post MCIS hate, however
adore is the SP album i listen to the most, even though i might put MCIS or SD above it in the desert island scenario.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link
My view of Smashing Pumpkins is a little different in that I think that pretty much everything Corgan did up until (and including) the Zwan album is very good to excellent, and afterwards he never reached the same heights but still came up with some decent and highly listenable material.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link
i think adore ends up matching better with my mood and typical listening situation these days, or at least more often than SD does.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link
moodhttps://i.imgur.com/jrgASKz.png
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link
that had lasik yesterday mooooood
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
ahh this is a great show... they are all in outer space, high as shit, wearing dresses, inviting people on stage, closes with a cover of "The Joker"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ML4ryNNH0
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link
Geek USA 1:22Rocket 5:37Bury Me 9:59Window Paine 13:57Tristessa 20:55"Get up on stage and dance song" Jam 25:21Siva 26:48Hummer 32:44I Am One 40:06Silverfuck 45:11Encore56:31The Joker (Cover) 57:47
god bless early pumpkins
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link
i skimmed down to the last line and read that as a cover of "The Joker" that was 57:47 long
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:44 (six years ago) link
lmao. it's a really fun cover
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:44 (six years ago) link
look man, this ain't Phish we're talking about here.
― how's life, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link
emptiness is jokelinessand jokeliness is smokelinessand smokeliness is tokelinessand TOKIN'S MIDNIGHT,JUST LIKE MEEEEEEE
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link
i'm a joker. i'm a smoker. i'm al roker. super soaker. frog's a croaker...*54 minutes later*...i'm a midddniiiight toker.
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link
Interview the next day: "Yeah, those hot licks in the long instrumental section of 'The Joker' were me, not Iha."
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link
Wow, thanks for sharing that fun set! So badass that he plays the lead lick and sings at the same time during that "she waits, bury me" section. Kinda thing that inspires me to practice more.
― Fetchboy, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link
oh shit, Slunk! I totally forgot about the Lull EP!
― Fetchboy, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
It's taking a lot of restraint to not burst out laughing in my office, cheers
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:40 (six years ago) link
What are flappy bird's (or anyone's) choice recommendations of shows available on archive.org? I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I'm too lazy to dig through 100 Smashing Pumpkins thread to find it.
― how's life, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link
every adore show i've heard is great but i had a bootleg of the brussels show for years. i don't know if it's significantly better than any show of that era or if it was the only one i was able to acquire at the time https://archive.org/details/tsp1998-05-28.flac16
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link
oh and it's also on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8F3M12Gxw4
(but i think the video edits out the performances of "ruby" and "perfect")
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link
Cool!
― how's life, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link
a few off the top of my head
1993/06/29 - Studio 105 - Paris (acoustic)1994/08/06 - Downing Stadium - Randall's Island, NY1994/08/31 - Gorge Amphitheater - George, WA
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
1996/01/06 - 9:30 Club - Washington, DC1996/04/16 - Messe-Congresscentrum B - Stuggart, DE1996/06/15 - Golden Gate Park - San Francisco, CA (best Silverfuck ever)
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link
Thanks!
― how's life, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link
1991/06/22 - Reckless Records - Chicago, IL1991/12/31 - Metro - Chicago, IL1992/09/08 - Espace Ornano - Paris, FR
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link
that reckless records performance is great
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link
ok ok a few more... just 1995, a weird live year for them:
1995/02/28 - Double Door - Chicago, IL (last of four DD shows played right before they started recording Mellon Collie. setlist is all new songs plus a couple from Pisces)1995/08/23 - SFX Centre - Dublin, IE (not a good recording but by far the most enthusiastic and in tune crowd I've ever heard on a Pumpkins bootleg. the sound of everyone singing 'Today' still gives me chills)1995/08/25 - Reading Festival - Reading, UK (major debut of MCIS material)1995/10/23 - Riviera Theater - Chicago, IL (infamous 'blackout' show, power cuts out during the second song, simulcast on radio all over the world)1995/12/12 - Melkweg - Amsterdam, NL (final show before 1996)
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link
I had the feeling you'd have quite a list. :D
― how's life, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link
do you have a favorite 98 show flappy
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link
several!
