Bang Bang You're Dead... POLL In Your Head - ILM Artist Poll #87 - SMASHING PUMPKINS - Results

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Lol, now I want to listen to "Disarm". I'll admit that when I first listened to the album, even "Disarm" seemed like a weird song to be 'the ballad' in a world where Aerosmith was still making the most popular rock ballads.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:36 (six years ago) link

Play bass like you're barely alive!
https://media.giphy.com/media/9Y5ddKxG7nULYJUZhT/giphy.gif

Breathe through your mouth, James (don't breathe too much).
https://media.giphy.com/media/1XhrmivUUrrxtCPRrH/giphy.gif

Drink of this cup, for it is...oh, maybe better not.
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how's life, Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:59 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I mostly remembered why I usually skip it.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:05 (six years ago) link

I can sometimes get into it if I'm really in a mood for it but I usually skip it (and "Spaceboy" *ducks*).

I don't like Spaceboy either, it just kind of drags. Disarm isn't a terrible song but the strings and bells are too much for me.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:09 (six years ago) link

I like "Spaceboy" a lot

Currently trying to reconfigure the MCIS era tracks as one long single-dsc album + one "outtakes" album a la SD + PI. For some reason I never tire of resequencing these songs.

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:16 (six years ago) link

my albums ballot:

Siamese Dream
Pisces Iscariot
Adore
Gish
Mellon Collie

except for 1979 I could exchange Mellon Collie & the first Machina. Mellon Collie has a few other good singles but as an album experience I'd rather avoid it (oh & Galapogos is good too).

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:45 (six years ago) link

I kinda feel about Siamese Dream vs Mellon Collie the way I do about Monster vs New Adventures In Hi-Fi : I strongly prefer the earlier of each pair but ILM seems to lean the other way, & I wonder if it's related to which one you got into first.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:47 (six years ago) link

ILM voted Siamese Dream #1!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link

haha that's true! I didn't notice lol @ me. I was responding to the latest line of discussion against Siamese Dream, I guess.

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/tuAhTCG.jpg
66. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
110 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote
From: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link

who voted this #1?! absolute madman (in a good way)

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:07 (six years ago) link

Ha, this is the brief instrumental that opens the album?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link

yes

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link

Not my number one, but I can kinda understand. Gets stuck in my head a hell of a lot.

how's life, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:09 (six years ago) link

This has me wondering how much of MCIS is gonna place. I'm gonna say 20 out of 28.

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:11 (six years ago) link

this placing where it did is a big part of why I decided to go with 66 tracks for the rollout (as well as the 33 connection), it was too fitting. it's a nice intro and I like the reprises at the end of the album and in Thru the Eyes of Ruby

for reference track ballots were scored 50-48-46-44-...-8-6-4-2

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:15 (six years ago) link

It wouldn't have made my ballot, but if I had to condense Mellon Collie down to Siamese Dream, I'd still retain it as I love it.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:16 (six years ago) link

*Siamese Dream length.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:17 (six years ago) link

I agree with that. Whenever I try removing it, it just sounds wrong.

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/7thm3Ic.jpg
65. Stumbleine
112 points, 6 votes
From: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:24 (six years ago) link

I prefer 'Mellon Collie' to 'Tonight Tonight'. It's a sweet little intro to what's to come and then Tonight Tonight comes in with its mid-tempo bluster and I hit the skip button. Didn't vote for it but hah at the number 1

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:25 (six years ago) link

I must have been listening to the White Album at the same time as Mellon Collie cos Stumbleine sounds like an answer to Cry Baby Cry whenever I hear it

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link

the mellon collie title track is such a good way of opening this. kudos ufo. can’t believe it made no. 66 exactly

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

I usually skip straight to "Tonight Tonight", honestly. I'm a huge fan of instrumental music but "Mellon Collie" seems pretty uninteresting to me. I do like "Stumbleine" a lot, although it didn't make my ballot.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link

I'm the opposite -- I don't like listening to "Tonight Tonight" without "Mellon Collie" before it. Or at least it lessens the effect of the *pow* of "Tonight Tonight"'s strings if I skip it.

Sam Weller, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link

I don't have much to say about 'Stumbleine' other than that I like it.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link

Sam Weller OTM. I heard 'Tonight, Tonight' as a single first before hearing it in the context of the album, but after living with the album for 23 years it doesn't feel right without 'Mellon Collie' preceding it.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link

I like the reprises at the end of the album and in Thru the Eyes of Ruby

I somehow never clued in that that was a reprise in TtEoR.

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:41 (six years ago) link

I didn't vote for it but the Mellon Collie intro is a perfect opener for both album and rundown.

Stumbleine didn't make my final ballot either but the live version posted on the voting thread really made me appreciate it more. It also feels like a precursor to Adore.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/yz6vz9D.jpg
64. The Boy
116 points, 4 votes
From: 1979 EP/The Aeroplane Flies High, 1996

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link

Nice! In terms of James songs I was torn between this and "...Said Sadly", but voted "The Boy."

Sam Weller, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:53 (six years ago) link

I'm intrigued by how many votes it takes to make the top 66 (and how many points!)

My #1 may just show up!!!!

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link

Never heard (of) that one before. It's a nice breezy little tune.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link

Hearing this for the first time and I like it.

The boy the boy
's in love

jmm, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link

Nice! In terms of James songs I was torn between this and "...Said Sadly", but voted "The Boy."

I voted for both in the end but had this one higher, it was an immediate favourite when I finally started listening through the Aeroplane stuff.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link

“the boy” showed up without needing my vote for it! hooray!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link

imo it’s james’ best song and should’ve been on mellon collie between oh say “arms of sleep” and “1979,” that would’ve been cool

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link

“said sadly” is so good too

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/HsEBtTh.jpg
63. Glass and the Ghost Children
118 points, 4 votes
From: Machina/The Machines of God, 2000

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

mercifully low

Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

So it's all very obtuse, because it's all, like, I don't know.

jmm, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link

so all my past demagoguery

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:21 (six years ago) link

I only really like the first part, but the monologue is pretty funny.

jmm, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link

I quickly became sick of Disarm at the time, but twenty years of perspective had mellowed me a lot. I found it never fit within the maximalism of the rest of SD, now I find myself moved by its honesty and simplicity.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link

I find "Disarm" really moving, lyrically.

Sam Weller, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:36 (six years ago) link

I had no memory of "Glass etc". As with other Machina songs, I'm able to get something out of it now that I'm listening to a live version.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/5GqOj17.jpg
62. Farewell and Goodnight
120 points, 4 votes
From: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link

I love the first section of Glass and the Ghost Children but the rest really drags, if the outro was cut down so the total length was 6 minutes at most it'd be great

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link

OK wtf @ this piano break in "Glass" xp! (Right at the 6m mark of a live clip, ha)

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link

that's mike garson!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link


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