Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

post MCIS hate, however

adore is the SP album i listen to the most, even though i might put MCIS or SD above it in the desert island scenario.

My view of Smashing Pumpkins is a little different in that I think that pretty much everything Corgan did up until (and including) the Zwan album is very good to excellent, and afterwards he never reached the same heights but still came up with some decent and highly listenable material.

i think adore ends up matching better with my mood and typical listening situation these days, or at least more often than SD does.

mood
https://i.imgur.com/jrgASKz.png

that had lasik yesterday mooooood

ahh this is a great show... they are all in outer space, high as shit, wearing dresses, inviting people on stage, closes with a cover of "The Joker"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ML4ryNNH0

Geek USA 1:22
Rocket 5:37
Bury Me 9:59
Window Paine 13:57
Tristessa 20:55
"Get up on stage and dance song" Jam 25:21
Siva 26:48
Hummer 32:44
I Am One 40:06
Silverfuck 45:11
Encore
56:31
The Joker (Cover) 57:47

ahh this is a great show... they are all in outer space, high as shit, wearing dresses, inviting people on stage, closes with a cover of "The Joker"

god bless early pumpkins

i skimmed down to the last line and read that as a cover of "The Joker" that was 57:47 long

lmao. it's a really fun cover

look man, this ain't Phish we're talking about here.

emptiness is jokeliness
and jokeliness is smokeliness
and smokeliness is tokeliness
and TOKIN'S MIDNIGHT,
JUST LIKE MEEEEEEE

i'm a joker. i'm a smoker. i'm al roker. super soaker. frog's a croaker...*54 minutes later*...i'm a midddniiiight toker.

Interview the next day: "Yeah, those hot licks in the long instrumental section of 'The Joker' were me, not Iha."

Wow, thanks for sharing that fun set! So badass that he plays the lead lick and sings at the same time during that "she waits, bury me" section. Kinda thing that inspires me to practice more.

oh shit, Slunk! I totally forgot about the Lull EP!

emptiness is jokeliness
and jokeliness is smokeliness
and smokeliness is tokeliness
and TOKIN'S MIDNIGHT,
JUST LIKE MEEEEEEE

It's taking a lot of restraint to not burst out laughing in my office, cheers

What are flappy bird's (or anyone's) choice recommendations of shows available on archive.org? I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I'm too lazy to dig through 100 Smashing Pumpkins thread to find it.

every adore show i've heard is great but i had a bootleg of the brussels show for years. i don't know if it's significantly better than any show of that era or if it was the only one i was able to acquire at the time https://archive.org/details/tsp1998-05-28.flac16

oh and it's also on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8F3M12Gxw4

(but i think the video edits out the performances of "ruby" and "perfect")

Cool!

a few off the top of my head

1993/06/29 - Studio 105 - Paris (acoustic)
1994/08/06 - Downing Stadium - Randall's Island, NY
1994/08/31 - Gorge Amphitheater - George, WA

1996/01/06 - 9:30 Club - Washington, DC
1996/04/16 - Messe-Congresscentrum B - Stuggart, DE
1996/06/15 - Golden Gate Park - San Francisco, CA (best Silverfuck ever)

Thanks!

1991/06/22 - Reckless Records - Chicago, IL
1991/12/31 - Metro - Chicago, IL
1992/09/08 - Espace Ornano - Paris, FR

that reckless records performance is great

ok ok a few more... just 1995, a weird live year for them:

1995/02/28 - Double Door - Chicago, IL (last of four DD shows played right before they started recording Mellon Collie. setlist is all new songs plus a couple from Pisces)
1995/08/23 - SFX Centre - Dublin, IE (not a good recording but by far the most enthusiastic and in tune crowd I've ever heard on a Pumpkins bootleg. the sound of everyone singing 'Today' still gives me chills)
1995/08/25 - Reading Festival - Reading, UK (major debut of MCIS material)
1995/10/23 - Riviera Theater - Chicago, IL (infamous 'blackout' show, power cuts out during the second song, simulcast on radio all over the world)
1995/12/12 - Melkweg - Amsterdam, NL (final show before 1996)

I had the feeling you'd have quite a list. :D

do you have a favorite 98 show flappy

several!

