I sometimes think of Rain Tree Crow as Sylvian's attempt to make Laughing Stock.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Monday, 30 April 2018 07:13 (eight years ago)
"i think "a fire in the forest" out-darkest-dreamings "darkest dreaming" for me"
yeah those are the two closers I was thinking of. sublime.
― akm, Monday, 30 April 2018 12:34 (eight years ago)
It was released a few months before Laughing Stock though. I think of it as more DS bringing his improv/chance approach from the Czukay sessions into his old band and seeing where that went. With a few gorgeous, conventionally constructed songs in there too.
― Michael Jones, Monday, 30 April 2018 13:10 (eight years ago)
to me it sounds much more like music in between ambient and world in the vein of what eno, byrne, gabriel, hassell etc. were doing in the 80s. "laughing stock" is a completely different beast i think. it has got this holy & spiritual vibe which i do not feel in "rain tree crow".
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 30 April 2018 13:25 (eight years ago)
Huh. I bought RTC on release but only got into LS a few years later - shows what I know!And yeah I remember the press and the liner notes being big on the improvised nature of the sessions. A pretty interesting way to reform a band, can't think of anyone else who did it that way.And agreed, Alex, LS is the vision of a seer, whereas RTC is more abstract musings. Sylvian has always been exquisitely emotionally guarded, part of the allure I guess.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Monday, 30 April 2018 13:28 (eight years ago)
Still think the albums are in the same sonic territory, albeit polished for RTC and raw for LS.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Monday, 30 April 2018 13:30 (eight years ago)
https://www.groenland.com/product/david-sylvian-holger-czukay-plight-premonition-flux-mutability-2lp/
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:53 (seven years ago)
He's been doing his first interviews since 2012 or so lately for the Czukay reissue.A long three-pager was just posted in a Japan facebook group from Electronic Sound mag. Plus, something in this month's Uncut too.
Also, his website's GDPR email could possibly refer to new music this year, if you're feeling especially optimistic. Just as likely it means nothing though!
"After what has been a brief break davidsylvian.com is once again updated and fully functional. There’ll be exciting news coming from the site throughout the year.We would like to stay in touch with you regarding all new releases/rereleases, news and publications by, or concerning, David Sylvian."
― mr.raffles, Thursday, 14 June 2018 15:52 (seven years ago)
His Twitter feed is intriguing.
― djh, Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:10 (seven years ago)
i am excite
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 14 June 2018 18:31 (seven years ago)
there was somethign posted to the japan/sylvian FB group this morning and then swifly deleted, didn't catch what it was but it was a red image with something about news coming about something this year?
― akm, Thursday, 14 June 2018 19:49 (seven years ago)
Yeah. The red image is from the email that went out today. Text is in my post above.
His twitter feed is great. How else would you find out he's buddies with Anton Newcombe!
― mr.raffles, Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:17 (seven years ago)
Found a pristine copy of the reissued Alchemy CD at Half-Price books yesterday, score. Based on the person upthread who hates it also hating the instrumental sides of Gone to Earth, which are my all-time favorite Sylvian sides, I'm guessing I'm going to like it!
― mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 18:39 (five years ago)
You're in for a treat.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 18:45 (five years ago)
yeah that is good stuff
― akm, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 18:56 (five years ago)
I'd rank most of Sylvian's instrumentals in the interesting-to-pleasant range, the exceptional ones are on Gone to Earth (and Japan records). They're a mostly more retiring than I prefer.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 19:19 (five years ago)
The few instrumentals on rain tree crow are pinnacle stuff IMO
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 22:17 (five years ago)
"Red Earth" is a nice one on that record, a little more outgoing than the others.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 01:47 (five years ago)
So I've been listening to Alchemy the past couple of days and really enjoying it, but couldn't figure out why Words with the Shaman sounded so wacky... then I looked at the liner notes and oh, it's Jon Hassell! Should have guessed.
― mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 4 June 2021 04:30 (five years ago)
My fav tracks (predictably) are the Stigma of Childhood and Steel Cathedrals, it'd be worth the price for Stigma of Childhood alone.
― mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 4 June 2021 05:05 (five years ago)
By "wacky" you mean "awesome", right?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 4 June 2021 14:57 (five years ago)
haha more like "I know this isn't David Sylvian or like Fripp or Nelson, who is doing this? (checks liner notes) ah of course, this is some Fourth World noises"
― mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 4 June 2021 15:12 (five years ago)
Twinkle3 ft David Sylvian and Kazuko Hohki - Upon This Fleeting Dream
https://cortizona.bandcamp.com/album/upon-this-fleeting-dream
― StanM, Friday, 7 October 2022 09:42 (three years ago)
I can't find the link now, but there's a Sylvian interview on Mary Anne Hobbs' show on 6 Music on 27/10/22.
― giraffe, Friday, 7 October 2022 09:56 (three years ago)
^ https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001d5w7
― StanM, Friday, 7 October 2022 11:19 (three years ago)
Thanks, I hope the interview is available outside the UK.
I've been on a real Sylvian kick recently, especially Brilliant Trees and Gone to Earth. I've owned both for about 20 years and they still sound as fresh as the day I first heard then.
I have Secrets of the Beehive coming in the mail. Great album. (I've been on a real binge of buying cheap CDs on Discogs since vinyl prices have become ridiculous. Some great stuff out there. It was only a few bucks for the Sylvian CD and similar for the Dead Can Dance debut.)
― The Ghost Club, Friday, 7 October 2022 11:26 (three years ago)
Thanks, StanM. The link works but for some reason there's no info there. Maybe that's because I'm outside the UK. Anyway, more importantly, I'm looking forward to hearing it.
― giraffe, Friday, 7 October 2022 12:41 (three years ago)
Weird - maybe this will work? -> This is the one preview track: https://cortizona.bandcamp.com/track/if-i-leave-no-trace ( https://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/v=2/track=1015719844/size=large/linkcol=0084B4/notracklist=true/twittercard=true/ )
And the info/blurb there:
On ‘Upon This Fleeting Dream’ Clive Bell’s Twinkle3 embraces medieval and 16th century Japanese poems and haiku about death and saying farewell. Bell and Twnkle3, consisting of Dave Ross and Richard Scott, expand their sonic borders to unknown territory: bringing these pithy epigrams to a new Fourth World where electro-acoustic sounds glitches into an hypnagogic, if not unconscious level of fragile beauty.The distinctive voice of David Sylvian, who reads the English version of the poems and created field recordings and the artwork for this album blends in the most organic way with the shakuhachi,Thai reed flutes and mouth organs played by Clive Bell.The narrative voices of David Sylvian and Kazuko Hohki’s (Frank Chickens, Kahondo Style…) velvet timbre are the cornerstones of this compelling journey while the tangling and abstract rhythms transcending from Dave Ross’ modular synths and Richard Scott’s sampler and analogue electronics, unravel and unfold a mesmerizing universe with unknown dimensions and frequencies of a fleeting dream.creditsreleases October 28, 2022Clive Bell: Shakuhachi flute, pi saw and khene mouth organDave Ross: Droscillator, modular synths, various wind and string instrumentsRichard Scott: Sampler, modular synths and analogue electronicsDavid Sylvian: Vocals, field recordings and artwork/photographyKazuko Hohki: Japanese voiceMastered by Gert Van Hoof at Cochlea MasteringCut by Dubplates & Mastering BerlinSleeve design and lay out by Jef CuypersExecutive production by Philippe Cortens
The distinctive voice of David Sylvian, who reads the English version of the poems and created field recordings and the artwork for this album blends in the most organic way with the shakuhachi,Thai reed flutes and mouth organs played by Clive Bell.
The narrative voices of David Sylvian and Kazuko Hohki’s (Frank Chickens, Kahondo Style…) velvet timbre are the cornerstones of this compelling journey while the tangling and abstract rhythms transcending from Dave Ross’ modular synths and Richard Scott’s sampler and analogue electronics, unravel and unfold a mesmerizing universe with unknown dimensions and frequencies of a fleeting dream.
creditsreleases October 28, 2022
Clive Bell: Shakuhachi flute, pi saw and khene mouth organDave Ross: Droscillator, modular synths, various wind and string instrumentsRichard Scott: Sampler, modular synths and analogue electronicsDavid Sylvian: Vocals, field recordings and artwork/photographyKazuko Hohki: Japanese voice
Mastered by Gert Van Hoof at Cochlea MasteringCut by Dubplates & Mastering Berlin
Sleeve design and lay out by Jef CuypersExecutive production by Philippe Cortens
― StanM, Friday, 7 October 2022 12:54 (three years ago)
No, I was referring to the BBC link.
I listened to the Hohki track. Thanks.
