"Wonderwall": I Don't Get It

You know that line from Justified, Turrican? If every discussion you're in starts smelling, it might be because you're a piece of shit.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:36 (twenty-six minutes ago) Permalink

This doesn't apply to me.

pfffffffft

Really enjoying this table read of the Gallagher brothers biopic.

You know that line from Justified, Turrican? If every discussion you're in starts smelling, it might be because you're a piece of shit.

Cheese, surely?

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4595776/alan-partridge-cheese-o.gif

Ha, Actually meant to link to this

Oh wait, never mind. Somehow thought I had accidentally linked to this thread

Lol, this (slightly edited) exchange is absolutely classic.

I've just had to check out 'Autumn Almanac', I counted 26...

(A, A7, A9, Am7, Amaj7, Bb, B7, C, Cm, C#m, C#m7, D, Dm, D7, Eb, E, E7, Em, F, Fm, F7, F#7, G, Gm, G7, G#7)

― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), 5. september 2016 18:38 (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not counting the different extensions (and two discrepancies, one on the Eb - I think there's only an eb minor chord, and I think there's an augmented chord on the beat for "toasted" from "toasted, buttered currant buns"), the ones I'm missing are:

C and c minor chords?
e minor?
f minor?
g minor?

I don't hear these.

― timellison, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 01:56 (fifty-one minutes ago) Permalink

Then yer doing it wrong.

― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), 6. september 2016 04:49 (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh? Maybe you could point out where they are.

― timellison, 6. september 2016 06:05 (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

five months pass...

In hindsight, I suspect timellision failed to account for the use of pedal tone.

I didn't fall out with him on that thread! In fact, I never used to but the drip drip drip got to me.

A little linkage is a dangerous thing

Oh look, Frederik's still at it!

Linking to threads that are years old is such bad form, tut tut.

Yeah, don't link back in anger.

Okay, the reason I linked it, as is probably obvious, is as an exhibit A of Turrican Sam’s pedantic a-little-knowledge-plus-google-search-is-dangerous-thing approach to musicology.

I'm glad it's been pointed out! I actually hadn't seen Tim's response to that, and I've no problem with Tim (always a great guy to talk '60s stuff with, amongst other things and I enjoy his posts) so I should get around to responding to that - definitely not an augmented chord on "toasted", though, and 'Autumn Almanac' really is a proper "fistful of chords" type of track. The "yer doing it wrong" was meant in jest, and kinda a Troggs Tapes reference which I thought maybe Tim would get.

I've invited legendary jazz fusion guitarist Alan Holdsworth to the thread, he'll be conducting a webinar at 4PM EST today on the chordal structures of Oasis songs, if you sign up you'll also receive his eBook "Phrygian Mode for Beginners", a $20 value

Okay, the reason I linked it, as is probably obvious, is as an exhibit A of Turrican Sam’s pedantic a-little-knowledge-plus-google-search-is-dangerous-thing approach to musicology.

There is a difference, your link was to highlight a prior, hopefully relevant, conversation you'd had with I'm Turrican and not some shitty, if risible, ploy to try to discredit another poster.

I've invited legendary jazz fusion guitarist Alan Holdsworth to the thread, he'll be conducting a webinar at 4PM EST today on the chordal structures of Oasis songs, if you sign up you'll also receive his eBook "Phrygian Mode for Beginners", a $20 value

I thought you posted the link for that reason, James Redd, and I thought it was apt. We're just being snarky ;)

Will he answer Rutles questions? Xpost

I assume James is referring to the discussion where A, A7 and A9 were listed as seperate chords - but those chords have a specific appeal to them which is why people choose to use them. They sound different, therefore they should be referred to as different.

It should be worth mentioning that at no point during the thread I referred to anyone else as a retard, though.

Turrican, I tried yellowcarding you but can't tell if it worked or not. Check your email.

This is news to me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvYDQBIokz0

Will he answer Rutles questions? Xpost

Hey Turrican, sent you a follow-up email.

I can't access it, I'm afraid.

Oh, so you didn't see either of them?

Nope, haven't seen either of 'em.

Original email was a warning that you were getting close to 51 and to maybe dial it back a bit. Second was a mea culpa because you are significantly less close to 51 than I thought: a number of your FPs had been from older than 6 months ago and needed to be deleted. The suggestion to dial it back a bit still seems like reasonable advice to me though. I'm not going to weigh in on whatever's going on in this thread because I don't want to accidentally learn the chords to Wonderwall.

mod what's yr take on pedal points?

x-post:

Hahahahaha, fair enough! :)

(xp) pedal notes.

("Pedal point" and "pedal tone" are equally acceptable terminology tbf.)

Mea culpa #2

... withdrawal #2

(xp) pedal notes.

― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, April 4, 2018 2:37 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tom sorry I should have been more upfront I'm John Petrucci of Dream Theater, in the Theater we always say "pedal points"

I'd like to toast points

lmao ums

The hell, this thread exploded.

A lot of contentious points/tones/notes came up.

Mostly chordial.

Pedal pedantry was a delightful new thing for me

Did anyone ever make effects pedals which were also bike pedals and which you could only use while simultaneously pedaling a stationary bike and going ham on a guitar, because if not I will file my patent now and build one for u.

It's been mentioned here before but yes, all this song has going for is a few details like the way the second verse starts with cello/vocals then drums then bass. That really works. Also, the melody of the pre-chorus is kinda nice. It is in the chorus when things really go wrong. So lazy and anti-climatic! Perhaps they wanted to break the pattern of full-blown anthemic choruses for a change, but it really doesn't work. Although it clearly must work for some people.

wish I'd made a $2 bet that a pedal geek fight would erupt on a thread about "wonderwall"

I mean, "Soon", sure, I get that

Pedals are for lames, real shredders use racks

Backbeat, word is on the street / That the fire in this thread is out