what one artist do you like the most that ilm doesn't seem to rate at all

waka/jawaka & the grand wazoo are p much instrumental and super nutso skitzo fuzionoid action

i just picked up Burnt Weeny Sandwich at a Goodwill, it's pretty enjoyable (to someone who doesn't really rate Zappa much at all.)

Was just about to post about those, ums!

i found one of these threads recently bc i was trying to see if anyone on ilx had ever mentioned the autumns
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:56 PM

the angel pool by the autumns is an awesome record incidentally
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:57 PM

One of my favorite albums, I'm sure I mentioned it somewhere. Need to listen to it again soon. Dreampop classic.

I want to try Dream Theatre someday because I think there were no fans here.

You might want to Americanise their name first

One of my most favourite artists ever is Joseph Arthur. I think he's a true genius and adore everything he's done, which is quite a lot.

i only know his 'the the vs merz' styled debut, 'big city secrets' : but its a bloody wonderful album.
not followed anything else since as i was under the impression that sonically things became a lot less interesting.
happy to be proved wrong.

I loved those two Doves albums and remember the 3rd album being good.

I loved those two Doves albums and remember the 3rd album being good.

it was.

Zappa's way too spotty catalogue wise and his later material sticks out like a sore thumb in more PC times and hasn't aged well cuz it's stupid af

pretty much. Zappa's a great artist when you're 16, because his sneering attitude towards everything appeals to teens and you've got the patience to see how all 70+ albums link together. His stuff veers all over the map quality-wise but I've never quite been bored by a Zappa album. even Thing-Fish is entertaining in a "what the fuck" kind of way.

I like several Duncan Sheik songs and follow him on Twitter, wouldn't call myself a FAN but he seems to be roundly ignored/disliked in all circles except certain boardrooms

i love hot rats. its the only album that i really like. if he had made more instrumental albums in the late-60s and early 70s i'd probably own some of his records.

― scott seward, Friday, April 6, 2018 9:38 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same here.

all this doves talk!

elbow's first three albums >>> doves' first three imo

that's as much as i'll say

any other fans of late-60s Steve Miller?

i could never get into elbow. when they first showed up someone told me they were kinda like talk talk but i think they just reminded me of peter gabriel.

doves were just so beautiful. and i loved the big sound and big drums. my kinda atmospheric rock.

"any other fans of late-60s Steve Miller?"

hell yeah. that's his best stuff.

i love the first 6 steve miller band records and they came out in a three year period! which is crazy. but people were early bloomers in the old days. no way in hell anyone could do that now.

I like several Duncan Sheik songs and follow him on Twitter, wouldn't call myself a FAN but he seems to be roundly ignored/disliked in all circles except certain boardrooms

― nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, April 6, 2018 11:43 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh i like him a lot. i had a weird obsession with his album daylight bc “on a high” was constantly on the radio when i lived in edmonton and then when i got back to the states i checked it out from the library and kinda fell in love with every song, and idk if that’s bc it’s inherently great or whatever or bc of how much i ended up connecting it to the relationship i moved to canada for and which totally fell apart a few weeks after i arrived

who here listens to latter-day lloyd cole. i don't. i think he actually lives around here somewhere.

last record i enjoyed was Mainstream and you were all in diapers when that came out.

I only know sailor out of the early Steve Miller albums, but I also like fly like an eagle and that ridic one w/ macho city on it

who here listens to latter-day lloyd cole. i don't. i think he actually lives around here somewhere.

I do! I think he's still making great music. He lives in Easthampton. Next time I visit your store we can go stalking.

Good post frogbs. I find Zappa’s anti censorship court case videos to be pretty engaging and eat the music definitely gave a whole picture of who Zappa was. Most fascinating was his early avant garde 60s talk show appearance where he uses bicycles for noise generation. Even in this first snapshot of a young Zappa it was clear he decided to burden himself as a misunderstood genius who got laughs from the audience but in his mind it was all business- serious stuff. In every era it seems he strived to find new ways to piss audiences off but in the end of his career he tried to become varese but instead made cutesy avant-garde music. The worst kind

Lots of Doves love here, too - first two albums, anyway. The Cedar Room is all time.

Good cover of willows song by the doves

i do love oi! probably not a ton of oi! threads on ilm.

― scott seward

i love the story behind symarip

i love the first 6 steve miller band records and they came out in a three year period! which is crazy. but people were early bloomers in the old days. no way in hell anyone could do that now.

