I'd guess class and obviously race played a role, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link
Also who the hell else was on then?
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link
Lemmy was mad for the Beatles, Elvis, all that. It’s more the age group that is the tell rather than their personal musical style
But remember, Lemmy saw the Beatles play in Hamburg, and said they were basically a speed-freak punk band at that point.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link
much like Christian Nolan digging Stanley Kubrick while not making Kubrickian movies, people can be hugely influenced by a singular artist while taking that energy into entirely new directions
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link
Christopher Nolan even
But also: it’s not quite the same thing but I have 2 friends, one my age and one 10 yrs younger. We were talking abt Michael Jackson & she just didnt get our love for him bcz by the time she was old enough to know about his music he was full tilt boogie weird.If you werent there when the wave hit, it’s hard to explain what that feeling was like & how that joy compounds over time & carries you through the weirdness
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:24 (six years ago) link
When I went to see a tribute band play Michael Jackson, the crowd responded proportionally by age/generation depending on whether the music was Motown, Off the Wall, Thriller or Bad.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link
But much more than, say, someone like Kubrick, Elvis (like the Beatles) demarcated a clear cultural before/after.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link
Esp. for people in palookaville, I imagine. Did anyone look at (insert pre-Elvis musical star here) and think, that could be me? That is my way out of middle of nowhere poverty?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link
When I went to see a tribute band play Michael Jackson, the crowd responded proportionally by age/generation depending on whether the music was Motown, Off the Wall, Thriller or Bad.when i was in full Thriller mania, learning to moonwalk etc, a younger friend of my parents said, you know how you feel about Michael Jackson? that's how i felt about Michael Jackson when i was your age
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link
The way he says “Dylan” in the take above, it’s an incantation.
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link
Did anyone look at (insert pre-Elvis musical star here) and think, that could be me? That is my way out of middle of nowhere poverty?
Hank Williams? i think the lack of grooming and willingness to not shy away from southernness & stereotypes about hillbillies was pretty unique and somewhat democratizing.
however im not sure if there was even a pre-Elvis music industry marketing infrastructure to support a popular idea of music as a ticket to riches. like that way of thinking was probably true for Hollywood (and to that effect Elvis is a bit old school by also being a film star) but i dunno.
also this was an era before LP as album & recorded music automated most things, i'd imagine there were lots more opportunities for working musicians. perhaps it was more of a legit career path back then than the "you'll never make it as a giant star" all-or-nothing sort of success chasing we have now.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
that unchained melody clip just left me speechless....six weeks before he died...jesus, he's just giving everything to get through it
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link
There's a great book about the history of country music (and "country music") called Don't Get Above Your Raisin': Country Music and the Southern Working Class; definitely worth checking out.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link
Is there any documentary that covers the more tawdry aspects of his celebrity – ie, the karate/friend peanut butter and banana sandwiches/super young girlfriends, etc. I appreciate that this doc tried to focus on his artistry as it can be lost among that stuff. But I realize I don’t really know much about it and my sense is that it’s not exactly irrelevant.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link
peanut butter and banana sandwiches are very good and not tawdry
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 May 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link
^ also true of karate
― Brad C., Saturday, 5 May 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link
there was a Geraldo-led 20/20 special from 1979 but it's about the "cover up" of his death
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 May 2018 15:18 (six years ago) link
Had to do some work at the library today, and discovered this in the stacks:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41PFAWG6bgL._SX366_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
A Novel About Elvis By William F. Buckley
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:25 (six years ago) link
If you’re looking for sensationalism and hearsay, you may enjoy the Goldman biography
― calstars, Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:48 (six years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:59 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is what you're looking for: Arena, 1996, The Burger and The King.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b5LQ-rNSd8
― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 5 May 2018 23:59 (six years ago) link
To say that Elvis was more expressive than his contemporaries or that there was a yearning in his voice isn't really enough. I know it's common knowledge but all the spending and gift-giving, his jealousy and possessiveness of friends and lovers, the hyperactivity and almost constant joking and punning you hear in-studio, and of course the drugs—all of it was maintained to keep a profound pain at bay. That's what I hear even in some of his goofiest stuff and what for me elevates him as an interpreter and performer—a need to go down into what is painful about music, to locate what hurts in a song and stay there and suffer it, maybe in the hope the pain will abate when it's over.― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, April 26, 2018 4:02 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, April 26, 2018 4:02 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The recording sessions book says he recorded this one in a couple of takes, then listened to the playback in the studio over and over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pljYD7ncmSU
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Sunday, 6 May 2018 11:20 (six years ago) link
Another painful stab at loneliness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLj0aLPLsys
and the live version with "listen Cilla" interspersed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZaFihDRjZs
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Sunday, 6 May 2018 11:30 (six years ago) link
My stab from a couple years back at soundscaping a young searcher's stomping grounds, jumping between WDIA and WHBQ and meandering up and down the the dial, skipping back and forth across the tracks with Dewey Phillips spots, news bulletins, jingles, good and bad weather, miscellany postwar ephemera.... pm me for a link!