1998/01/15 - Viper Room - Los Angeles, CA (Billy solo, James solo opens)
1998/05/14 - Spielbudenplatz - Hamburg, DE
1998/07/29 - DAR Constitution Hall - Washington, DC
1998/08/04 - Fox Theater - Atlanta, GA
1998/12/12 - Shrine Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA (Billy w/ Mike Garson)

because i'm insane and have more time now i picked a show from every year of the original lineup's run:

1988/10/05 - Metro - Chicago, IL (first show with Jimmy / full original lineup / opening for Jane's Addiction)
1989/03/16 - WZRD-FM Studios - Chicago, IL (all pre-Gish songs except Rhinoceros, opens with an awesome cover of Venus in Furs)
1990/06/16 - Club de Wash - Madison, WI (embryonic Gish songs & some rarities)
1991/02/12 - CBGB's - New York, NY (first NYC show, band is on fire)
1992/07/23 - Metro - Chicago, IL (semi-acoustic, gradually becomes electric encore is first ever performance of Starla)
1993/08/23 - Melody - Stockholm, SE (great quality SBD, not as aggressive as most SD era shows, Billy's singing is closer to the album)
1994/08/28 - Shoreline Ampitheater - Mountain View, CA (band starts playing rarities halfway thru bc of bored crowd)
1995/10/19 - Madison Theater - Peoria, IL (another MCIS warmup show, second to last Hummer ever w/ original lineup)
1996/02/29 - Thai-Japan Metropolitan Youth Center - Bangkok, TH (really dark show, so fast, Jimmy OD'd after the show)
1997/06/28 - Roskilde Festival - Roskilde, DK (this or Glastonbury are the best summer 1997 festival shows)
1998/07/10 - Will Rodgers Auditorium - Fort Worth, TX (great quality, features every song on Adore)
1999/04/10 - St. Andrew's Hall - Detroit, MI (first Arising! show, first show with Jimmy back)
2000/12/02 - Metro - Chicago, IL (the final show. doesn't get any heavier than this...)

BONUS: D'arcy's last show, last time the original lineup played together on stage 1999/04/24 - Roxy - Los Angeles, CA

1998/07/10 - Will Rodgers Auditorium - Fort Worth, TX (great quality, features every song on Adore)

:O

the Silverfuck that ends the final show is such a harrowing listen. it's a shame that it's incomplete, though at 25 minutes you get the idea.

yeah brad that show is awesome

every time the live version of "to sheila" starts i expect it to turn into "czarina"

i'm a joker. i'm a smoker. i'm al roker. super soaker. frog's a croaker...*54 minutes later*...i'm a midddniiiight toker.

― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:48 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

loooooool

i feel bad for not participating itt or the poll at all, sp just aren't where my head is at right now so i couldn't pull it together but they were for sure my favorite band for a few years as a teenager

that reckless records performance is great

Three songs in, this is pretty hot, yeah.

1998/07/10 - Will Rodgers Auditorium - Fort Worth, TX (great quality, features every song on Adore)

:O

This was the last SP show I went to, and the only time I met Billy.

Or maybe the Grand Ol Opry show on the same tour was later?

I almost posted that one because it’s all acoustic

I can almost enjoy these. I just wish the sound quality was better.

still fun to skip through, though, so thanks

Is there a SBD filter on archive? There a few in that list, but here's a nice show from 1993, all acoustic, v good quality

1993/07/04 - Raymond Revuebar - London, UK

01. *Intro*
02. Rocket
03. Cherub Rock
04. Rhinoceros
05. Today
06. Spaceboy
07. Siva
08. Dancin' in the Moonlight (Thin Lizzy)
09. Disarm
10. Starla
11. Outshined (Soundgarden) (tease)
12. Suffer
13. Hummer
14. Drown
15. *banter*
16. Kooks (Bowie)
17. Smiley
18. Bye June
19. *banter*
20. Crush

there's also this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE2tQ1Fjg24

Is there a SBD filter on archive?

I don't think you can filter on it, because its part of the free text, but the search function's at the top left (on the desktop site anyway). SBD, soundboard, and matrix each bring up results.

Just out there trying to find SP fun facts and found this interesting:

http://loudwire.com/billy-corgan-singles-soundtrack-slight-smashing-pumpkins-drown/

I very much remember hearing Drown once or twice on the radio and then mysteriously disappearing.

Has anyone other than Corgan backed up that version of events?

Ha ha, good point. Dicey territory there.