1998/01/15 - Viper Room - Los Angeles, CA (Billy solo, James solo opens)1998/05/14 - Spielbudenplatz - Hamburg, DE1998/07/29 - DAR Constitution Hall - Washington, DC1998/08/04 - Fox Theater - Atlanta, GA1998/12/12 - Shrine Auditorium - Los Angeles, CA (Billy w/ Mike Garson)
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
because i'm insane and have more time now i picked a show from every year of the original lineup's run:
1988/10/05 - Metro - Chicago, IL (first show with Jimmy / full original lineup / opening for Jane's Addiction)1989/03/16 - WZRD-FM Studios - Chicago, IL (all pre-Gish songs except Rhinoceros, opens with an awesome cover of Venus in Furs)1990/06/16 - Club de Wash - Madison, WI (embryonic Gish songs & some rarities)1991/02/12 - CBGB's - New York, NY (first NYC show, band is on fire)1992/07/23 - Metro - Chicago, IL (semi-acoustic, gradually becomes electric encore is first ever performance of Starla)1993/08/23 - Melody - Stockholm, SE (great quality SBD, not as aggressive as most SD era shows, Billy's singing is closer to the album)1994/08/28 - Shoreline Ampitheater - Mountain View, CA (band starts playing rarities halfway thru bc of bored crowd)1995/10/19 - Madison Theater - Peoria, IL (another MCIS warmup show, second to last Hummer ever w/ original lineup)1996/02/29 - Thai-Japan Metropolitan Youth Center - Bangkok, TH (really dark show, so fast, Jimmy OD'd after the show)1997/06/28 - Roskilde Festival - Roskilde, DK (this or Glastonbury are the best summer 1997 festival shows)1998/07/10 - Will Rodgers Auditorium - Fort Worth, TX (great quality, features every song on Adore)1999/04/10 - St. Andrew's Hall - Detroit, MI (first Arising! show, first show with Jimmy back)2000/12/02 - Metro - Chicago, IL (the final show. doesn't get any heavier than this...)
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link
BONUS: D'arcy's last show, last time the original lineup played together on stage 1999/04/24 - Roxy - Los Angeles, CA
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:52 (six years ago) link
1998/07/10 - Will Rodgers Auditorium - Fort Worth, TX (great quality, features every song on Adore)
:O
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link
the Silverfuck that ends the final show is such a harrowing listen. it's a shame that it's incomplete, though at 25 minutes you get the idea.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
yeah brad that show is awesome
every time the live version of "to sheila" starts i expect it to turn into "czarina"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, April 10, 2018 1:48 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
loooooool
― marcos, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:03 (six years ago) link
i feel bad for not participating itt or the poll at all, sp just aren't where my head is at right now so i couldn't pull it together but they were for sure my favorite band for a few years as a teenager
― marcos, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link
Three songs in, this is pretty hot, yeah.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link
1998/07/10 - Will Rodgers Auditorium - Fort Worth, TX (great quality, features every song on Adore):O
This was the last SP show I went to, and the only time I met Billy.
Or maybe the Grand Ol Opry show on the same tour was later?
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 23:41 (six years ago) link
I almost posted that one because it’s all acoustic
― flappy bird, Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link
I can almost enjoy these. I just wish the sound quality was better.
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 12 April 2018 05:03 (six years ago) link
still fun to skip through, though, so thanks
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 12 April 2018 05:04 (six years ago) link
Is there a SBD filter on archive? There a few in that list, but here's a nice show from 1993, all acoustic, v good quality
1993/07/04 - Raymond Revuebar - London, UK
01. *Intro*02. Rocket 03. Cherub Rock 04. Rhinoceros 05. Today 06. Spaceboy 07. Siva 08. Dancin' in the Moonlight (Thin Lizzy)09. Disarm 10. Starla 11. Outshined (Soundgarden) (tease)12. Suffer 13. Hummer 14. Drown 15. *banter*16. Kooks (Bowie)17. Smiley 18. Bye June 19. *banter*20. Crush
― flappy bird, Thursday, 12 April 2018 05:30 (six years ago) link
there's also this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE2tQ1Fjg24
― flappy bird, Thursday, 12 April 2018 05:57 (six years ago) link
Is there a SBD filter on archive?
I don't think you can filter on it, because its part of the free text, but the search function's at the top left (on the desktop site anyway). SBD, soundboard, and matrix each bring up results.
― how's life, Thursday, 12 April 2018 09:06 (six years ago) link
Just out there trying to find SP fun facts and found this interesting:
http://loudwire.com/billy-corgan-singles-soundtrack-slight-smashing-pumpkins-drown/
I very much remember hearing Drown once or twice on the radio and then mysteriously disappearing.
― how's life, Thursday, 12 April 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link
Has anyone other than Corgan backed up that version of events?
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 April 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link
Ha ha, good point. Dicey territory there.
― how's life, Thursday, 12 April 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link