Kanye West's new 2018 album

I wouldn't assume that Kanye hasn't gotten help.

maga hat is a bad look even if you are being a contrarian asshole

― marcos, Wednesday, April 25, 2018

it's a tacky color

Twisted Fantasy?

sold 400,000 less than 808s

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, April 25, 2018

Not a good gauge as most everyone's sales have cratered since the late 2000s.

Is ILX really having an argument about whether Kanye West is popular?

Beyonce's only two top tens this decade as a lead artist are "Formation" and "Drunk in Love"; no one will deny she's "popular" in any sense.

I'd say Kanye West is more popular than CZARFACE but not as popular as Joey Bada$$

But is he as popular as J Cole?

probably not.

Cole kinda cannibalized the audience who missed the old Kanye, the chop-up-the-soul Kanye.

lol

I mean, he was going into a meeting with the head of Universal and the head of YouTube programming, presumably to talk about his upcoming releases, and I can imagine him thinking "What can I do to demonstrate the attention I can get at any moment? What if I get Donald Trump to retweet me while I'm in the meeting?"

It's like when DJ Kahled put out on Snapchat the address of CAA when he was going to meet with them, to demonstrate how he could a mass of people to show up for him.

Cole kinda cannibalized the audience who missed the old Kanye, the chop-up-the-soul Kanye.

― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili)

otm

Not a good gauge as most everyone's sales have cratered since the late 2000s.[

it's true, popular music is not as popular as it used to be!

but there were only 2 years between 808s and Twisted Fantasy, and the gap between 2008 and 2010 w/r/t the music industry doesn't seem as drastic as idk 2001 to 2003 or 2004 to 2007. but numbers don't lie

like hips!

Spotify is a music, podcast, and video streaming service launched on 7 October 2008.

there ya go. and spotify/streams weren't counted by Billboard until fairly recently right? like, within the last 3-4 years?

yeah album-equivalent is a pretty recent post-2010 development

But Spotify didn't launch in the US till 2011.

i was about to make that point

I can only go on the anecdotal examples of my friends and co-workers, who generally are only as racist to the extent all white people are racist, and I feel like they've all hated Kanye for like a decade now. Maybe it's a generational thing, it does feel like a lot of the breathless "Kanye can do no wrong" hypemanning that's been going on online for several years now up until recently has been driven by younger critics.

there's something very gross about a guy like Ben Shapiro (who wrote articles like "Rap is Crap") becoming a Kanye stan overnight

there's something very gross about a guy like Ben Shapiro.

cool that bestselling hiphop has its own Morrissey

new song is up
http://www.kanyewest.com

Straight trollin'

https://genius.com/14432967

The rap genius annotation for his poopy di scoop verse is a sight to behold

has anyone seen kanye and father john misty in the same room at the same time

another new song playing on POWER 106 FM on a loop http://www.power106.com

it's really stupid

Yeah the power 106 fm song is godawful, though it at least sounds like a one-off loosie

The production on Lift Yourself is at least pretty great

Song is freaking hilarious.

Yeah, poopy di scoop has sorta made my day! lol

But sure, the whole thing makes you seriously wonder about his mental health.

i like poopy di scoop makes me think of gertrude stein for some reason

also makes me think of a saying of dave bry's (a kanye fan btw), as ppl have been criticizing kanye's "dumb" lyrics lately:

"If you have a dumb idea, figure out how to make it dumber."

I've stolen this advice from Dave Bry and passed it to everyone I've managed.

— Chris Schonberger (@cschonberger) October 15, 2017

was m@tt saying kayne wasn't as popular as joey badass a joke or what lol

i forgive chance

WTF did I listen to and why

oh, T.I. paws

Something so irksome about seeing white people up in arms cause Chance said black people don't have to be democrats, even in the context of Kanye's bullshit.

