Floating Points
Also never got very far with Hopkins, Arca or Actress for that matter. Filed under "not for me".
Probably stating the obvious but with so much electronic music out there anything that achieves a self-sustaining level of visibility is likely to be relatively 'overrated' to some degree, even if it is actually very good. With a concomitent amount of stuff being underrated, or as is more likely hardly heard at all.
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Friday, 11 May 2018 19:03 (eight years ago)
I remember hearing Papa New Guinea and thinking it was pretty cool. was a bit crestfallen to find out right after that it was their big track
― frogbs, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:03 (eight years ago)
my intro to FSOL was via We Have Explosive. still love that one. also FSOL was my entry into Dead Can Dance via that PNG sample.
― omar little, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:06 (eight years ago)
Tried to listen to Lifedorms recently and CBA with it. Their reworkings of that prog band (um, Syd Arthur) as Amorphous Androgynous a couple of years ago was OK. Playing to their strengths.
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Friday, 11 May 2018 19:06 (eight years ago)
Apt typo ;-)
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Friday, 11 May 2018 19:07 (eight years ago)
I was hugely into Papua New Guinea in the mid-90s, had the single and played it a lot, but never listened to anything else by FSOL until the 00s. Dunno why! I remember walking into a club as a student and PNG was playing and I had to find out who it was, luckily one of my friends knew it. This would've been at least 2 years after it came out tho, I was never really on the pulse with dance/electronic music, then or now tbh.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:09 (eight years ago)
stakker humanoid is fsol too amirite? cos that is v klassic
― i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 11 May 2018 19:10 (eight years ago)
def! that's right up my street that one.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:11 (eight years ago)
FSOL was kind of big for a minute thanks to AMP, they received a lot of play on there. So did Adam F and Mocean Worker and others of that ilk. best show ever.
― omar little, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:12 (eight years ago)
papa new guinea is an incredible track, up there w 808 state “pacific”speaking of which ... never really got into much 808 beyond that beside ”flow coma” and “narcossa”
― the late great, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:12 (eight years ago)
My controp is electronic music just keeps getting better. Drop the old canon of aphex- boc. Autechre
Create Yr own canon
― Ross, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:12 (eight years ago)
i would agree w/r/t bobbins, not so much w/r/t idm
― the late great, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:15 (eight years ago)
Best Herbert is scale
― Ross, Friday, May 11, 2018 12:55 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Agreed. Scale is one of my favorite albums!
― Evan, Friday, May 11, 2018 2:32 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not to be all drug bro but listening to this on acid with a friend and both of us gradually getting super creeped out by the dread underlying the bright disco surface of the album was a really memorable listening experience
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 11 May 2018 19:18 (eight years ago)
Future Sounds of London are so overrated.
each to their own, but this is so wrong.
― mark e, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:21 (eight years ago)
Nah man I see you xpost
― Ross, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:21 (eight years ago)
xp i had the same type of experience listening to phish
― the late great, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:22 (eight years ago)
re FSOL - I've never listened to anything later than Dead Cities, and I've heard that the later stuff is a bit shit? could that be the reason for the negativity, Moka did say late 90s/early 00s.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:24 (eight years ago)
That’s when I started listening in. 1999 forwards, of course I listened to their previous record but that scene was nearing its expiry date by the early 00s. Again that’s just my pov. For someone older than me they were probably amazing back in the 90s
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 11 May 2018 19:29 (eight years ago)
re FSOL - I've never listened to anything later than Dead Cities,
FSOL have not released another album of new material since that one (not incl. the various archive releases).the other albums were released under their AA moniker which is a very different vibe - 60s psych etc.
― mark e, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:32 (eight years ago)
Looks like The Isness was a Future Sound Of London release in the US?
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Friday, 11 May 2018 19:40 (eight years ago)
To everyone to responded to me earlier: thank you - I completely agree! Really getting a kick out of reading this thread.
I started a Top 50 Most Properly Rated TechnoRavers thread if anyone wants to help me. Pretend it's '94, you're working at a record store, and a 14-year-old comes in with a Smashing Pumpkins shirt on talking about the Pavement Cut Your Hair video on MTV and wants to know more about that kind of music. Except, you know, electronic music.
― SA, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:42 (eight years ago)
yeah, this was a mess of a release.they were forced to add the FSOL name to the release I believe in order to get it released.but its an AA album.
― mark e, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:44 (eight years ago)
FSOL have not released another album of new material since that one
what are all these "Environments" albums? archival stuff? there's a load of stuff on discogs.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:57 (eight years ago)
officially they are archive releases.though I believe one of them was supposedly new material.
― mark e, Friday, 11 May 2018 20:01 (eight years ago)
some of the early ravey FSOL stuff is awesome. indo tribe, mental cube, "PNG" of course..
― brimstead, Friday, 11 May 2018 20:02 (eight years ago)
papa new guinea is an incredible track, up there w 808 state “pacific”two things i always get mixed up.
