Autechre: Classic or Dud?

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make sure to paste in something from this thread to get you going

j., Saturday, 5 May 2018 05:32 (eight years ago)

i know i'll make a poll

the late great, Saturday, 5 May 2018 05:36 (eight years ago)

tlg i didn't mean to call you old. and i mean it sounds like you know what's up if you like bladelores. just a matter of whether you want to like the rest of what they're doing or not. it's giving me a lot of joy right now but i know you listen to a wide variety of music that does the same for you, meanwhile all i've been listening to for the past two weeks is autechre lol.

you bet, nancy (map), Saturday, 5 May 2018 05:37 (eight years ago)

i want to like it! i really do!

the late great, Saturday, 5 May 2018 05:43 (eight years ago)

i think it's basically very droney is the thing

j., Saturday, 5 May 2018 05:43 (eight years ago)

it's ok not to like autechre NTS

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 5 May 2018 05:44 (eight years ago)

counterpoint: no it isn't

you bet, nancy (map), Saturday, 5 May 2018 05:50 (eight years ago)

ty karl

the late great, Saturday, 5 May 2018 05:55 (eight years ago)

ok, new rule: you must like autechre NTS. but this is going to get complicated

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 5 May 2018 05:59 (eight years ago)

lol

you bet, nancy (map), Saturday, 5 May 2018 06:03 (eight years ago)

it's ok to not like autechre NTS but only after you've listened to each session 10 times.

track length and internal variety, idk some of them do feel like they spin on one spot for too long, bqbqbq in particular hasn't convinced me it needs to be more than a couple of minutes long. or less. but in general what strikes me with these sessions is how each one feels like a regular album - 10 or so individual tracks to be digested in one sitting - not like a double album or a live session. they don't feel like a marathon to sit through.

but then i only just learnt that incunabula is close on 80 mins long (and amber is 75)! they just fly by!

lana del boy (ledge), Saturday, 5 May 2018 07:06 (eight years ago)

come on guys, this music is bad

While I wouldn't go quite that far, this still seems like second or even third-rate Autechre to me. It's 8 fun-packed hours of "Olsa for n" !!

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Saturday, 5 May 2018 07:25 (eight years ago)

ego te absolvo

startled macropod (MatthewK), Saturday, 5 May 2018 08:17 (eight years ago)

they're still doling out just 1 idea per track and the ideas don't really carry the tracks for 10+ minutes

i do think some of the tracks here don't refresh very much or very quickly.

some of them do feel like they spin on one spot for too long

We must be listening to different albums. Most of these tracks are to my ears constantly evolving, and there are many where the entire mood of the piece changes (sometimes almost too abruptly) and goes in an entire different direction. Off the top of my head I'm thinking of "tt1pd," "north spiral," "gonk steady one," "glos ceramic," and "splesh." Dunno how anyone could say these tracks "spin on one spot for too long" or that they are "doling out just 1 idea per track."

How many "ideas per track" are there on a Taj Mahal Travellers album, btw?

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 5 May 2018 10:34 (eight years ago)

e0 like the sun rising

startled macropod (MatthewK), Saturday, 5 May 2018 11:58 (eight years ago)

ok my "whittled down" version of this is currently a not-exactly-lean 4hrs 38m

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:54 (eight years ago)

xp more than one

the late great, Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:56 (eight years ago)

enjoy, then

startled macropod (MatthewK), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:15 (eight years ago)

I just wanted to say that I love you all.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:37 (eight years ago)

9 chr0 - it's like, a Spiritual isn't it?

Real Gonk Kid (Noel Emits), Sunday, 6 May 2018 16:45 (eight years ago)

Some kind of blues progression anyway. Concrete blues. Would absolutely destroy on a big system I imagine.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Sunday, 6 May 2018 18:56 (eight years ago)

Spoke to some Autechre fans in real life today and it seems I don't like "32a_reflected" or "north spiral" nearly as much as everyone else. Good tracks, both, but neither made my cut

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 6 May 2018 21:33 (eight years ago)

https://aestheticcomplexity.wordpress.com/2018/04/14/32a_reflected/

The left channel is the same as the right channel played backwards, and vice versa

