I'm hoping for a pretentious mess tbh
― imago, Monday, 30 April 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link
They've been talking up making one since the last one. I'm just hoping it isn't too comically 'out there', in a Suede way.
Really enjoyed Night Thoughts, but it's going to take a lot to forget the awful Eastenders-dressed-up-as-Derek-Jarman movie that accompanied it for the two live album performances I saw
― PaulTMA, Monday, 30 April 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link
spoken word :/
― kinder, Monday, 30 April 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
xps No-one manages to pulls off pretentious mess like Suede.
― 2018 has to be better (snoball), Monday, 30 April 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link
yeah that film, jesus.
― piscesx, Monday, 30 April 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link
Also no-one manages to unnecessarily pluralise a word like me...
I will listen to this, but their two recent albums have absolutely fitted into the genre of bombastic indie rock, and nothing more, a big turn-off for me. I've seen them play live for both (including that film), and when they play older songs it is as exciting as in the old days. I keep hoping that through playing them, they will manage to recapture some of that. Or something weirder! That preview video sounds pretty good, but on the album that's probably just gonna be a transition between two solid indie tunes.
― Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:11 (six years ago) link
Dismissing anything by Suede as bombastic ... I mean, is there literally anything by this (awesome) band that can be described as subtle?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:57 (six years ago) link
The Living Dead / My Dark Star Sleeping Pills / By the Sea etc
― Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 00:45 (six years ago) link
Anyway, the adjective goes with the noun, and I don't think they recorded anything that could be described as bombastic indie rock prior to their reforming.
― Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
The parts of Dog Man Star that I guess might be called bombastic (not by me) are certainly not indie rock.
― Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 00:50 (six years ago) link
idk the recent albums sounds like Suede to me, albeit a touch more streamlined than their peak-era stuff. I listen to quite a bit of indie rock and can't think of any recent bands that sound much like 'em in any era. (and "The Living Dead" might be quiet but it's anything but subtle)
― Simon H., Tuesday, 1 May 2018 01:22 (six years ago) link
I Don't Know How To Reach You might be bombastic but it's as good as indie gets
― imago, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 01:25 (six years ago) link
What do we reckon? Very much takes off where Night Thoughts left off, which is no bad thing. Clearly not a 'single' in the traditional sense.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqzvcj0-kF4
― PaulTMA, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link
I thought that was Rose McGowen for a few seconds. Anyway, it's good but yeah, very "album track."
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 June 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link
Not too surprised they've picked a slow burner, non-single single to kick off with, considering how they are talking up this new album.
― PaulTMA, Monday, 4 June 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link
Predictably, I love it. I've really been enjoying what Suede have been getting up to since they reformed.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link
it's a beaut. If only they'd play over here!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2018 22:03 (six years ago) link
"Don't Be Afraid If Nobody Loves You" is pretty nice!
― Simon H., Friday, 13 July 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link
I can’t stop playing it for a week now. Title/chorus sounds like by the numbers BA, but he’s doing something quite Kate Bush-y in the verses. Hoping for a pretentious mess x3
― nikola, Saturday, 21 July 2018 00:08 (six years ago) link
You know, the thing I don't like about modern Suede is Richard Oakes' guitar. This song would be really good if not for his crappy tone and robotic playing.
― Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 27 July 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link
It does feel like an inferior re-do of I Don't Know How To Reach You, which is already one of their crowning achievement
― imago, Friday, 27 July 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link
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I like Oakes' guitar just fine and he's come up with some great things over the years.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link
Not to mention he can play Butler's guitar parts on the old stuff live better than Butler ever could.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link
This recent phase of Suede's career (Bloodsports to date) might just be my favourite phase of their career to date. They've been on great form.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
*date=present
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link
Sold on this after one listenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEJfWrfN15k
― PaulTMA, Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:32 (six years ago) link
good song, bit of Rocknroll Suicidevideo doesn't help it, neither does the production imo (still waiting for that undercompressed live album with highlights from Bloodsports and Night Thoughts)
― niels, Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link
I guess it's good but I'm never gonna get into this version of Suede. I prefer e.g. Can't Get Enough or Savoir Faire to any Suede song post 2000. And I don't even like those songs that much. No point in me hoping for another Metal Mickey or New Generation or Flashboy – it's no shame of theirs they can't provide it, more mine for wanting it.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link
I like that you can see Oaksy playing an axe solo on top of one of the tower blocks.
