Shame through to Blank Page is probably my favourite sequence on any of their albums
otm. hit after hit. the atmosphere they get out of a song as simple as "shame" is remarkable
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:02 (eight years ago)
Gish is sounding pretty nice now. "Snail" is really good. Maybe it just sounded too much like other things of the time in the 90s, idk? P sure Adore will never really be my thing but it was def a daring move for them.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:02 (eight years ago)
XP
That makes three of us!
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:03 (eight years ago)
whoever said Snail is like the MCIS epics condensed into 4 minutes is so so so OTM
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:03 (eight years ago)
every guitar line in "snail" is fucking amazing
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:04 (eight years ago)
it was painful to not be able to vote for it
my #10
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:05 (eight years ago)
3:24 this octave progression omg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS-ThN4aEDU
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:06 (eight years ago)
When you wake up you're all weak / POLLING your life away
― jmm, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:09 (eight years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/UcjcOSp.jpg2. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness218 points, 29 votes, 10 #1 votes
https://i.imgur.com/ZL2EDRT.jpg1. Siamese Dream252 points, 32 votes, 13 #1 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:12 (eight years ago)
fair
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:12 (eight years ago)
Justice
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:14 (eight years ago)
Siamese DreamMellon Collie and the Infinite SadnessGishPisces IscariotAdore
I voted for more Mellon Collie tracks, but SD is the albumest album
― jmm, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:14 (eight years ago)
hard to argue with these results
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:15 (eight years ago)
sd is really beautifully paced for a record that's an hour long
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:15 (eight years ago)
close enough
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:16 (eight years ago)
re: results
I can't believe gish is only no.5. By far their most fascinating album if you ask me. So full of psychedelic goodness. The drumming always totally kills me. A monster of an album. The only album after that i liked was mellon collie as it was so varied.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:17 (eight years ago)
first album i ever bought on CD. zero regrets.
xpost to SD pacing comment
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:17 (eight years ago)
also alex otm – had i voted, i woulda had Gish as #2.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:18 (eight years ago)
I had Gish #2. I ignored it for a long time and was blown away when I finally looked backward from SD.
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:20 (eight years ago)
everyone feels so locked in for 45 minutes.
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:21 (eight years ago)
really all of their pre-Machina albums are perfectly paced, Billy's deep listening habits paid off when it came time to arrange his own records
― Simon H., Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:21 (eight years ago)
Full album results:
1 Siamese Dream 252 32 132 Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness 218 29 103 Adore 156 22 64 Pisces Iscariot 140 25 35 Gish 126 24 26 MACHINA/the machines of God 38 9 07 Machina II/The Friends & Enemies of Modern Music 16 7 08 The Aeroplane Flies High 12 3 09 1979 EP 10 2 010 Lull EP 6 2 010 Ogilala 6 1 012 Rarities and B-Sides 4 1 014 Earphoria 2 1 014 Zero EP 2 1 0
― ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:23 (eight years ago)
Billy's deep listening habits paid off when it came time to arrange his own records
I will choose to interpret this as meaning that Corgan was a seasoned participant in Pauline Oliveros's sonic meditation exercises.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:24 (eight years ago)
lol
http://www.crestfallen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/bc_bv.jpg
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:25 (eight years ago)
lol at no one voting for oceania
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:27 (eight years ago)
yeah i was a little surprised that ogilala (not even a pumpkins album!) was the only post-machinas album to get a vote
― ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:29 (eight years ago)
No real surprises yet - I fully expected Adore to be up there, as much as I disagree with it, particularly not over Gish but I think Corgan was on form during the MACHINA period, it just wasn't presented in the best way.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:30 (eight years ago)
Someone had Ogilala at number 3.
― jmm, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:30 (eight years ago)
I would have voted for Mary Star of the Sea if I'd allowed it though. my ranking:
MCISSDAdore(Mary Star of the Sea)(hypothetical Machinas best of)GishMachina II
― ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:32 (eight years ago)
No votes for Oceania because I didn't submit a ballot.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:33 (eight years ago)
couldn't decide which 25 pumpkins songs were actually worth talking about eh
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:33 (eight years ago)
xp nice
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:34 (eight years ago)
anyway I'm sure there will be surprises for some of you in the tracks rollout
― ufo, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:35 (eight years ago)
No, I couldn't be arsed - putting together a ballot wasn't a priority and I would have found it impossible anyway. I'm sure almost every song that places will be at the least very good, as long as people haven't got stupid and filled their ballots full of lower tier b-sides.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:37 (eight years ago)
what's your favorite b-side turrican
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:38 (eight years ago)
Policing what people should talk about in the voting thread was a priority
― jmm, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:40 (eight years ago)
xpost:
'Starla'! Looking at the tracklisting for Pisces Iscariot, I could have easily voted for stuff like 'Whir' and 'Frail+Bedazzled' but not all of their B-sides/outtakes are of the same quality.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:45 (eight years ago)
Mellon CollieSiamese Dream1979 EPPisces IscariotMACHINA
Gish was in the #5 spot until late on - the softer psychedelic moments really make that album for me. I can definitely get behind Siamese Dream as #1, it was my favourite for years but I've just come to love the unwieldy sprawl of MCIS even more.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:50 (eight years ago)
my albums ballot:
Mellon CollieAdorePisces IscariotSiamese DreamGish
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:51 (eight years ago)
Albums:
AdoreMACHINA/the machines of godSiamese DreamPisces IscariotMachina II: Friends and Enemies of Modern Music
huh, forgot i even voted for machina ii
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 17:56 (eight years ago)
My album ballot:Siamese DreamMellon Collie and the Infinite SadnessPisces Iscariot
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 18:26 (eight years ago)
1. Siamese Dream2. Gish 3. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 18:44 (eight years ago)
Siamese DreamMellon Collie and the Infinite SadnessPisces IscariotAdoreGish
― Fetchboy, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 18:51 (eight years ago)
Siamese DreamGishOgilalaPisces IscariotMCIS
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 19:11 (eight years ago)
Ogilala at 3 is probably a challop, but I can listen to those first three albums the whole way through and enjoy every second. There are tracks on PI, MCIS, and Adore that I rate very high above anything on Ogilala. I'm sure Ogilala benefits from being fresh at the moment as well.
― Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 19:24 (eight years ago)
Pisces Iscariot AdoreMellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
― bedraggled vorticist (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 19:29 (eight years ago)
mine wasAdoreSiamese DreamMellon CollieGishMachina II
― Simon H., Wednesday, 4 April 2018 20:04 (eight years ago)
Pisces IscariotSiamese DreamGishMellon CollieAdore
― had (crüt), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 21:07 (eight years ago)