― giraffe, Friday, 7 October 2022 13:19 (three years ago)
oops, haha - I'm not in the UK either & it says the audio should be available after Oct 27th. (I can listen to older episodes too)
― StanM, Friday, 7 October 2022 13:26 (three years ago)
Yes that's all I can see too.
― giraffe, Friday, 7 October 2022 13:44 (three years ago)
Some more information about the BBC6 show via the Quietus:Mary Anne Hobbs has announced that David Sylvian will take part in a special show on BBC 6 Music later this month, the musician's first major engagement with the media in fifteen years.Speaking on her show today (11 October), Hobbs said: "David Sylvian has been comfortable in his own silence for the best part of 15 years, but of course there’s also a great joy in an artist surfacing after such an extended period of time to share some of their thoughts and ideas."She revealed that Sylvian has recorded an audio diary from his home in rural New Hampshire, which will be broadcast as part of a special show titled 'Spirit Of Sylvian' on 27 October.In addition, Hobbs said, "you'll hear artists who've influenced David, contemporary musicians that he's inspired, his own collaborations and solo work, and also some music that I would like to play to David."
― willem, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 08:43 (three years ago)
Meanwhile, just to add to the air of mystery, DS handed over his Twitter account to a third party a few days ago, who then pointed out that DS hasn't lived in NH for a decade, but didn't say where he lives now. :)
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 10:31 (three years ago)
"David hasn't lived in NH since 2012. Since that time he's lived in London, the Wicklow Mountains of Ireland, Berlin, and traveled all over the States as documented in his book 'ERR'. A minor detail but he's far from NH now, however, he does remain in seclusion."
― Duke, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 12:01 (three years ago)
I didn't know about his book.
― Duke, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 12:02 (three years ago)
I remember seeing pictures of the New Hampshire house and recording studio when it was being sold.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 14:16 (three years ago)
That book sold out fairly quickly. As did the limited edition print set he just did with Lance Austin Olsen and another artist.
He mentioned on Twitter to not buy the Twinkle3 or Isabelle Adjani records coming out on his account, as he wasn't that involved in either:"if I don't post something related to a release on my timeline it's because i'm not comfortable (mis)directing ppl to projects I've barely any involvement in. all news isn't newsworthy though some think otherwise. an album stands on its own merits irrespective of my involvement"
Very much looking forward to Hobbs show!
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:49 (three years ago)
i imagine he still maintains his instagram, or has been, which has been a lot of yuka fuji photos from the past, and a lot of photos of his daughter, which look more recent.
― akm, Thursday, 13 October 2022 05:55 (three years ago)
Interview available now:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb2_Cdeqb-M
― doug watson, Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:43 (three years ago)
Thanks!
― willem, Friday, 4 November 2022 08:10 (three years ago)
wow he has quite the American accent these days huh
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Friday, 4 November 2022 08:51 (three years ago)
he looks like a lesbian colleague
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 November 2022 09:23 (three years ago)
First new singing vocal from the man in a decade or so (recorded in Jan/Feb 2022)... AND a lil video trailer (by Yuka Fuji - recorded last week apparently) to boot!
https://twitter.com/davidsylvian58/status/1597804506552487936
Missed this fella.
― mr.raffles, Friday, 2 December 2022 18:16 (three years ago)
Would really love to see this but Twitter is restricting access. Hopefully it'll be shared on another platform.
― doug watson, Friday, 2 December 2022 21:19 (three years ago)
He also shared it on Facebook... https://fb.watch/hadz_wwDzu/
― mr.raffles, Friday, 2 December 2022 22:31 (three years ago)
lol thanks raffles. you're doing your best.
(am lol'ing at my situation as i have access to neither facebook, nor twitter. ah well. we'll hear it soon enough.)
― ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Friday, 2 December 2022 23:27 (three years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfiliu6-6ZA
― doug watson, Saturday, 3 December 2022 00:23 (three years ago)
Seems like the trailer he posted isn't up on YouTube (yet).
― mr.raffles, Saturday, 3 December 2022 01:03 (three years ago)
I’m excited about this too, though I am assuming maybe this means Sakamoto doesn’t have a lot of time left? That would be incredibly depressing.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 5 December 2022 18:50 (three years ago)
A Xmas present from David: a Nine Horses demo from 2004https://on.soundcloud.com/yawsmWhjyuyXqVZWA
― Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Sunday, 25 December 2022 23:28 (three years ago)