Most ridiculous post about 'NTS Sessions 1-4' album on the Autechre thread

autechre is NOT a band

good day, sir!

https://www.discogs.com/Dr-Jeffrey-Thompson-Celestial-Dolphin/release/2846361

Relax, it's not the end of Autechre. They're hitting peak form, touring, releasing more and more music. People asked the same thing when L-Event finished with "Newbound".

I love you, Whiney. Never change.

Upgrade by definition means things getting better. If it isn't better it's not an upgrade.

looks like my 20-year experience of Windows is an outlier then

If anyone else is struggling with the meaning of the word upgrade I can suggest a dictionary or y'know, context ;-)

You're even free to look it up on your Encarta CD-ROM.

love it when ilxors wilfully misunderstand each other

it's a wilfully, pugnaciously bad take. if you're saying that software developers don't routinely release things called upgrades that sometimes make the user experience actively worse then i don't know how to argue. if you're saying that an upgrade that doesn't improve the user experience isn't an upgrade then that just semantic nonsense.

i mean it's also entirely irrelevant but fuck it, it's a quiet Saturday.

It's fine if you associate a word with some poor usage but a) that's not what it means and b) it's clear as fuck not what was intended in the original sentence - "software upgrades that make previous iterations redundant."

Also, many software upgrades are actually good.

Words gain their meaning from usage, and if dictionaries don't show this yet, then that's because they're slow to update.

So "upgrade" is primarily euphemistic now? Even when qualified as obviously positive?

Funny tho, I genuinely associate software upgrades with cool new stuff that pisses on earlier versions.

Euphemistic / ironic.

https://www.nolimitsendurance.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Jason-No-Limits-Endurance-Coaching.jpg

As a software developer, I can attest that "upgrade" doesn't always mean "better."

Also lol at this thread.

I don't understand why we have to police fans for being enthusiastic and hyperbolic

enthusiasm is rockist

As someone who has never listened to Autechre, for no particular reasons, these descriptions have convinced me to give them a serious shot.

The answer is Whiney perpetually feels he has to be ~ahead of the game~, beat the backlash before it beats him. He'll still put NTS1-4 in his EOTY top 10, just you wait. He'll rave about it yet only in writing he's actually paid for. On here he'll scorn and police people *liking music*. He can't do it without an ~ironic fight~ on a message board. Not realising that tiresome gig is up since, what, 1998?

You could be that person too, Moodles. Alternatively, you might not want to bother with that tiresome meta-post-shizzle stick dragged out into ancient history, making a caricature out of yourself. In which case you are way, way better off. Choose wisely!

I could? Gosh.

Weary Whiney stick is weary, is all.

I love that Whiney makes fun of ILM! On the other hand, all of those poll choices are my kind of posts, are what I come to ILM for

This kind of post is probably how /r/SRS started, too.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/03/26/48-hours-inside-the-internets-most-toxic-community/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4d4339300507

Lol u all mad

As a software developer, I can attest that "upgrade" doesn't always mean "better."

The defensive nonsense on this thread is actually a significant portion of why I need never try to appreciate autechre again after various failed experiments

Props to those who own up to it; everybody else, lol your gods are mortal and lame

(I like very old autechre; LP5 and later just doesn’t do anything for me, sorry)

I think the dividing line is just after LP5 tbh (although I love every iteration of Autechre!)

I'm ok with saying Autechre is lame or whatever, I just don't see the point of taking people to task for enjoying them the wrong way

(I like very old autechre; LP5 and later just doesn’t do anything for me, sorry)

― El Tomboto

whiney is of course bitchy as hell but this poll is good

despite not having read the thread, i feel confident i voted for lj <3

seriously torn between software upgrade and magic eye poster

I'm thinking of moving my Autechre CDs from the "Electronic • Dance" section of my collection to the "Ou

outsider music? outlaw country? outré? I haven't heard this new 8-hour-long Autechre album, but I bet it's the perfect soundtrack for the task of arranging and rearranging your CD collection into increasingly byzantine micro-genres :p

lol

software update is the funniest, but the magic eye post has the poetry of an ilx classic like the core, the heart music.

Good grief, it's not at all about defending 'fandom' or a daft post. Just a mild reposte in the ironic petty spirit of the thread. Got a bit out of hand but I didn't reach for words like bitch and fool. Apologies map anyway.

*riposte

it's 8 hours so it covers quite a bit of ground and is hard to broadly characterize, but large swaths of the NTS sessions are the most approachable and conventionally melodic and beautiful they've sounded since the 90s.

these would all be on my autechre greatest hits:

donk steady one (22:25)
e0 (10:25)
cluster casual (11:03)
g1 e 1 (6:59)
column thirteen (17:02)
all end (58:21)

*gonk
Also "north spiral" rules

i think i just have new donk city on the brain

it sounds like a bunch of skronking grinding noises

pretty good though

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

never stop calling it donk city karl

Forget it, Karl. It's Donk City.

ok went with magic eye

who said that anyway, it's great

ugh I hate the idea that there is anything to "get" with Autechre. It's just incredibly great sounding music / sound. I guess you need to listen to a lot to work up a shared aesthetic, but I get the same direct connection from, I dunno, "6IE.CR" that I get from "I Know You Got Soul". No abstract thought required. And I am 99.999% sure that they are motivated the same way, the most cerebral they get is making algorithms to generate / control / sequence the sound, same way a guitarist might study with a new teacher to expand their vocab, but the aesthetic decision making is based on "does this sound fucking cool / moving / menacing" and not "does this advance our art according to manifesto X".
Their DJ sets from the streaming broadcasts around Quaristice / Oversteps / Exai are great listening, just a lot of great Detroit, oldschool, boom-bap and atmospheric work. Sure, some heady and obscure things, but clearly assembled with love and a disregard for cool-factor or w/e.
They get bored with the old shit, they make new shit, it becomes more extreme over time, they acquire more skills at getting what they want and the formats allow more flexibility. I'm glad to be alive while they're doing it.

I listen to Autechre lots of different ways. As ambient music (in every sense), as intellectualized generative music (however composed or not), as textured electronic music, as tactile or more conventional beat-driven music, as really precise bricolage, as abstract experimental music. And so on. Subtle distinctions, sometimes, and sometimes what I perceive is just a matter of my mood. Other times it's just a matter of sitting in a different chair.

nts 1 is straight fire