― djh, Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/ICCmPv7.png
― incarcerated moonfaces (how's life), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link
Oh that song is very good - like making a whole song out of a "Wild Ones" verse.
Also, the video is kind of perfect for Suede, inhabiting the same empty and depopulated world of emotional desolation as the 'Sci-Fi Lullabies' cover. It would have been perfect if they had left out any Cyrillic letters to make the location less obvious.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link
I'm quite surprised at how great the whole package is, speaking as someone who liked the album but truly hated the Night Thoughts film
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link
So, the new album. Both long songs are really good (yeah yeah vmic) but I'm not sold on the rest yet - feels like a step down from Night Thoughts
― imago, Friday, 21 September 2018 09:11 (six years ago) link
I found Night Thoughts ok (but never went back to it).This one, I couldn't bother to listen to more than a few seconds of each new track.I guess I simply don't like THIS band (as it is now).
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 21 September 2018 09:35 (six years ago) link
Love Night Thoughts, can't remember Bloodsports (but liked it iirc), thanks for the bump on the new one! Us Yanks need to pay attention!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 September 2018 11:42 (six years ago) link
they went full vintage-Scott-Walker for this one huh
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:23 (six years ago) link
I don't hear 'vintage Scott Walker' at all tbh.
The opener is a grotesque dud, but the rest is.. not bad?
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 21 September 2018 13:32 (six years ago) link
Couple of plays in and it sounds like Night Thoughts with a choir. Not quite the out-there experience they said they were going to make, but probably another worthy addition
― PaulTMA, Friday, 21 September 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link
The second track Wastelands is the closest they come to recapturing the glory of I Don't Know How To Reach You
― imago, Friday, 21 September 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link
Wan't "IDKHTRY" a kind of remake of "He's Dead" ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 21 September 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link
Not related to the new album but I get a weird but obvious Suede circa « Let’s stay together » from L del Rey’s « Venice Bitch » instrumental guitar break !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 21 September 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
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I don't hear the lift - but they're both among Suede's best songs
― imago, Friday, 21 September 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
Guitar arpeggio, same syncopated drums part, same kind of bassline. It seems pretty obvious to me. And « He’s Dead » is indeed one of their most fabulous songs.
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 21 September 2018 22:47 (six years ago) link
I still get frustrated that they're using the same combinations of chord changes, melodies, arrangements. As with the previous two albums, every single song has brittle, arpeggiated guitar from start to finish (I realise this is their signature sound, but they used to apply more varied textures – Coming Up, for example, only has four songs built around this kind of guitar line). Even some fucking strummed acoustic guitar would sound novel and exploratory in the context of their current work.
BUT I still really love this new record! There's rarely a hint of spontaneity or accident anywhere, but it's till so much more alive than the last couple. And within the parameters they don't move much beyond, these are excellent songs. In particular, Wastelands, Mistress, Cold Hands, Life Is Golden, All The Wild Places... but there is no dud. It's 50 minutes of highly comforting pleasure.
― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 22 September 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link
yeah when i said this was a step down from Night Thoughts I was kind of wrong....this is growing on me with every listen. I think Brett and the gang probably need their comfort zone to turn out stuff this consistently good even when Suede are no longer the coolest thing going
― imago, Saturday, 22 September 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link
Their best since Scary Monsters
Seriously, easily the best since Coming Up. Proper pretentious mess, thank god.
― nikola, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link
Probably the best since DMS
― imago, Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link
Coming Up is great though
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 September 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link