― lana del boy (ledge), Friday, 11 May 2018 20:03 (eight years ago)
"pacific" is, like, my theme song
― brimstead, Friday, 11 May 2018 20:04 (eight years ago)
FSOL's "Stolen Documents" (I think? It's on Robbie Hardkiss's Mixed Messages mix) is a great early track from them.Accelerator generally is pretty great, though not Frequencies or early Black Dog level.
― Tim F, Friday, 11 May 2018 20:47 (eight years ago)
yeah that’s a good one!it’s the b side on the png single iirc
― the late great, Friday, 11 May 2018 21:01 (eight years ago)
If you cut things off at about 1994 so much of the early work of (mostly UK) artists who generally are considered IDM or electronica just sounds like great, smart techno.
― Tim F, Friday, 11 May 2018 21:14 (eight years ago)
yeah true
― the late great, Friday, 11 May 2018 21:14 (eight years ago)
Jon Hopkins' music does sound like iPhone commercial music (the consonance, tonality and epicness of it), but it does sound good - various rehashing of "Open Eye Signal" - the synthesizer sounds fat/immediate/saturated (filter cutoff gimmick esp.), timbrally sweet. The timbres are sometimes dry and magnified, the rhythms flow easy, and it has that stretching, pulling effect. For the average Radiohead fan, it could be a revelation--roughly the equivalent of somebody beginning to 'recognize' the quality of Autechre's music, but in one shot. It wears thin pretty quickly.
The Campfire Headphase is overrated? I thought that people equated it to Starbucks dining room music.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 11 May 2018 21:22 (eight years ago)
Kelly Lee OwensM83LCD SoundsystemJames Blake
― i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 11 May 2018 21:37 (eight years ago)
Noooo I love the KLO album
― brimstead, Friday, 11 May 2018 22:52 (eight years ago)
Ricardo Villalobos is shit
― the article don, Friday, 11 May 2018 23:28 (eight years ago)
DJ Koze too, shit
― the article don
the don speaks the truth
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 11 May 2018 23:38 (eight years ago)
agree on kozevillalobos has moments - esp as a dj - but yeah he’s been in a rut and he was overrated to begin with
― the late great, Friday, 11 May 2018 23:40 (eight years ago)
I mean the heavens didn’t exactly open up for me when I listened to Alcahofa but I’m not going to give anyone flack for having a 10/10 response to it.Like, what do any of us stand to gain from saying “I like this thing less than the popular consensus” when that stems entirely from personal taste rather than anything inherently hateful about the thing
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Friday, 11 May 2018 23:46 (eight years ago)
Other than venting, I suppose. Which I get on some level
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Friday, 11 May 2018 23:48 (eight years ago)
we gain satisfaction from trolling u
― the late great, Saturday, 12 May 2018 00:12 (eight years ago)
OVERRATED: The Orb - Adventures Beyond the UltraworldUNDERRATED: Irresistible Force - It's Tomorrow Already
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 12 May 2018 00:28 (eight years ago)
mixmaster morris definitely underratedprobably bcz he acts like an ass
― the late great, Saturday, 12 May 2018 00:36 (eight years ago)
my mixmaster morris pick would be global chillage and the one where all the title have the word high in them
― the late great, Saturday, 12 May 2018 00:37 (eight years ago)
Villalobos is awesome listen to some singles for once in your life ffs
― brimstead, Saturday, 12 May 2018 01:03 (eight years ago)
Eat some funk
― brimstead, Saturday, 12 May 2018 01:05 (eight years ago)
Villalobos himself probably hasn't listened to all the music he's made in the past ten years, and I object on principle to the kind of critical treatment that seeks to elevate him above other dance music producers as some kind of profound rule-breaking genius (though this has receded over about the same period as Villalobos' own output hit total critical mass). But a top twenty productions list (assuming we could all agree on its contents) would be straight fire.
The same is true to varying extents and in different ways for Moodymann, Theo Parrish, Autechre, Aphex Twin, arguably Terre Thaemlitz - all artists who get lauded as iconoclastic auteur geniuses and, well, it's understandable, but it also not my preferred way of thinking about any of them.
DJ Koze in a different category, at least for me: there's a middle stripe of amazing widescreen and inventive dance floor material that he puts out which I think is mindblowing, and then there's the more minimalist material he puts out that I think is fine but not necessarily that distinguishable from other similar producers, and the jokey stuff on the other side which is kind of whatever. I feel like his elevation to near iconoclastic genius category is almost an accident of history, a need to fill a void. It's interesting to imagine an alternate scenario where it wasn't Koze who ended up assuming that role but, I dunno, Kalabrese or someone.
(the obvious actual alternative is Maurice Fulton but I think a lot of people would say "yeah, but he is a genius tho")
― Tim F, Saturday, 12 May 2018 01:12 (eight years ago)
middle stripe you mean middle brow
― the late great, Saturday, 12 May 2018 01:13 (eight years ago)
haha sure if you like
― Tim F, Saturday, 12 May 2018 01:14 (eight years ago)
i think you are mostly otm except come on theo parrish really is a one of a kind madman
― the late great, Saturday, 12 May 2018 01:14 (eight years ago)