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 08:42 (eight years ago)

oh fuck

startled macropod (MatthewK), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 11:14 (eight years ago)

another message board I was on was talking about the different ways you can count "e0" - if you hear the cymbal on the 1 and 3 it's a different experience than hearing it on the 2 and 4. Switching up the way you hear it while you are listening (more difficult than it sounds!) is a headfuck because both totally sound right

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 11:28 (eight years ago)

Splesh is some proper dubbed-out rave

Hire Planes (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 13:43 (eight years ago)

next tt1pd raises the game by sounding like classic drill-era Aphex Twin at a scummy free party c1996

Hire Planes (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 13:48 (eight years ago)

another message board I was on was talking about the different ways you can count "e0" - if you hear the cymbal on the 1 and 3 it's a different experience than hearing it on the 2 and 4. Switching up the way you hear it while you are listening (more difficult than it sounds!) is a headfuck because both totally sound right

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, May 8, 2018 12:28 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

can't bring myself to hear it as 1/3

Hire Planes (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 14:36 (eight years ago)

That's funny, because I had trouble hearing it as 2/4 at first! For me, the cymbal naturally lands on the 1 and 3. It took effort for me to count it differently.

Who was it that compared Ae to magic eye paintings? That was otm, and I'd throw in The Crying of Lot 49 and Choose Your Own Adventure books

best music

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:17 (eight years ago)

i love “donk steady one”

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 02:59 (eight years ago)

:) new donk city, here we come!

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 03:07 (eight years ago)

“four of seven” my god

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 03:18 (eight years ago)

so we convinced you to skip ahead

j., Wednesday, 9 May 2018 04:30 (eight years ago)

listening to Eastre for the first time, off of elseq 3. i have to admit that slow moving recent autechre is my favorite mode of theirs. i'm also really enjoying the other stuff but i'm just always in a mood to listen to the snail-paced stuff. it's good music to work to and it sounds really good late at night.

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 05:08 (eight years ago)

love eastre it's such a zone

you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 05:21 (eight years ago)

I've always thought eastre was one of the best things on elseq

Dan S, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 05:42 (eight years ago)

eastre rules hard

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 06:45 (eight years ago)

the previous posts are correct

hepatitis groan (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 06:47 (eight years ago)

Anyone unfamiliar with their Neu! mashup "Autechre play Weissensee against Im Glück" might enjoy checking it out. The Splitrmx 12" it comes from has no speed marking and I prefer to listen to this at 45, but 33 seems to be the "official" speed on compilations etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOOQKdTKKMs

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 07:01 (eight years ago)

love eastre it's such a zone

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:57 (eight years ago)

lowell (and others) i'd really be curious, if you have a moment, just off the top of your head, what other Ae tracks (older and more recent) are in a similar zone as Eastre

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 18:05 (eight years ago)

what other Ae tracks (older and more recent) are in a similar zone as Eastre

much of NTS 4, vletrmix, some of the Quaristice "EP" tracks that are super long, and I'd go so far as to throw in Basinski's Disintegration Loops for good measure as they're the only thing with the length and hypnotic qualities that can match up to these

octobeard, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 18:18 (eight years ago)

smdh

basinski’s elevation to the default drone music reference point is completely beyond me

the late great, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 18:32 (eight years ago)

actually that’s not true, i get it, i just still think it’s weird

the late great, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 18:45 (eight years ago)

agreed

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 18:56 (eight years ago)

maybe a one trick pony but it's a damn good trick

everything since DL has been big time diminishing returns for me, though

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 19:12 (eight years ago)

it’s not so much that as it sounds to me like he’s using modern tools to remake music from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s

the late great, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 19:18 (eight years ago)

like it’s fine if you want to listen to this or gas rather than whatever minimal stuff of the 70s but i can’t account for the ubiquity of the (admittedly nice) disintegration loops

the late great, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 19:23 (eight years ago)

i should shut up though, i promised not to be an electronic music gadfly

the late great, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 19:25 (eight years ago)

i can’t account for the ubiquity of the (admittedly nice) disintegration loops

a concept (slowly disintegrating tapes) and origin story (9/11) that everyone can understand + they sound really good

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 19:31 (eight years ago)


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