― scott seward

i love the b-side of his seventh! i think ilx got me into it. i can't remember though.

there's also a great king biscuit flower hour release where he jams for 12 minutes on "fly like an eagle" - this was like three years before he released it

even more than the sneering what gets me about zappa is the horrible _sound_ of his '80s stuff. when he tries to do reggae (which he did a _lot_ in the '80s) it's the shittiest reggae i have ever heard in my life. people tell me "drowning witch" is actually a brilliantly composed song but i can't tell because it sounds fucking monstrously sterile. and that was played by a live band! eventually he started moving on to the synclavier and committed all sorts of new timbral atrocities.

I have like seven Club 8 albums and they’re basically the meeting point between Good Humor-era Saint Etienne and Radio Dept, which seems to be ILM catnip, and yet it’s crickets around here every time I mention them.

tho I they fall definitely into the “obscure” rather than “despised” category, so maybe not relevant here.

I have like seven Club 8 albums and they’re basically the meeting point between Good Humor-era Saint Etienne and Radio Dept, which seems to be ILM catnip, and yet it’s crickets around here every time I mention them.

― omar little,

About 10 years ago I bought a couple of albums by them (Nouvelle and the self-titled) after someone compared them to Saint Etienne and early Cardigans. They didn't do a lot for me. Is there another album you'd recommend giving a go? I probably didn't try hard enough with them and I'd be happy to give them another go.

I kinda wish early Steve Miller Band would have gone even further psych space rock. The few tracks he does like that are killer.

I’d try with either Spring Came, Rain Fell or The Boy Who Couldn’t Stop Dreaming — both pretty great. Above the City is less twee and more moody Europop influenced. Also great!

I'm a big Doves fan too. I thought the first two albums were really good. These days Some Cities is the one I go back to the most. I was worried they'd put out a whole album of anthemic songs like Pounding, but there's some really weird stuff on there. I remember there being a feeling they were going to become huge with that fourth album (kind of like Elbow had broken through the previous year). Sadly, it wasn't a great album. There definitely weren't any obvious hits on it. At least there wasn't anything as tedious as One Day Like This. That song that killed my enthusiasm for Elbow instantly.

I’d try with either Spring Came, Rain Fell or The Boy Who Couldn’t Stop Dreaming — both pretty great. Above the City is less twee and more moody Europop influenced. Also great!

― omar little,

Cool. I'll check them out.

I'd forgotten about Club 8 but around the time my wife & I got together there was a song or album we used to listen to a lot. Can't remember what it was now unfortunately...

I have like seven Club 8 albums

― omar little, Saturday, April 7, 2018 1:41 AM

I misread that as S Club 7

The Letter People - Songs of the Letter People
Louis Jordan
Badly Drawn Boy
Coldplay (their first album is legit one of my favorite albums of all time. No joke!)

I had a look and I have a load of songs from Club 8's The Boy Who Couldn't Stop Dreaming and The People's Record albums in my mp3 library, so evidently I remembered about Club 8 about 8 years ago then forgot about them again.

I think it was Strangely Beautiful from 2003 that would've been what I was listening to with my wife, that was the year anyway and some of the song titles are familiar. I should download that again.

There's a fairly used Dire Straits thread here, but yeah them. Despite the horrific Les Boys, the 3rd and 4th albums are wondeful.

But nobody with lots of records really likes them.

I remember a friend picking up my Making Movies L.P. and saying "Why have you got... THIS?"

Field Music said they wanted to cover them but I don't that they ever did it.

Doll By Doll/Jackie Leven. I just searched and Marcello started a thread when he died but it got about six responses. Anyways, DBD were an amazing and cathartic live act and their albums stand up. Later I saw Leven solo once, he talked more than he played but was a brilliant raconteur so that was okay.

Zappa

Lol, how many people can post about him before he stops counting?

i really have tried with Doll By Doll. i remember trying again after byron coley told me he really liked those records and he's a weirdo so i gave it a shot but i think the vocals weren't for me.

i still listen to doctors of madness a lot. and deaf school. because nobody buys the beautiful copies of their records in my store so i can listen to them whenever i want. but there are probably fans of those guys here.

i still like city boy too. there are probably less city boy fans here.

deaf school even put out an album last year! that i did not hear.

Lol, how many people can post about him before he stops counting?

Three part

Doctors Of Madness! Cherry Red put out a 3cd complete works set last year, fantastic stuff.