Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

lmao

In addition to what flappy was saying about it, "Medley" also serves as the first formal peek behind the curtain that let us see just how insane the editing process to create MCIS must have been AND how massively prolific Corgan was at that moment in time.

(I'm sure hardcore fans already knew how prolific the band was, of course, by 1995.)

Yeah. Almost none of those songs even became B sides (iirc the only one is The Aeroplane Flies High & that very early version of X.Y.U. called Rachel). Even their C sides were awesome. I find myself playing So Very Sad About Us, Rigamarole, Camaro, Spazzmatazz (my old namesake!), A Dog’s Prayer, Lucky Lad, and Flipper a lot when I have access to a half stack.

Oh wait I remember spazzmatazz!

Anyways, I voted for Hello Kitty Kat, Siva, Muzzle, and Frail and Bedazzled--my #1

Also really love Snail, Whir, and Zero (which is too low, one instance when the SPIN list was right)

Going to be really weird if "Everlasting Gaze" is in the top 20, beating out so many better classics. "Stand Inside Your Love" I can see as it's the best MACHINA track.

I think Medley will place

If "Medley" placed butnot "Marquis" or "God" or "Pennies" or especially "Mouths of Babes" that would be kinda strange. I like all of those songs better than anything on MCIS...

To no-one's surprise, we've got nothing in this songs rollout post-Machina II.

I think Medley will place

I should’ve voted for it

I think I had "Whir" at #7 but listening again today it should've been higher.

Whir is like a breath of spring air

Ha, I always associate it with winter!

(Probably because that's when I got it.)

Guesses for the Top 20:

Perfect, 1979, Set the Ray to Jerry, Mayonnaise, Soma, Today, Thirty-three, Soma, Cherub Rock, Stand Inside Your Love, Daydream, Rhinoceros, Landslide (if it counts), Hummer, Jellybelly, Fuck You (An Ode to No One, Drown, Rocket, Here Is No Why, Thru the Eyes of Ruby

That pretty much accounts for the hitherto unplaced songs on my ballot!

swap out Landslide for Porcelina

There's also Geek USA, Starla, and Everlasting Gaze. I'd probably swap out Fuck You and Here Is No Why.

Yeah, I'll be a little sad if "Geek USA" doesn't place.

Maybe Everlasting Gaze didn't place. It's hard to imagine it beating Bullet with Butterfly Wings and Zero.

yeah theres no way

Geek USA will absolutely place.

My list was slightly skewed against fast/heavy/fun Pumpkins songs, but Geek USA is the best in that category.

Geek USA was my gateway into the second, singles-free half of the album - it wears its catchiness right up front. I actually was kind of underrating it as the lesser/simpler/accessible piece of that set, as I've come to adore Soma, Mayonaise and Silverfuck. I had to go back and listen to realize, no, you don't just have to be 16, it really is fantastic.

Yeah, I'll replace "Drown" with "Geek" cuz I don't think "Drown" has enough pull to get it listed.

Top 20 Prediction:
Perfect, 1979, Set the Ray to Jerry, Mayonnaise, Soma, Today, Thirty-three, Soma, Cherub Rock, Stand Inside Your Love, Daydream, Rhinoceros, Landslide (if it counts), Hummer, Jellybelly, Fuck You (An Ode to No One, Geek USA, Rocket, Here Is No Why, Thru the Eyes of Ruby

woah woah woah no way does Drown have less pull than Landslide. maybe I was talking crazy to imagine it as #1 and it won't be on EVERY ballot but I can imagine enough ppl had it in the top half that it shows up.

Geek fucking rules but didn't vote for it per the live rule.

Songs that are perfect as recorded that I didn't vote for: Zero, Bodies, Fuck You, The Aeroplane Flies High, Where Boys Fear to Tread, Bullet, Plume, Frail and Bedazzled, Drown, Mouths of Babes, Stand Inside Your Love, The Imploding Voice.

xp who tf voted for Landslide

Crazy talk, I didn’t even have to relisten to Drown for it to be top 5 in my ballot.

also would never have taken "perfect" to be any kind of contender but maybe I don't talk to pumpkins fans enough.... it's nice and all, but kinda watery and idk not super memorable to me.

Maybe "Drown" replaces "Fuck You (An Ode to No One)". That's not my favorite song by any stretch (probably wouldn't make my top 60) but I had a feeling it'd beat out a lot of the Machina tracks for inclusion.

I can't imagine Fuck You placing above Drown, as much as I prefer it.

They really fucked up "Perfect" by writing it in the studio. The arrangement of the version they played on "SNL" could've been a hit but instead we got an overproduced song that buried the hooks.

"Perfect" on SNL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnWRByYTVmA

You also have Soma in your list twice so that frees up one space.

No, It should be in the Top 20 twice ;-)

They really fucked up "Perfect" by writing it in the studio. The arrangement of the version they played on "SNL" could've been a hit but instead we got an overproduced song that buried the hooks.

― FourLegsGood, Saturday, April 7, 2018 7:04 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a what that whatted the what

The final two will be neck-and-neck between Soma and Soma (instrumental mix)

yea "perfect" is p much ~perfect~ as it is on Adore. live performances might have more heft but I don't think any hooks are buried on the studio version.

Geek fucking rules but didn't vote for it per the live rule.

Wait, what rule was this??

re: "perfect" i love the production, it and "1979" are the closest the pumpkins come to that kind of building-up-a-gentle-rock-song-sigh-by-sigh approach a la fleetwood mac

https://i.imgur.com/Ci1FZfZ.jpg
20. Perfect
402 points, 17 votes
From: Adore, 1998

perfect!

haha amazing timing

xxxxposts well and "landslide"

further from stevie sigh territory but they coulda tore up "the ledge." i can totally hear billy whining out the vocal at rapid clip, and swapping in god knows what kind of frenetic guitar bombardment for the sped up rubber bands stretched over a cereal box played by lindsay buckingham.

Landslide in top 20 voids the poll. HKK was my #1. Frail & Bedazzled my #3. Those tracks are everything I love about the first two albums but just a bit faster, heavier, and/or catchier. Overdriven vocals on HKK allow them to sit in the mix like a bonus guitar.

this was my no. 3

Wait, what rule was this??

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, April 7, 2018 10:14 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i explained upthread but in order to make putting a ballot of only 25 songs together possible i nixed all songs that i prefer live and find staid in comparison on the albums: geek, siva, fuck you, i am one, silverfuck, quiet, ruby (only because of the missing outro jam). it's not even a "songs vs. performance pieces" thing, it was just a means to an end to make a ballot like this possible.

HKK was my #1.

thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ENJ7QbrII