definitely the best Billy ever pulled off the huge gothic skirt thing he tried a number of times
― ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:20 (eight years ago)
queer utopia where everyone is wearing enormous gowns and the most traditional representation of masculinity sits on a toilet throne
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:21 (eight years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/NbIXs4C.jpg5. Soma844 points, 24 votes, 4 #1 votesFrom: Siamese Dream, 1993
― ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:23 (eight years ago)
this is prob my favorite ilx poll since.. van? maybe my favorite ever
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:31 (eight years ago)
[Guitar Solo]
― jmm, Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:33 (eight years ago)
def the song I was most obsessed with as a #teen and the first time I really understood the power of dynamics
― Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:35 (eight years ago)
I guess if Landslide is gonna place, it's gonna have to happen really damn soon.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:37 (eight years ago)
nah
― Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:45 (eight years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/1sf8Djv.jpg4. Hummer888 points, 24 votes, 5 #1 votesFrom: Siamese Dream, 1993
― ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:47 (eight years ago)
These last three together are killing me. This is everything great about Pumpkins in their prime.
― jmm, Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:51 (eight years ago)
XpI'd take rhinoceros over starla any day. The proggy bombast of the latter does not help. In a way the soaring reminds me of gybe! And i miss a melody. Rhinoceros on the other hand i totally love with all my heart. The outer space beginning, the slow and tender tune evolving and hanging there for such a long time, and then the guitar-feedback explosion. It's all in there. Such a simple, effective song. Probably the one song which i'd choose by them.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:51 (eight years ago)
5 #1s!
― Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:53 (eight years ago)
I like to imagine this song predicts the commercial failure of Hum
― Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:54 (eight years ago)
Yeah, Rhinoceros is the one my adult self would keep...
― MikoMcha, Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:54 (eight years ago)
lol i thought "it'd be funny if hummer placed right after soma" and lo
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:55 (eight years ago)
my dim hope is mayonaise bests 1979
― Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 15:56 (eight years ago)
fine with either winning but only one is on my ballot
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:00 (eight years ago)
who knows maybe "drown" won
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:01 (eight years ago)
I'm really hoping for that!
― how's life, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:02 (eight years ago)
"rocket" was the first song with more than one no. 1 voter. wow @ "hummer" having five
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:03 (eight years ago)
Hummer-Cherub Rock-Soma were my top 3 in that order, but they could have probably been in any order.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:04 (eight years ago)
I only realized after the voting period that my top 2 both include musical quotes from Rush:
https://youtu.be/stBOhNxLrbM?t=4m34shttps://youtu.be/1pcNP9JE0bs?t=6m9s
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:06 (eight years ago)
And I think flappy pointed this one out:https://youtu.be/2UU62UcP_BA?t=3m53shttps://youtu.be/q-KE9lvU810?t=18s
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:08 (eight years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/fZ1oMJK.jpg3. Drown920 poits, 26 votes, 3 #1 votesFrom: Singles: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack, 1992
― ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:09 (eight years ago)
amazing
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:10 (eight years ago)
heh, I voted for every song in the top 10. What do I win?
― jmm, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:10 (eight years ago)
3-6 is my top 4.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:11 (eight years ago)
Hummer was my #3 but it could easily have been #1 on another day.
― Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:11 (eight years ago)
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i think this one oddly supports my point that jimmy is a very busy drummer but never actually sounds busy
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:11 (eight years ago)
I guessed 20 MCIS tracks but we're getting 21.
― Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:11 (eight years ago)
This didn't make my ballot since I, um, didn't know it until I had voted. It's p sweet, though. Nice SY-style noise jam.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:11 (eight years ago)
I had Drown at #9 or something, should've been higher.
― Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:12 (eight years ago)
I've heard "Drown" before but...I don't remember it.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:13 (eight years ago)
Drown is a great discovery, thanks ILM.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:14 (eight years ago)
Drown has such a great groove and build, and then that beautiful 4-minute feedback jam!
― ufo, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:15 (eight years ago)
"drown" is the perfect gish/sd transitional track i think, even more than "starla" which feels like its own thing. you can hear where they are and where they're going simultaneously
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:16 (eight years ago)
Through its ascending repetition, it's almost like a Reich or Glass piece, except as an ode to the elevating potential of Rock. It's in many ways the opposite of most things I look for in music, especially in guitar-and-bass-and-drums-based music. Which only makes me trust my love of it more--and it's been almost the only SP song I've felt the need to put on periodically over the last 20 years since I otherwise walked away. It still gives me the same feeling of soaring, yearning possibility as when I was 14 and Smashing Pumpkins meant the world to me. For me, "Starla" is Smashing Pumpkins.
Controp: "Starla" always bums me out a little because it seems like it's going for what I DO often look for in music but it always seems like there's something missing from that huge solo and climax; it's just a little too basic and lands slightly off the mark. I'll try one more time.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:19 (eight years ago)
smoke some w33d beforehand imo
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:20 (eight years ago)
Huh, that might be what's missing.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:22 (eight years ago)
oh wait sorry i did not mean to be extremely dismissive about "cherub rock" itt bc you know how on the last repetition of the chorus there's that, like, really bright chord droning through the whole thing? that's the best thing in the sp catalog
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:22 (eight years ago)
last minute or so of "cherub" is really a guitar symphony
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:23 (eight years ago)
idk I love "starla" but I don't partoke xxp
― Simon H., Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:23 (eight years ago)
lol sorry to bring up weed i'm just a big stoner these days
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:24 (eight years ago)
(bc of anxiety and i gave up drinking)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:25 (eight years ago)
but "starla" *is* really great... on weed
So I guess "Today" and "Rocket" are 1 and 2? Interesting.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:26 (eight years ago)
It's awesome that so many people are apparently discovering "Drown" for the firdt time--because that suggests almost everyone who *did* know it had it very high in their lists. Wonder if it has the highest median/mean/average position?
― Soundslike, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:26 (eight years ago)
"drown" was actually in the lower reaches of my list but that's no knock against it considering at least half of the ballot was vying for no. 1 simultaneously
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:27 (eight years ago)
https://media.giphy.com/media/Chnyt9Au7DZW8/giphy.gif
― flappy bird, Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:27 (eight years ago)
Okay, Googled and revisited "Drown." Coming back to me now.
Here's the problem, probably: I didn't encounter drown until 2002 or 2003, when I copped the Pumpkins' best-of. Never heard the Singles soundtrack; no one hipped me to this song. It was never something I experienced in the bloom of my Pumpkins fandom (which, to be honest, has been done for a while) and so it came across as just another really nice, Pumpkins Prime jam - like encountering Nirvana's "You Know You're Right" whenever that emerged.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 8 April 2018 16:27 (eight years ago)