http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/HadrianVIII/EAP_1941-1953_zpsgqdjuhly.jpg
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 7 May 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link
oh that was big. anyway:
01 Night Train To Memphis (3:39) Roy Acuff 194402 All She Wants To Do Is Rock (3:54) Wynonie Harris 194903 Up Above My Head (2:27) Sister Rosetta Tharpe 194904 Ida Red Likes The Boogie (2:17) Bob Wills 195005 Jesus Hits Like The Atom Bomb (2:31) The Soul Stirrers 195006 Blue Moon Of Kentucky (2:04) Bill Monroe 194707 Gotta Let You Go (2:39) Joe Hill Louis 195008 Rolling, Riding, Rocking (1:51) Blackwood Brothers 195309 Standing in the Safety Zone (2:22) Professor Johnson 195010 That's All Right (2:57) Arthur Crudup 194611 That's When Your Heartaches Begin (3:23) The Ink Spots 194612 Satisfied (2:41) Martha Carson 195113 Rocket 88 (3:01) Jackie Brenston 195114 The Hot Guitar (2:59) Eddie Hill 195215 When the Swallows Come Back [....](3:19) Billy Ward &The Dominoes 195216 Booted (3:02) Rosco Gordon 195217 La Fiacre (3:05) Giselle Mackenzi 195118 Call Me Fool (3:12) Mario Lanza 195319 Sixty Minute Man (2:53) The Dominoes 195120 Didn't It Rain (3:20) Sister Rosetta Tharpe 194721 The Great Atomic Power (2:56) The Louvin Brothers 195222 That's Amore (3:05) Dean Martin 195323 Take a Trip (3:38) Utah Smith 195324 A Full Time Job (2:24) Eddy Arnold 195225 She Moves Me (2:55) Muddy Waters 195226 The Golden Rocket (3:53) Hank Snow 195027 I'm Gonna Murder My Baby (2:52) Pat Hare 195428 Joshua Fit The Battle (3:29) The Spirit of Memphis 195129 I've Got Five Dollars & It's Saturday[...] (3:35) Ted Daffan 195030 Mystery Train (2:26) Little Junior's Blue Flames 195231 Chattanoogie Shoe Shine Boy (2:43) Red Foley 195032 Rats In My Kitchen (3:04) Sleepy John Estes 195233 More And More (2:18) Webb Pierce 195434 Hound Dog (4:10) Big Mama Thornton 195235 There's a Man In Jerusalem (2:21) Southern Jubillee Singers 195136 Shotgun Boogie (2:32) Tennessee Ernie Ford 195137 Cotton Crop Blues (3:36) James Cotton 195338 Everybody Will Be Happy Over There (1:56) The Statesmen Quartet 195439 Keep Them Cold Icy FIngers Off Me (3:11) Fairley Holden 194740 Mess Around (2:51) Ray Charles 195341 I've Forgotten More (2:59) The Davis Sisters 195342 Work With Me Annie (2:42) Hank Ballard & Midnighters 195443 Cry (3:01) Johnny Ray 195444 My Kind Of Carryin' On (3:32) Doug Poindexter 195445 Love Don' Love Nobody (3:17) Roy Brown 195046 Fortunes In Memories (2:58) Ernest Tubb 195247 No Swallerin' Place (4:01) June Carter 195348 One Scotch, One Bourbon, One Beer (3:20) Amos Milburn 195349 One More Time (2:54) Dean Martin 195450 The Boogie Disease (2:38) Dr. Ross 195451 (What About) Frank Clement (2:58) The Prisonaires 195452 Thirteen Women (2:51) Bill Haley & His Comets 195453 Dear Lord Take My Hand (2:58) Maddox Brothers & Rose 194954 Sleepy Eyed John (2:35) Ole Rasmussen 195055 Blacksmith Blues (3:26) Ella Mae Morse 195256 Who Is That Knocking (2:55) Southern Wonders 195257 Better Cut That Out (2:56) Sonny Boy Williamson 194858 No Help Wanted (2:24) The Carlisles 195259 I'm My Own Grandpa (3:12) Lonzo & Oscar 194760 When I First Sought The Lord Sister (2:27) Rosetta Tharpe 195261 Rock House Boogie (3:31) John Lee Hooker 195262 Dim Lights, Thick Smoke (2:53) Joe & Rose Lee Maphis 195363 Just Married (2:23) Faron Young 195364 I'm Using My Bible For A Roadmap (2:28) Reno & Smiley 195265 Open The Door Richard (2:56) Dusty Fletcher 194766 Going To The River (2:31) Fats Domino 195367 Molly Darling (2:34) Eddy Arnold 194768 Feelin' Good (3:01) Little Junior's Blue Flames 195269 Why Should I Cry (2:50) Lonnie Johnson 195170 Tired of Your Lies (2:12) Mississippi Slim 195271 The Things That I Used To Do (3:23) Guitar Slim 195372 The Gold Rush Is Over (2:23) Hank Snow 195273 Mona Lisa (3:23) Nat King Cole 195074 Working On a Building (2:50) The Jordanaires 195075 You Hit Me Baby Like An Atom Bomb (1:58) Fay Simmons 195476 Merle's Boogie Woogie (3:00) Merle Travis 194877 If (2:48) The Ink Spots 195178 Lord Will Make a Way (3:37) Rev. Anderson Johnson 195279 Reconsider Baby (3:07) Lowell Fulson 195480 Hillbilly Fever (2:52) Little Jimmy Dickens 195081 I'll Make Sweet Love To You (3:00) Maddox Brothers & Rose 195282 Diesel Smoke (2:34) Doye O'Dell 195283 Swing Down Sweet Chariot (3:36) The Spirit of Memphis 195184 Tiger Man (2:54) Rufus Thomas 195385 This Train (3:03) Rosetta Tharp/Louis Jordan 194386 My Happiness (3:35) Elvis Presley 195387 Harbor Lights (3:30) Elvis Presley 1954
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 7 May 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link
So good to see some recent ILM love for EP. Got to see the docu last night, ticked all my boxes. There was an ILM thread about doing sp0tify playlists for artists you liked, around 10 years ago. Anyway I did an Elvis primer. Hope links still work.
