Lol, now I want to listen to "Disarm". I'll admit that when I first listened to the album, even "Disarm" seemed like a weird song to be 'the ballad' in a world where Aerosmith was still making the most popular rock ballads.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:36 (six years ago) link
Play bass like you're barely alive!https://media.giphy.com/media/9Y5ddKxG7nULYJUZhT/giphy.gif
Breathe through your mouth, James (don't breathe too much).https://media.giphy.com/media/1XhrmivUUrrxtCPRrH/giphy.gif
Drink of this cup, for it is...oh, maybe better not. https://media.giphy.com/media/fiwkwEt2SpwNhwrU7L/giphy.gif
― how's life, Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:59 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I mostly remembered why I usually skip it.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:05 (six years ago) link
I can sometimes get into it if I'm really in a mood for it but I usually skip it (and "Spaceboy" *ducks*).
I don't like Spaceboy either, it just kind of drags. Disarm isn't a terrible song but the strings and bells are too much for me.
― Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:09 (six years ago) link
I like "Spaceboy" a lot
Currently trying to reconfigure the MCIS era tracks as one long single-dsc album + one "outtakes" album a la SD + PI. For some reason I never tire of resequencing these songs.
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:16 (six years ago) link
my albums ballot:
Siamese DreamPisces IscariotAdoreGishMellon Collie
except for 1979 I could exchange Mellon Collie & the first Machina. Mellon Collie has a few other good singles but as an album experience I'd rather avoid it (oh & Galapogos is good too).
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:45 (six years ago) link
I kinda feel about Siamese Dream vs Mellon Collie the way I do about Monster vs New Adventures In Hi-Fi : I strongly prefer the earlier of each pair but ILM seems to lean the other way, & I wonder if it's related to which one you got into first.
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:47 (six years ago) link
ILM voted Siamese Dream #1!
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link
haha that's true! I didn't notice lol @ me. I was responding to the latest line of discussion against Siamese Dream, I guess.
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/tuAhTCG.jpg66. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness110 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 voteFrom: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link
who voted this #1?! absolute madman (in a good way)
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:07 (six years ago) link
Ha, this is the brief instrumental that opens the album?
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link
yes
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link
Not my number one, but I can kinda understand. Gets stuck in my head a hell of a lot.
― how's life, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:09 (six years ago) link
This has me wondering how much of MCIS is gonna place. I'm gonna say 20 out of 28.
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:11 (six years ago) link
this placing where it did is a big part of why I decided to go with 66 tracks for the rollout (as well as the 33 connection), it was too fitting. it's a nice intro and I like the reprises at the end of the album and in Thru the Eyes of Ruby
for reference track ballots were scored 50-48-46-44-...-8-6-4-2
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:15 (six years ago) link
It wouldn't have made my ballot, but if I had to condense Mellon Collie down to Siamese Dream, I'd still retain it as I love it.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:16 (six years ago) link
*Siamese Dream length.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:17 (six years ago) link
I agree with that. Whenever I try removing it, it just sounds wrong.
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/7thm3Ic.jpg65. Stumbleine112 points, 6 votesFrom: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:24 (six years ago) link
I prefer 'Mellon Collie' to 'Tonight Tonight'. It's a sweet little intro to what's to come and then Tonight Tonight comes in with its mid-tempo bluster and I hit the skip button. Didn't vote for it but hah at the number 1
― loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:25 (six years ago) link
I must have been listening to the White Album at the same time as Mellon Collie cos Stumbleine sounds like an answer to Cry Baby Cry whenever I hear it
― loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link
the mellon collie title track is such a good way of opening this. kudos ufo. can’t believe it made no. 66 exactly
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link
I usually skip straight to "Tonight Tonight", honestly. I'm a huge fan of instrumental music but "Mellon Collie" seems pretty uninteresting to me. I do like "Stumbleine" a lot, although it didn't make my ballot.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link
I'm the opposite -- I don't like listening to "Tonight Tonight" without "Mellon Collie" before it. Or at least it lessens the effect of the *pow* of "Tonight Tonight"'s strings if I skip it.
― Sam Weller, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link
I don't have much to say about 'Stumbleine' other than that I like it.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link
Sam Weller OTM. I heard 'Tonight, Tonight' as a single first before hearing it in the context of the album, but after living with the album for 23 years it doesn't feel right without 'Mellon Collie' preceding it.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link
I like the reprises at the end of the album and in Thru the Eyes of Ruby
I somehow never clued in that that was a reprise in TtEoR.
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:41 (six years ago) link
I didn't vote for it but the Mellon Collie intro is a perfect opener for both album and rundown.
Stumbleine didn't make my final ballot either but the live version posted on the voting thread really made me appreciate it more. It also feels like a precursor to Adore.
― Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/yz6vz9D.jpg64. The Boy116 points, 4 votesFrom: 1979 EP/The Aeroplane Flies High, 1996
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link
Nice! In terms of James songs I was torn between this and "...Said Sadly", but voted "The Boy."
― Sam Weller, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:53 (six years ago) link
I'm intrigued by how many votes it takes to make the top 66 (and how many points!)
My #1 may just show up!!!!
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link
Never heard (of) that one before. It's a nice breezy little tune.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link
Hearing this for the first time and I like it.
The boy the boy's in love
― jmm, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link
I voted for both in the end but had this one higher, it was an immediate favourite when I finally started listening through the Aeroplane stuff.
― Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link
“the boy” showed up without needing my vote for it! hooray!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link
imo it’s james’ best song and should’ve been on mellon collie between oh say “arms of sleep” and “1979,” that would’ve been cool
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link
“said sadly” is so good too
https://i.imgur.com/HsEBtTh.jpg63. Glass and the Ghost Children118 points, 4 votesFrom: Machina/The Machines of God, 2000
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link
mercifully low
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link
So it's all very obtuse, because it's all, like, I don't know.
― jmm, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link
so all my past demagoguery
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:21 (six years ago) link
I only really like the first part, but the monologue is pretty funny.
― jmm, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link
I quickly became sick of Disarm at the time, but twenty years of perspective had mellowed me a lot. I found it never fit within the maximalism of the rest of SD, now I find myself moved by its honesty and simplicity.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link
I find "Disarm" really moving, lyrically.
― Sam Weller, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:36 (six years ago) link
I had no memory of "Glass etc". As with other Machina songs, I'm able to get something out of it now that I'm listening to a live version.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/5GqOj17.jpg62. Farewell and Goodnight120 points, 4 votesFrom: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, 1995
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link
I love the first section of Glass and the Ghost Children but the rest really drags, if the outro was cut down so the total length was 6 minutes at most it'd be great
― ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link
OK wtf @ this piano break in "Glass" xp! (Right at the 6m mark of a live clip, ha)
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link
that's mike garson!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link