extended, fixed version of Wolvesp
― mh, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
damn typos jumping into my bad jokes
lmao
― flappy bird, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
is p4k even still that conscious of their Chicago roots? they're primarily based in NYC yeah? in the WTC
― flappy bird, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
― how's life, Monday, 4 June 2018 16:55 (fifty-seven minutes ago) Permalink
Keep reading those tea leaves ..
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 4 June 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
MAYA >>>>> Ye
― ufo, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:08 (five years ago) link
yeah M.I.A. was vindicated with most of what she was saying on that record iirc, not a fair comparison at all
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link
maya was a good record at the time, and that review was garbage at the time
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:34 (five years ago) link
sorry, i'm v tired, i also meant to imply these things are still true
clicked that link specifically in search of the cheap spectacle of presnowden cultural sophisticates sneering at m.i.a.'s saying google was "connected to the government", while declining to specify in exactly what way the "issue" was more "complex" than that, but i was wrong. what the issue is is nuanced:
Sugu's intro track "The Message" is the worst thing on an album of failed experiments-- a bad demo with a simplistic, paranoid rap that's as rhetorically effective as someone in a dorm room ranting about the C.I.A. inventing A.I.D.S. It's not the best idea to kick off your politically charged album with a song that demolishes the possibility of addressing a serious issue about privacy with any degree of depth or nuance.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 04:36 (five years ago) link
We could have ended up talking about redneck rock or progressive country or even armadillo country, after the tenacious rodent that became the movement’s unofficial mascot.
armadillos aren't rodents
stopped reading.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
guess the conde nast umbrella doesn't get them any of the crack new yorker fact-checker time
― j., Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link
dillogaze
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link
purest armadillotantism
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link
Man, when I read stuff like the YOB review it really ticks me off that they generally only hand out, on average, one metal BNM a year. (They already gave one to Sleep so I guess that's their quota reached.)
― Simon H., Friday, 8 June 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link
and none of their metal writers are as high up as stosuy was so the chances of any of those being another deafheaven are... hmm
― lowercase (eric), Friday, 8 June 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
https://cdn.ipetitions.com/user-images/petitions/end-discrimination-against-tattoos-and-piercings/rZ2H6zQCROyjNMJFI6sx_humantats.png
― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 June 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/brian-eno-here-come-the-warm-jets-taking-tiger-mountain-by-strategy-before-and-after-science
In an otherwise pretty great overview of Eno's four classic art pop albums, Another Green World (arguably his pinnacle) gets half a sentence of space. WTF?
― doug watson, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:31 (five years ago) link
Not sure if it matters, but Another Green World wasn't actually billed in the title of the review.
― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:39 (five years ago) link
Fair enough but why the decision to review only three of four reissued albums?
― doug watson, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:49 (five years ago) link
There's a separate, long review of AGW linked in the opening para
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 01:25 (five years ago) link
Right, but it's written by a different author, which reduces the effectiveness of a critical overview by a single voice. And by giving minimal mention to AGW in the review of the other three, the effect is pretty much dismissive. Was it really a big deal to have more than one opinion of AGW on the site? Apparently so.
― doug watson, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 10:07 (five years ago) link
fair call. And let's not forget that Pitchfork is dumb, after all.Of course the best AGW take is from Geeta.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 12:07 (five years ago) link
The 33.3 book? Yes, that's fantastic.
― doug watson, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link
Haven't heard the sophie record yet, but I am shocked that pc music are getting bnm's in 2018
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 15 June 2018 05:31 (five years ago) link
Well clearly you haven’t spent much time in the Chari XCX thread
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Friday, 15 June 2018 06:54 (five years ago) link
xp “Charli”. Damn.
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Friday, 15 June 2018 06:55 (five years ago) link
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, June 15, 2018 5:31 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is such a lame take
― imago, Friday, 15 June 2018 07:08 (five years ago) link