Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

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XYU - if we'd had a 50 track ballot limit I might have voted for it.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 5 April 2018 22:15 (eight years ago)

Missed today's roll-out, but off to a flying start! So happy to see 'Farewell and Goodnight' place <3

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 5 April 2018 22:17 (eight years ago)

going to do a few more now:

https://i.imgur.com/W0CmQ9W.jpg
56. Ava Adore
142 points, 6 votes
From: Adore, 1998

https://i.imgur.com/mbFgYxT.jpg
56. Spaceboy
142 points, 6 votes
From: Siamese Dream, 1993

https://i.imgur.com/KyFhTho.jpg
56. Wound
142 points, 7 votes
From: Machina/The Machines of God, 2000

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 23:59 (eight years ago)

WOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 6 April 2018 00:12 (eight years ago)

Cool seeing "Wound" place. late cut on my ballot.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:15 (eight years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/GA5kP5y.jpg
53. Pug
150 points, 6 votes
From: Adore, 1998

ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:51 (eight years ago)

oh cool, i'm not at work and can follow this live right now.

Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:57 (eight years ago)

haven't said this yet but great job ufo!

Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:58 (eight years ago)

"Spaceboy" for the Mellotron love

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:00 (eight years ago)

Ava Adore is SO LOW

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:01 (eight years ago)

Wound was a Machina track that I'd previously overlooked but it's one of the best from it now I think.

Ava Adore is a weird one, I sort of wish the drums were a little more forceful or something? do love the solo onwards though

ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:09 (eight years ago)

and another three-way tie

https://i.imgur.com/SvPQIrK.jpg
52. Age of Innocence
154 points, 5 votes
From: Machina/The Machines of God, 2000

https://i.imgur.com/GYaTCOE.jpg
52. I of the Mourning
154 points, 5 votes, 1 #1 vote
From: Machina/The Machines of God, 2000

https://i.imgur.com/LgySnqZ.jpg
52. Crush
154 points, 6 votes, 1 #1 vote
From: Gish, 1991

ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:13 (eight years ago)

is there a Spotify playlist? i don't see one, i will make one and post it in a few minutes.

Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:16 (eight years ago)

I haven't made one, but that's much appreciated, thanks

ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:19 (eight years ago)

Crush just made the bottom of my ballot. Gorgeous song.

jmm, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:22 (eight years ago)

The top 20 is gonna be a humdinger

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:23 (eight years ago)

I don't really like Age of Innocence much and think it's a weird closer (With Every Light would have been perfect) but I of the Mourning was another great discovery from this. It builds to a great climax, I just wish it wasn't swallowed by the Machina blur so much.

ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:30 (eight years ago)

"I of the Mourning" made my ballot. Good catchy tune.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:31 (eight years ago)

this is a collaborated list, so people who are able to update this list during the day please do.

ILM The Smashing Pumpkins

Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:33 (eight years ago)

^^^Spotify

Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:34 (eight years ago)

"Age of Innocence" always felt like a bonus track to me. Ends the album on a weird note. Agree that "With Every Light" or even "Blue Skies Bring Tears" would've ended the album much better.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:35 (eight years ago)

14 songs deep and we've got almost 1/3 of Machina I!

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:37 (eight years ago)

And you KNOW "Try Try Try" (at the least) is up ahead.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:37 (eight years ago)

“i of the mourning” was my no. 1!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:39 (eight years ago)

Radio/Raaaadiooooooooooooo

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:40 (eight years ago)

Surprised that Age of Innocence placed. Happy that Ava Adore placed low. Very happy to see Wound make it, it was my #25, would be higher but I haaaaaate the mix on the album. Great song though, one of the best of the era. and I of the Mourning was in my top 10, an amazing song that has grown on me more than any other in recent years. I couldn't care less about it 5 years ago, now it's easily one of my favorite Pumpkins songs, if only for the second verse:

I blow the dust off my guitar
In the attic with the star
I read your letter to feel better
My tears upon the fading ink

this is a fantastic, straightforward performance and might be what turned me on this song (also the delivery of that second verse is perfect):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKZLXemEKhQ

flappy bird, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:41 (eight years ago)

again, emotionally resonant on its own, and doubly so when looked at in the context of where Billy and the band were at in 2000.

flappy bird, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:42 (eight years ago)

Pug rules so hard

Simon H., Friday, 6 April 2018 01:47 (eight years ago)

Only got to know and love Pug when I heard the Arising tour version from early 1999. I wish Billy sang it higher on the record, besides being heavy as fuck, his vocal delivery is so much better here imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDGkIk8A0Pw

flappy bird, Friday, 6 April 2018 01:59 (eight years ago)

i voted for “age of innocence” btw. i love it as a closing track bc it’s sorta got a “one last midtempo rocker before we hang it up” vibe, and billy’s lyrics in the bridge feel like his idea of an epitaph for the band

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 02:01 (eight years ago)

btw, ufo, nice work with the text on the images. It's very seamless.

jmm, Friday, 6 April 2018 02:02 (eight years ago)

the font match the records, very nice!

Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 02:03 (eight years ago)

yes very nice work ufo

flappy bird, Friday, 6 April 2018 02:03 (eight years ago)

OTM

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 6 April 2018 02:06 (eight years ago)

i had age of innocence very high.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 6 April 2018 02:10 (eight years ago)

just finished listening to what we have so far. the Spotify is already about an hour and twenty minutes and really, really mellow so far.

can't wait until tomorrow.

Bee OK, Friday, 6 April 2018 03:27 (eight years ago)

Crush is my first to place, what a great song

Also love Pug, and am happy Ava Adore beat Disarm (though I've come to like that one more and more in the passing years)

bedraggled vorticist (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 6 April 2018 06:05 (eight years ago)

Got to admit I've always really disliked Ava Adore, a large part of that is down to the opening lines (really not helped by the goofy "Behold this tableau of grotesquery!" gesturing BC does in the video as he delivers them) but also I think the melody is kind of weak. I like Pug though, that was one that stood out on my last run through the album.

I of the Mourning and Age of Innocence are two of my favourites off Machina although I only voted for the latter in the end, I guess it is kind of an odd closer but I like the shifts between the different sections, it's like the whole album in miniature.

Crush was one of only two tracks from Gish on my ballot, I'm wondering how much of it will place - think the results have been nicely unpredictable so far!

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 6 April 2018 09:08 (eight years ago)

'Wound', 'Age of Innocence' and 'I of the Mourning' all too low - three of the big highlights of MACHINA right there. 'Ava Adore' is pretty much in the right place, I think. 'Pug' too high.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 6 April 2018 10:30 (eight years ago)

I Of The Mourning is great, one of only two songs on Machina I have any desire to hear again. (The other one will probably be top 10).

Matt DC, Friday, 6 April 2018 11:01 (eight years ago)

I was sure that "I of the Mourning" was the one that I always heard on the radio in Canada but, oddly, I can't find any evidence that it was even a major single release. I have no memory of hearing "Everlasting Gaze" or "Try, Try, Try" on radio.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 6 April 2018 11:52 (eight years ago)

'Pug' too high.

― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 6 April 2018 10:30 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pug too low, obv.

One of my top choices, and probably the pinnacle for me of the electro-goth sound that started with "Eye" and ran through "Ava Adore", "Tear" etc. I love the contrast between the crunchiness of the verses and the velvety smoothness of what I suppose is meant to be the chorus. Only flaw is the bridge which I feel doesn't quite gel with the rest of the song, but then they more than make it up for it with the new tearing synth sound that comes in afterwards.

The production reminds me weirdly of Tori Amos' 'From The Choirgirl Hotel' from the same year.

Tim F, Friday, 6 April 2018 12:03 (eight years ago)

"I of the Mourning" is a great song that just missed my ballot because of the muddy production - you can hear the amazing Catherine Wheel tune struggling to rise out of the murk.

Tim F, Friday, 6 April 2018 12:11 (eight years ago)

Yeah, it was listening to the live MusiquePlus performances of "I of the Mourning" and "Stand Inside Your Love" that really decided their spots on my ballot.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 6 April 2018 12:13 (eight years ago)

Both songs are among the least egregious on that album in terms of poor production, in truth, but their quality as songs almost makes It more upsetting.

I mean at least "Raindrops + Sunshowers" is just a dumb song so there's no lasting harm done there.

Tim F, Friday, 6 April 2018 12:16 (eight years ago)

We're probably never going to agree on this but electro-goth production is particularly unforgiving to Corgan's voice in a way that noisy guitars (or even gentle guitars) aren't. It's a bit like how Kele Okerere's strangulated yelp worked OK with post-punk revivalism but dear god not with piano house.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 April 2018 12:20 (eight years ago)

I feel like all of billy's vocals post-SD are borderline awful with maybe 10 exceptions, so then it just comes down to how much I like the music / tune / production.

Tim F, Friday, 6 April 2018 12:28 (eight years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/Oov9FUq.jpg
49. Cupid de Locke
156 points, 9 votes
From: Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995

ufo, Friday, 6 April 2018 12:31 (eight years ago)

We're probably never going to agree on this but electro-goth production is particularly unforgiving to Corgan's voice in a way that noisy guitars (or even gentle guitars) aren't.

I think a lot of us were agreeing with this on the voting thread?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 6 April 2018 12:45 (eight years ago)

idk i think corgan’s voice is particularly suited toward stuff like “eye”

then again it is impossible for me to hear his voice as bad on the first five records (it is certainly v bad now)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 6 April 2018 12:45 (eight years ago)


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