defend the indefensible: jack white

I found some evidence to bolster your questionable friend's claims. Brace yourself:

http://elvisqueso-iii.tumblr.com/post/74843085223/jack-white-best-bulge-in-rock

well hello. you might even say solid evidence.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8299798/jack-white-nicki-minaj-hip-hop-is-the-new-punk-rock

Funny that he seems mainly interested in the "extreme lyrical content" (at least in the quote excerpted in the article):

But Minaj, and her track "Only," in particular, set a new standard for him and what he's hoping to achieve in his work.

"I mean, some of those lyrics are like, ‘Holy shit!'" he told Clash. "I, as an adult, listening to that by myself, am shocked at some of the words that I’m hearing. But it’s brilliant! It’s brilliant to be able to say that, to be able to say whatever you want. I couldn’t get away with saying half of those things that Nicki Minaj says in that song. It’s just brilliant to see how far things have gone in that sense, and how cool it is for people to talk about these moments and say, 'Wow, check this out.'"

Now I'm picturing JW sitting in a tastefully appointed den, listening to "The Pinkprint," and wondering if he could "get away with" singing eat my a$$ like a cupcake...

i heard a song off this on the radio that sounded like ween doing a joke rage against the machine song

Whoa Jack White thinks hip-hop is the new punk rock! What trenchant insight...in 1980

"Hip-hop is like...its the CNN of the streets" Jack White, today probably.

Jack White is like one yr older than I am, how is he just now realizing this?

I agree but at the same time (in his "defense"), I bet some of his rock-d00d fans are like, "Hip-hop sucks, real music uses real instruments," etc. So maybe he's putting something useful into the world with these dorky-sounding musings.

Also, the pic at the top of that Billboard link made me straight LOL for like 20 secs. straight.

He looks like he's starring in a biopic about Johnny Depp

#teddyperkins

Nicki's eyes are like, "!!!?"

...having just listened to the initial track posted by Seward....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDGlN6mluGA

He has an attachment to the number three,[40][146] stemming from seeing three staples in the back of a Vladimir Kagan couch he helped to upholster as an apprentice.[54] His business ventures frequently feature "three" in the title and he typically appends "III" to the end of his name.[31] During the White Stripes 2005 tour in the UK, White began referring to himself as "Three Quid"—"quid" being British slang for pound sterling.[147]

I loved the stripes, seeing them in 2004 was all time classic, still great few times after but I hated doorbell and the icky thump single. Not heard this recent solo album but the other two are lyrically interesting but hes become way too maximalist, he repeats several obv musical themes, and I feel like hes really trying a bit too hard now to show hes open minded and up to date, not closed off to hip hop or other post-blues/rnr black genres (or for that matter, violins and brass, grrr) and I guess he knows rap has the popular edge but sometimes it looks a bit false, or like he is biting his tongue, like in that nikki interview. Though I did lol to see that he had included rakims dont sweat the technique in a live session. Also his production or just the sound of his first two solo records was kinda flat and boring.

Blunderbuss and lazaretto IIRC were incredibly samey too, as if they were a delayed double album.

yeah it's sad he's not more publicly racist

Um ok.

I'd love it if he produced Gary Clark or cody chestnut tbh. A song with Jay z (I think he was trying to do one), not so much. But if doing that keeps his pressing plant alive, then who cares really. Hes become a kind of one man industry since the stripes really. Living the vinyl dream.

song in the OP is the most entertaining thing I've heard from him I'll give him that

Black Math

i liked those first few stripes albums up through elephant, which felt like a peak but at the same time it felt clear that he had kind of reached the limits of his ideas, that he just had a couple basic moves that he could only rearrange different version of

new single feat. Q-Tip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPA67w3J_g0

idk what to make of it yet but bassline reminds me of Shivaree’s “Goodnight Moon”

There are few musicians I find as consistently annoying across pretty much all planes. Solo, bands, collaborations, guest, producer, fashion sense ...

this is almost defensible, but after the fourth idea gets plopped into the mix, it becomes like some 2004 Soulwax mashup and loses the plot.

I was so resistant to the White Stripes at first, it was actually My Doorbell's ridiculous jive talking that caught me off guard and let me enjoy them on their own terms, shortly before the well ran dry. Continuing on the classic rock trajectory, he's well into his wilderness years, awaiting some future Rick Rubin or Alison Kraus to reel it in for him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpNj60awEiM

I thought for sure this revive would be for the above… if one believes that the demand for vinyl records will continue for decades, then indeed it would make a lot of sense for, not necessarily the three majors, but a number of individuals with the resources and will to recognize an opportunity and establish some factories…not only do you have to assemble/manufacture the equipment, but find people with the know how, or train them… my understanding is that many folks who operated at various levels manufacturing vinyl records before 1987 are reluctant to go through the enormous expense again, having moved on 30-35 years ago, when it is not at all clear that possibly five years from now that the people who are presently into, ahem, vinyls will still be into it…

Is there a sensible compromise? Something that can help ease the backlog and likely demand going forward, but something that can likely stay operational for decades? I don't think the vinyl "boom" will last, but I don't think demand will shrink down to what it was 20 or 30 years ago.

Holy shit, that video is like a villain beaming in to a Batman movie. Albeit a very reasonable villain.

Fear of the Dawn almost gives me of Montreal vibes

Meg needs to come out of retirement so Jack can stop making background music for bad coffee shops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJUDoB0errI

i dig the guitar on the train song! i can't help it! it just sounds bitchinwickedcool to me. there, JACK WHITE, you are DEFENDED.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiCkdG67axI

jesus, what have i become...

actually two different guitars that he plays on the train song. i like the first one best.

all the boomers in your store are contagious

(i like jack white a modest amount, its like if i went to costco and tried the jack white sample id be like hey is this p good and then costco is like do you wanna pay $17 for a bigass bag of jack white and then i'd be like noooo that's too much thank you, but i will get another sample next time im here)

yah, a little goes a very long way.

“Sir Edward Scissor Blues” never fails to crack me up, and it’s what pops into my head whenever JW is mentioned.

this white stripes “conquest” video and song is just like the worst, lamest, most embarrassing shit ever. Jesus.

“Sir Edward Scissor Blues” never fails to crack me up, and it’s what pops into my head whenever JW is mentioned.

that is hilarious but where is it from? This thread is the only google hit for it.

If I remember right, Berman was palling around with one of the Black Keys and that was his nickname for White.

Good zing Berman

Great zing, but I would take one middling Jack White song over the entire Black Keys catalog.

The worst White Stripes song over the entire Black Keys catalog maybe but the Raconteurs and solo White aren't even sports bar jukebox-worthy.

I wouldn’t know. I’ve never heard anything after the Reconteurs’ debut single. Thanks for the warning.

the second raconteurs album is really really good. great rhythm section in that band too

WTF
The dude dropped a great record out of nowhere

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgNdTRU5xLbJZXvhYjSfFovo0MS1sOga2&si=bPnG4T_aiztaNgqx