Kacey Musgraves - 2013 Anticipation

ppl say its a new carly rae jepsen unless it takes off, thing to me is this is much better than carly, i mean you could easily have said that about the second rae sremmurd when it first dropped, shit didn't do well sales-wise until black beatles took off virally a few months later

plenty of ppl openly talked about how they were somewhat disappointed by her last album

idk why the carly comparisons are coming up, silly meme she tweeted aside. is p4k reviewing the album the tipping point into this territory?

she doesn't have a 'hit' like she did on the first album, but its not like that radio hit was 'call me maybe' lol ppl always liked her as an album artist

re deej: in order for there to be backlash, there needs to be a coherent media/hype narrative of "this is capital-Q Quality" to backlash against. that just wasn't there for pageant material, which everyone seemed to implicitly agree was good but not tastemaker crossover/premature "is this a classic?"-level good.

sure. but it also shows the irony of a 'backlash' which is that its less about quality than abt people's annoyance with the behavior of their peers lol

i don't disagree with that. my main takeaway from backlash culture is that it indicates a protectiveness concerning genre artists who make Very Good albums, and the tendency to then describe those artists as somehow "above" or apart from the genre they emerge from.

yeah thats dumb as hell, i think there's a reason i like kacey but dont spend a lot of time on country typically, but i def don't think its that she's better at country as much as she's better at things i like in pop songwriting

which is a totally valid reason! but also a distinction that a lot of ppl don't make, and one that kacey honestly has kinda dragged herself into, considering her twitter's been retweeting a bunch of the "i hate country -> new kacey comes on holy shit" memes as of late

haha ><

She's been doing a lot of woodshedding as an opening act, from the usual country pop suspects to Katy Perry. I assume she took advantage of the range of audiences to test out her new stuff, to see where she wants to go. I can't imagine her a standard issue huge country star, but I'm not exactly sure where she's going, either.

this is a good album, and not that it matters but it sounds the least country out of all her releases to my ears

quite different from same trailer different park at least

I like High Horse as a single but the sound of it is too sweet and upbeat to work with those “fuck you” lyrics imho.

I immediately liked this better than Pageant Material, but still sounds hella country to me. You can’t take the country out of that voice.

Lyrics still seem a little bland compared to the first record though.

Yes, it doesn’t seem to have much / any of the wit and sharpness that her first two records, and material for other singers, usually had.

Agreed. I thought she overdid the cleverness on PM at times, now I think she's gone too far in the other direction

I guess I'm just an asshole

I think this is nice
Pop country really brings out the ilminess in ilm, always has

is there a backlash to this album? I posted yesterday that I liked it, someone posted that they didn't (I think Alfred?). or is there some "wider internet discussion" turning against this album that's been out for like 4 days?

oh I guess there are a couple other negative posts above

she sounds like she smokes a lot of weed

Yeah Kacey is holding

Honestly that's the only thing about her that bugs me a little, too many weed songs and jokes. I think it's a shame that at this point when you say "Willie Nelson" the first thing most people think of is "weed," and not "incredible singer/songwriter/guitarist." She sorta similarly has too much going for her to typecast herself with the weed cliches.

Like, Bob Dylan, one of the greatest of all time, does "Rainy Day Women," and the stoner punchline follows him around for the rest of his career. Or Tom Petty, with "You Don't Know How It Feels." As if every single rock/country/rap/whatever act is not smoking pot all the time anyway.

i understand why it might be offputting -- but one might say she is normalizing (norml-izing haha) weed use for women? (bob dylan, willie nelson, and tom petty are men)

is there a backlash to this album? I posted yesterday that I liked it, someone posted that they didn't (I think Alfred?). or is there some "wider internet discussion" turning against this album that's been out for like 4 days?

― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:57 AM (fifty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my entire twitter feed has been "HOW DARE THESE CRITICS LIKE KACEY MUSGRAVES I BET THEY DON'T EVEN LISTEN TO COUNTRY" for seemingly the entirety of the past couple of days

also I don't particularly associate weed with Bob Dylan or Tom Petty and don't know that anyone else does, either (or Kacey, for that matter; she really doesn't sing about weed any more than, say, Eric Church or Dierks Bentley)

yeah I thought weed was no more common than craft beer or something

my entire twitter feed has been "HOW DARE THESE CRITICS LIKE KACEY MUSGRAVES I BET THEY DON'T EVEN LISTEN TO COUNTRY" for seemingly the entirety of the past couple of days

yikes, who are these people, they sound awful

I'm only on track 7 but this album is boring as shit, fuck

Like, Bob Dylan, one of the greatest of all time, does "Rainy Day Women," and the stoner punchline follows him around for the rest of his career. Or Tom Petty, with "You Don't Know How It Feels."

Haha, Josh, what frat guys from 1992 are you hanging out with that you’re encountering ppl tittering over the pot refs. in those songs?

I've been trying to figure out which specific folk album this reminds me of for like a week now and have yet to really do it; Suzanne Vega is the closest I've come but musically that's not right, it's only her voice

It sounds like Sheryl Crow to me

most Crow albums have propulsion, though

I can't believe the critical consensus was to pooh-pooh the weirdo blue state country album and fawn over a full pivot to H.O.R.D.E. Tour 1997/Vh1 playlist. Between this, Kesha and Lady Gaga, this is what happens when you don't tell people that the Natalie Imbruglia SPIN cover was not a totally normal thing at the time.

Give me more "Biscuits"

nice whiney i saw you workshopping your lilith fair material on twitter, i think you said paula cole then

where have all the whineys gone

Carly Triple A Jepsen

Or Tom Petty, with "You Don't Know How It Feels."

this one is so awesome though. let’s rollllllllllllllllllllllll another joint

most Crow albums have propulsion, though

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:33 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the drums on this are tight alfred

I've been trying to figure out which specific folk album this reminds me of for like a week now and have yet to really do it; Suzanne Vega is the closest I've come but musically that's not right, it's only her voice

YES!! I was thinking the same this morning. Reminds me of the acoustic stuff on 99.9F.

this album has plenty of movement but a lot of it is up and down instead of straight ahead

lilith fair jokes have aged really well

for the record, I didn't make any lilith fair jokes

ah ok nm then

the only pop music whiney likes is fossilized skronky beats from 2005

also the lack of propulsion is what makes songs like "oh what a world" and "love is a wild thing" so good... i find the application of the rubric limiting!!

yeah it's kinda dreamy

it reminds me of like a pop country version of neil young harvest moon sorta?

It comes down to my aversion to her voice and the singer-songwriter staidness of the arrangements, despite the vocoders and disco-lite filigrees. The Brandy Clark album from two years ago does a lot better with similar attempts to send electrical shockers through the material.

But half this album is good! It's impossible to hate imo

it reminds me of like a pop country version of neil young harvest moon sorta?

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:22 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is a good analogy, as well as the 99.9F analogy upthread

the only pop music whiney likes is fossilized skronky beats from 2005

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, April 3, 2018 11:19 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ah, yes, I'm denying great progressive leap of ... sounding like Paula Cole records

In Tennessee, the sun's goin' down
But in Beijing, they're heading out to work

^^ this lyrics from Slow Burn made me think of Neil, that sort of odd aside he sometimes throws into lyrics that makes no "sense" but feels somehow more affecting than it scans on the page

the only pop music whiney likes is fossilized skronky beats from 2005
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, April 3, 2018 11:19 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ah, yes, I'm denying great progressive leap of ... sounding like Paula Cole records

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:32 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

where have all the d-boys gone?

What’s wrong with Paula Cole?