dammmmmmn what a top ten. would never in a million years have imagined "hummer" so high. it's such a great album cut, never think of it as one of the great anthems or anything but it is hard to find much wrong with it and clearly it has much to appeal both to Vig-era fans and the Gish die-hards. and i for one think "life's a BUMMER!" is an awesome moment and a major enhancement to the song. lol at "I like to imagine this song predicts the commercial failure of Hum." hot damn at Drown as #3. strong chance it would have been #1 if it'd been on an album?
mayonaise, which i had at #6, beating 1979, which i had way down at #23, is what seals the deal for me. this is an awesome countdown. thanks ufo, this rocks, and let me also join the chorus praising the rollout graphics and typesetting.
i almost had "here's to the atom bomb" in my ballot and then the only version i could find for my listening playlist was the one from the greatest hits which i'd never heard before and was SO WRONG that it kinda put me off thinking about or listening to the song.
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:51 (eight years ago)
i also like the o.g. machina version as a two chord raveup, it doesn't really work but it's interesting xp to ray
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:51 (eight years ago)
Where is the other version of "Atom Bomb"? There's only one on Machina II, right? (Going to admit that I don't remember what it sounds like.)2xp I guess that's the answer but lol that it was on a greatest hits album.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:52 (eight years ago)
Doctor Casino I feel this
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:52 (eight years ago)
Gish IS Vig-era!
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:53 (eight years ago)
the other version of Atom Bomb was a Machina b-side
― ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:54 (eight years ago)
Sund4r this is the greatest hits version, which has always seemed like the wrong version to my ears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjUklMu7H3I
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:54 (eight years ago)
Bolded ones are the ones that placed in the top 66.
Here's to the Atom Bomb (New Wave)<b>Zero</b><b>Rhinoceros</b><b> Appels + Oranjes </b><b> Pug </b><b> Wound </b>Jupiter's Lament<b> Galapagos </b>The Imploding VoiceCrestfallen<b> Spaceboy </b> <b> Beautiful </b><b> Bullet with Butterfly Wings </b><b> For Martha </b><b> Glass and the Ghost Children </b><b> Today </b>LandslideTarantulaJellybellyTry, Try, TryLet Me Give The World to YouThe Everlasting GazeDrossMedellia of the Gray SkiesThe Pistachio Medley
Man, I can't do HTML to save my life
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:55 (eight years ago)
lol duh oops abt Vig. sub "SD era"
came close to this being my first ILM poll where my entire ballot placed. "This Time" at #25 (73 in the results) was the exception. "Rocket," my #1 made it to 13, and all of my top ten made the top twenty except for "Muzzle" which I had at #2 and "Where Boys Fear To Tread," my #5.
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:55 (eight years ago)
your HTML is fine but sadly ILX uses bbcode (trust that button next to "Submit Post" on desktop)
and let me also join the chorus praising the rollout graphics and typesetting.
Oh yeah this as well! Always really liked the band's choice of similar-but-different fonts across the SD/MCIS/Adore art so was really happy to see them being used on the rollout images.
― Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:00 (eight years ago)
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness LunaPorcelina of the Vast OceansGalapagosMeladori MagpieRotten ApplesBlank Page1979I of the MourningSnailJellybellyHere is No WhyHummerX.Y.U.Thirty-threeRocketBeautifulTodayCherub RockVanityIf There is a GodTales of a Scorched EarthHello Kitty KatMarquis in SpadesWound
― flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:03 (eight years ago)
My list, bold didn't place:
MayonaiseThirty-ThreeWhirTo ForgivePerfectStarlaSomaSpaceboy1979Medellia of the Gray SkiesMellon Collie and the Infinite SadnessStand Inside Your LoveThis TimeTonight, TonightCherub RockGalapagosLunaPulseczarThe Imploding VoiceSilverfuckThru the Eyes of RubyCupid de LockeDaydreamBury MeX.Y.U.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:04 (eight years ago)
84 Fuck You (An Ode To No One) 58 3 0100 Landslide 34 4 0120 The Everlasting Gaze 8 1 0
sadly not the locks on the top tier that some thought. who on earth voted for "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning"?!
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:04 (eight years ago)
no one else voted for Blank Page?
― flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:04 (eight years ago)
I like the cover of "Landslide" fine but that would have been a hilarious pick for a top 10 entry.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:06 (eight years ago)
Blank Page was 45
― ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:07 (eight years ago)
blank page placed flappy
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:08 (eight years ago)
Oh shit lol my b
― flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:09 (eight years ago)
Dang i must’ve missed that round
i even posted the live video in your absence
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:11 (eight years ago)
Ha, I actually prefer the GH version of "Atom Bomb".
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:11 (eight years ago)
The GH version isn't horrible - it's probably just that thing about preferring the first version I heard of a song.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:12 (eight years ago)
― flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:16 (eight years ago)
Whoa, that was a near-perfect Top 10. Only problem I have with it is 'For Martha' isn't in it.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:17 (eight years ago)
To elaborate: the M2 version of "Bomb" feels like some heartsick, washed out, electronic end-of-the-world. It's as far removed from the band's beginnings as possible; it's barely human except for the singing, super programmed, cybernetic, weird. So when Corgan's voice cuts out at the end there it's as though he's been deleted, and the vocal or lack thereof becomes the gap he's been singing about for the length of that song (though the song itself seems to be about Corgan himself, or the persona he put forth, and being older but still kind of being the same outsider figure, etc). It's a quietly devastating ending to this song.