https://open.spotify.com/user/kwimper/playlist/425zoJTN0Cs6cv9aMOkHrBhttps://open.spotify.com/user/kwimper/playlist/0g32rk60x8xf0oc3v0IpAh
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 7 May 2018 20:44 (six years ago) link
Thanks, Hadrian VIII -- your mix will be road trip music next time I'm passing through Tupelo.
― Brad C., Monday, 7 May 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link
holy crap hadrian
what a service
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 7 May 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link
truly my pleasure
hey someone sent me a request but forgot to include their email address. let me know!
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 7 May 2018 23:37 (six years ago) link
Hadrian, it's awesome. Sent you a PM.
― Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 00:19 (six years ago) link
on it's way
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link
its
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 00:37 (six years ago) link
Elvis Presley: The Searcher is all right, but it's no Radio Free Shake Rag
― Brad C., Tuesday, 8 May 2018 02:40 (six years ago) link
aw
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link
hey someone sent me a request but forgot to include their email address. let me know!― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, May 8, 2018 12:37 AM (twenty-one hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, May 8, 2018 12:37 AM (twenty-one hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that's me! how do i do what needs to be done?
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link
if Elvis had lived and they did American Recordings style covers album i would want to hear him do Beck's "Lost Cause" also some Nick Cave and Misfits
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 00:41 (five years ago) link
Maybe Sistinas by Danzig, although that might be a little on the nose
― JRN, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link
There's a whole flood of ballads from the last thirty years that flowed into my head in Presley's voice: Waits' "Downtown Train", Nina Nastasia's "How Will You Love Me", Cave's "Are You the One I've Been Waiting For", Parton's "Wildflowers", Bonnie Prince Billy "Cursed Sleep," Welch's "No One Knows My Name" and Neko Case's "Set Out Running" and "Star Witness".
― Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link
i wanna hear Elvis sing "Hit Me Baby One More Time"
"My loneliness is killin' me, mama"
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link
i suppose Fakeapp-style voice AI will make things like this possible in the near future. i can already see Stereogum in 2020 posting an Elvis version of "All Star"
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link
Tried to email Hadrian, gave up on endless ilx captcha, oh well rock on DJ:https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/elvis-presley-drummer-dj-fontana-dead-at-87-w521520
― dow, Friday, 15 June 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link
I'd love to hear Elvis with the big TCB! band doing "Black Dog". You could do a cool arrangement with the horns and all those background singers.
― earlnash, Friday, 15 June 2018 02:32 (five years ago) link
cool revive
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Friday, 15 June 2018 05:00 (five years ago) link
RIP DJ Fontana :(
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 June 2018 05:11 (five years ago) link
The "Hound Dog" snare, man oh man. Ike and Tina Review circa 1972 give some idea what the TCB! band might have done with hard rock songs.
― Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, 15 June 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link
― dow, Thursday, June 14, 2018 9:14 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
aw dow I've been awol try me again
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 June 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link
I might be able to assist to help you guys connect without robomail if captcha was the problem. Check your emails in a few.
― And Nobody POLLS Like Me (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 June 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link
Got it got it got it, thanks so much Hadrian &/via James!!!
― dow, Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, June 5, 2018 8:41 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hahahaha
Also a duet with Bob Plant on “kashmir”
― calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:34 (five years ago) link
Thus Sprach Zarasthrutha / Kashmir” (Overture)
― calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2018 01:35 (five years ago) link