Suede

Anyway, the adjective goes with the noun, and I don't think they recorded anything that could be described as bombastic indie rock prior to their reforming.

The parts of Dog Man Star that I guess might be called bombastic (not by me) are certainly not indie rock.

idk the recent albums sounds like Suede to me, albeit a touch more streamlined than their peak-era stuff. I listen to quite a bit of indie rock and can't think of any recent bands that sound much like 'em in any era. (and "The Living Dead" might be quiet but it's anything but subtle)

I Don't Know How To Reach You might be bombastic but it's as good as indie gets

What do we reckon? Very much takes off where Night Thoughts left off, which is no bad thing. Clearly not a 'single' in the traditional sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqzvcj0-kF4

I thought that was Rose McGowen for a few seconds. Anyway, it's good but yeah, very "album track."

Not too surprised they've picked a slow burner, non-single single to kick off with, considering how they are talking up this new album.

Predictably, I love it. I've really been enjoying what Suede have been getting up to since they reformed.

it's a beaut. If only they'd play over here!

"Don't Be Afraid If Nobody Loves You" is pretty nice!

I can’t stop playing it for a week now. Title/chorus sounds like by the numbers BA, but he’s doing something quite Kate Bush-y in the verses. Hoping for a pretentious mess x3

You know, the thing I don't like about modern Suede is Richard Oakes' guitar. This song would be really good if not for his crappy tone and robotic playing.

It does feel like an inferior re-do of I Don't Know How To Reach You, which is already one of their crowning achievement

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I like Oakes' guitar just fine and he's come up with some great things over the years.

Not to mention he can play Butler's guitar parts on the old stuff live better than Butler ever could.

This recent phase of Suede's career (Bloodsports to date) might just be my favourite phase of their career to date. They've been on great form.

*date=present

Sold on this after one listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEJfWrfN15k

good song, bit of Rocknroll Suicide

video doesn't help it, neither does the production imo (still waiting for that undercompressed live album with highlights from Bloodsports and Night Thoughts)

I guess it's good but I'm never gonna get into this version of Suede. I prefer e.g. Can't Get Enough or Savoir Faire to any Suede song post 2000. And I don't even like those songs that much. No point in me hoping for another Metal Mickey or New Generation or Flashboy – it's no shame of theirs they can't provide it, more mine for wanting it.

I like that you can see Oaksy playing an axe solo on top of one of the tower blocks.

https://i.imgur.com/ICCmPv7.png

Oh that song is very good - like making a whole song out of a "Wild Ones" verse.

Also, the video is kind of perfect for Suede, inhabiting the same empty and depopulated world of emotional desolation as the 'Sci-Fi Lullabies' cover. It would have been perfect if they had left out any Cyrillic letters to make the location less obvious.

I'm quite surprised at how great the whole package is, speaking as someone who liked the album but truly hated the Night Thoughts film

So, the new album. Both long songs are really good (yeah yeah vmic) but I'm not sold on the rest yet - feels like a step down from Night Thoughts

I found Night Thoughts ok (but never went back to it).
This one, I couldn't bother to listen to more than a few seconds of each new track.
I guess I simply don't like THIS band (as it is now).

Love Night Thoughts, can't remember Bloodsports (but liked it iirc), thanks for the bump on the new one! Us Yanks need to pay attention!

they went full vintage-Scott-Walker for this one huh

I don't hear 'vintage Scott Walker' at all tbh.

The opener is a grotesque dud, but the rest is.. not bad?

Couple of plays in and it sounds like Night Thoughts with a choir. Not quite the out-there experience they said they were going to make, but probably another worthy addition

The second track Wastelands is the closest they come to recapturing the glory of I Don't Know How To Reach You

Wan't "IDKHTRY" a kind of remake of "He's Dead" ?

Not related to the new album but I get a weird but obvious Suede circa « Let’s stay together » from L del Rey’s « Venice Bitch » instrumental guitar break !

Wan't "IDKHTRY" a kind of remake of "He's Dead" ?

― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 21 September 2018 13:45 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't hear the lift - but they're both among Suede's best songs

Guitar arpeggio, same syncopated drums part, same kind of bassline. It seems pretty obvious to me. And « He’s Dead » is indeed one of their most fabulous songs.

I still get frustrated that they're using the same combinations of chord changes, melodies, arrangements. As with the previous two albums, every single song has brittle, arpeggiated guitar from start to finish (I realise this is their signature sound, but they used to apply more varied textures – Coming Up, for example, only has four songs built around this kind of guitar line). Even some fucking strummed acoustic guitar would sound novel and exploratory in the context of their current work.

BUT I still really love this new record! There's rarely a hint of spontaneity or accident anywhere, but it's till so much more alive than the last couple. And within the parameters they don't move much beyond, these are excellent songs. In particular, Wastelands, Mistress, Cold Hands, Life Is Golden, All The Wild Places... but there is no dud. It's 50 minutes of highly comforting pleasure.

yeah when i said this was a step down from Night Thoughts I was kind of wrong....this is growing on me with every listen. I think Brett and the gang probably need their comfort zone to turn out stuff this consistently good even when Suede are no longer the coolest thing going

Their best since Scary Monsters

Seriously, easily the best since Coming Up. Proper pretentious mess, thank god.

Probably the best since DMS

Coming Up is great though

I hadn't heard Coming Up until a couple of days ago! Having given it several listens I think I prefer the last two to it, although it's still good

No ruinous Beautiful Ones to stink the place up with reheated Oasis on the new records

Whaaaaat o_O

"We're tra-ha-hash, you and me"

Maybe you had to be there :)

xp

From what I can tell they didn't release any b-sides from Night Thoughts singles, and nothing so far from Blue Hour aside from the 7" bonus track in the deluxe package, is that right?

xp yeah Trash is a great song

'By The Sea', 'Picnic by the Motorway' and 'Saturday Night' would all be on a 15 track best of of mine

I think this is a good album.

Picnic By The Motorway is my favourite thing on Coming Up and would probably make my own Suede compilation.

Really? It's only the second longest track on there! ;)