The GH version has this sunny, twangy guitar that lends it feel that's totally different and somehow less sad and final.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:19 (eight years ago)
He's been deleted, or he's deleted himself - that's another way to think about it. This is probably the only Pumpkins song I've spent time overthinking this way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwWcO_oLLCM
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:25 (eight years ago)
i associate "atom bomb" strongly with kid a and amnesiac-era radiohead bc i was listening to both a lot at the time so i definitely understand the "lead singer erasing himself" vibe you get from it
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:32 (eight years ago)
Interesting angle - I wonder if Corgan was/is a Radiohead fan?
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:34 (eight years ago)
suspect he liked the records but hated their success. critics always putting him in the back.
― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:43 (eight years ago)
Made a playlist of my ballot, which I think will be a v enjoyable way to listen to this band: https://open.spotify.com/user/1297256761/playlist/6EaySAiougJgnxwZdXSaiQ?si=UpkfjWPRT0OLWa92NJ7zDQ
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:43 (eight years ago)
think the only song i don't like in the complete results is the "dreaming" cover
Sorry, Brad.
1979ZeroGalapogosThirty-ThreeMuzzleTonight, TonightOnce Upon a TimeDreamingPorcelina of the Vast Oceans Bullet With Butterfly WingsCupid de LockeTry Try TryHere Is No WhyJellybellyRocketClones (We're All)
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:46 (eight years ago)
it's ok i just don't think the arrangement adds anything to the song. good ballot!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:47 (eight years ago)
Thanks!
It's a radical enough transformation that I feel that it and the original come off as different songs, which happens far less often with covers than it should.
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:51 (eight years ago)
None of us voted for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeDiARw8q78
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:51 (eight years ago)
true enough xp
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:52 (eight years ago)
oh what's everyone's favorite sp cover. i hate most of them but wow do i love their "never let me down again"
As an aside, the other cover I voted for ("Clones") is one where I had never actually heard the original until very recently. I was surprised how faithful the Pumpkins version turned out to be. Never expected something so New Wavey from Alice Cooper!
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:53 (eight years ago)
I like "Girl Named Sandoz" but tbf I think I only know the two on PI + Corgan's version of "To Love Somebody". xp
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:54 (eight years ago)
the "dancing in the moonlight" cover was also the first thing i encountered that suggested thin lizzy had innumerable jams beyond "the boys are back in town." good choice and pretty faithful iirc
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:55 (eight years ago)
I like all of the covers on Aeroplane well enough, minus "My Blue Heaven," which is such an ill-advised mismatch of song and performer that it comes off as genuinely unpleasant, to me.
― Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:56 (eight years ago)
Dreaming is my favorite cover of theirs. Had I woken up earlier I would've posted a fake #1/#2 entry for Jackie Blue/You're All I've Got Tonight
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:59 (eight years ago)
the Landslide cover is classic obviously. Never Let Me Down is the best from Aeroplane. as far as live covers go the Space Oddity one they were doing a few years back was solid
I thought about doing a fake entry for United States in the top 10 but didn't have time to make an image for it
― ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:03 (eight years ago)
'Never Let Me Down Again' is a great version which even got the seal of approval from Depeche Mode themselves. Their cover of 'A Night Like This', on the other hand, is fucking shocking.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:10 (eight years ago)
Should we have a separate covers poll?
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:14 (eight years ago)
MayonaiseStand Inside Your Love1979For MarthaSet the Ray to JerryHere Is No WhyPerfectSomaBehold! The Night MareGalapagosPugThirty-ThreeBlank PageTonight, TonightMuzzleBlew AwayReal LoveGeek USAHummerCherub RockBury MeI Of the MourningGoWoundMedelia of the Grey Skies
― Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:23 (eight years ago)
SivaI Am OneDrown1979SilverfuckRhinocerosBury MeStarlaEyeFrail & BedazzledPerfectSet the Ray to JerryRocketPissant*QuietSufferWhirTristessa*Hello Kitty KatSnailWindow Paine*SomaLandslide*Mayonaise (sic)Obscured
Obviously I’m a “I like their earlier stuff better” dummy (probably because I got Gish when it came out and it was the torpid meandering summer after high school and I played that mysterious cassette over and over until it disintegrated) but this rollout got me listening to the whole catalog again and finding all sorts of gems I’d slept on all these years. Thanks!
― orifex, Sunday, 8 April 2018 18:35 (eight years ago)
1. Hummer 2. Set the Ray to Jerry 3. Muzzle 4. In The Arms of Sleep 5. Blank Page 6. Frail and Bedazzled 7. By Starlight 8. Soothe 9. Appels + Oranjes 10. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans 11. Farewell and Goodnight 12. Suffer 13. Starla 14. Glynis 15. Here Is No Why 16. 1979 17. Drown 18. For Martha 19. Love 20. Pennies 21. Thru the Eyes of Ruby 22. Obscured 23. Whir 24. Soma 25. Annie Dog
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 8 April 2018 19:28 (eight years ago)
BeautifulFarewell And GoodnightShameTear1979EyeSet The Ray To JerryLoveWe Only Come Out At NightThe BoyThrough the Eyes of RubyTake Me DownDaphne DescendsBelieveApples & OranjesBlew AwayPorcelina of the Vast OceansBlank PageMuzzlePerfectGalapagosPugBy StarlightBodiesBugg Superstar
Didn't think I'd submit a ballot until the last day or so, and whether I'd submit a 2.5 song ballot or an all-James ballot, but ... eh. Always wish the Neu!-ish opening of "Cherub Rock" had breathed for a little longer ... flappy, I guess you're the person who'd know if there's a demo/live version around which does that? Glad "... Jerry" placed as high as it did!
― etc, Sunday, 8 April 2018 20:00 (eight years ago)