He didn't have to apologise because of timing or whatever shit, he had to apologise because the same paternalism that drives that line of thinking, is of the same kind that gives white racists more power over the things that come out of black mouths, than black people.

i like poopy di scoop makes me think of gertrude stein for some reason

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, April 28, 2018 12:13 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Out of poopy comes di scoop, out of scoop comes diddy whoop. Out of whoop comes di scoop, out of di poop, poop di scoop di scoop di whoop.

was m@tt saying kayne wasn't as popular as joey badass a joke or what lol

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, April 28, 2018 2:19 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol the Czarface reference wasn't enough of a tell?

Tsrodobo otm

he’s not wrong but in the context of ye’s bullshit it sucked!

admittedly this is the thread where things suck

Yeah it def sucks, my thesis is that almost literally everything about this sucks

Song reminds me of limewire days where you thought you downloaded a song you wanted and then it ended being something else.

Lyrics to the other song:

I know Obama was Heaven-sent
But ever since Trump won it proved that I could be President

Yeah you can, at what cost though?
Don't that go against the teachings that Ye taught for?

Yo T.I.P, I hear your side and everybody talk though
But ain't goin' against the grain everything I fought for?

Prolly so, Ye, but where you tryna go with this?
It's some shit you don't align with and don't go against

You just readin' the headlines, you don't see the fine print
You on some choosin'-side shit, I'm on some unified shit

It's bigger than your selfish agenda
If your election ain't gon' stop police from murderin' niggas

Bruh, I never ever stopped fightin' for the people
Actually wearin' the hat'll show people that we're equal

You gotta see the finer point of the people
What makes you feel equal makes them feel evil

See that's the problem with this damn nation
All Blacks gotta be Democrats, man, we ain't made it off the plantation

Fuck what you choose as your political party
You representin' dudes who seem crude and cold-hearted
With blatant disregard for the people who put you niggas in
So don't you feel an obligation to them?

I feel an obligation to show people new ideas
And if you wanna hear 'em, here go two right here
Make America Great Again, had a negative reception
I took it, wore it, rocked it, gave it a new direction
Added empathy, care and love and affection
And y'all simply questionin' my methods

What you willin' to lose for the point to be proved?
This is stubborn selfish bullshit, even for you
You wore a dusty ass hat to represent the same views
As white supremacy, man, we expect better from you
All them times you sounded crazy, we defended you, homie
Now just be down and we depend on you, homie
That's why it's important to know what direction you're goin' now
'Cause everything that you built can be destroyed and torn down

You think I ain't concerned about how I effect the past?
I mean I had stayed in my closet about a year and a half
Then one day I was like, "Fuck it, I'ma do me"
I was in the sunken place and then I found the new me
Not worried 'bout some image that I gotta keep up
Lot of people agree with me, but they're too scared to speak up

The greater good of the people is first
Have you considered all the damage and the people you hurt?
You had a bad idea, and you're makin' it worse
Shit's just as bad as Catholic preachers rapin' in church

Y'all been leadin' with hate
I just be approaching it different
Like a gang truce
I know everybody emotional
Is it better if I rap about crack? Huh? 'Cause it's cultural?
Or how about I'ma shoot you, or fuck your bitch?
Or how about this gucci, because I'm fuckin' rich

?Dear to god? for the lack of respect
Started to make a scene like Donny cut you a check
Toyin' with hot lava, better be careful with that
What's it mean to gain the world if you ain't standin' for shit?

Okay I gotta say it, Ye, you sound high as a bitch
Yeah, genocide and slavery, we should just try and forget
All that free thought shit find a better defense
But if Ye's stuck in his way, he can leave it at that, Fuck it

Alright T.I.P., we could be rappin' about this all day, man, why don't we just cut the beat off and let the people talk?

So Kanye really wants to run for president... seems he’s at least self-aware enough to be in on the joke but this shit is still wack.

cool that he's ripping off Joyner Lucas now

My theory is he has been seriously approached by the Republicans to run for governor or something so he’s trying to fit it into his “controversial” persona, he knows how irksome it is deep down so he asks TI to challenge it and he answers in a political manner, not openly supporting Trump but the idea of ““unity” behind MAGA. Still this is all stupid and terrible.