slowdive: classic or dud?

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The latest Mojave 3 album's a bit too wanky sounding for me and yeah, it probably could've used some Rachel in there too.

― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 11 December 2003 01:03 (twenty-two years ago)

What exactly is this "classic songwriting," Ned?

― Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Thursday, 11 December 2003 01:06 (twenty-two years ago)

"What exactly is this "classic songwriting," Ned?"

I'm guessing the traditional 60s/70s derived Beatles fodder.

If I'm right, I like Ned even more than I thought I did.

― Stupid (Stupid), Thursday, 11 December 2003 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not so much the songwriting itself as it is the blind worship of that time/place/style as being the only correct one. Well, fuck that noise, but I've said that enough times over the moons on this board.

I'd love to compile those first 3 EPs on a CD

Having done this, I can assure you it's worthy. Blue Day is an incomplete compilation of these tracks.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 December 2003 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

what tracks are left off? i have all 3 EPs

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 11 December 2003 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

stacey q urinates on slowdive from r kelly heights.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

good for her

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 11 December 2003 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)

toot toot

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)

There is pervertalism here I will have no truck with.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 December 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, the missing three songs are "Avalyn II," "Golden Hair" (a Syd Barrett-reworks-James Joyce cover) and "Catch the Breeze," which admittedly is unchanged from Just For a Day.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 December 2003 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I listened to Pygmalion tonight after reading this thread -- it remains unbelievably beautiful.

― Clarke B., Thursday, 11 December 2003 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone have this "Blue Day" disc?

Waaah no one reads my posts waaaah

― Leee Iacocca (Leee), Thursday, 11 December 2003 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)

i have slowdive live at band explosion sept 91, which im going to mp3 at some point. actually, i have it on video as well, if i can figure out how to convert that

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 11 December 2003 08:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Curious all this Slowdive love at the mo because only last week I dug out an old tape - unmarked as usual - and found it was a Slowdive live set recorded for Peel in the autumn of '91, followed by the superb Telescopes session from the same month. That's been played a lot at home, and I've got "Pgymalion" waiting to play on the way home tonight, it's a late night train journey in the dark kind of CD and that's what's happening tonight.

No love for the "5EP" here? That's like the perfect mid-point between "Pygmalion" and "Souvlaki". I think I'll have to compile all the EPs together at some point, should make for a stunning collection.

― Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 11 December 2003 09:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, so 'Golden Hair' is basically the only thing missing on Blue Day..
Just for a Day is their only mediocre release, I'd say. Pretty formulaic and a bit boring.. Souvlaki, along with Disintegration, = album I've most listened to. Not dated at all and 'Sing' leaves me awestruck to this day, despite the numerous memories I now attach to that song.

― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 11 December 2003 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Ok, so I'm catching up on threads, and I saw this one. Hurrah!

Someone really cool and nice once sent my way an mp3 of Slowdive's "Souvlaki Space Station" and it just about sent me into orbit. I still continue to swoon over this track. It is very dreamy, very atmospheric, very wonderfully perfect for chilling out and letting the day melt away. The same goes for another song off the Souvlaki album, "Some Velvet Morning", which just so happens to be the song I'm listening to now.

*sighs happily* I've been looking to segue away from pure fangirlishness, you know, and actually listening to the whole of the Souvlaki album just might do the job.

― Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 12 December 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

some velvet morning actually wasnt on the album at the time, and might have been added to a reissue version (or the US version perhaps). have you heard the nancy sinatra and lee hazlewood original dee?

― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 12 December 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

The US version -- it was originally done for an issue of Volume and was then attached to the delayed American Souvlaki will all the tracks from the 5 EP except for "In Mind" itself, annoyingly enough.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 December 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

you heard the nancy sinatra and lee hazlewood original dee?

*laughs* I think you might be confusing me with someone who has a broad knowledge of music, hon. I've only heard That Big Hit by Nancy Sinatra and have yet to check out anything by Lee Hazlewood, but I do have to say that earlier on I decided to do an ILE search and found out that it was a cover. Eh. I love Duran's "Watching The Detectives" and I know for damn sure it's a cover, so there's nothing wrong with counting covers here.

Eh. Methinks I should Google before mentioning Other Musical Artists, then. Because I sure as heck don't want to retreat back into that land of fangirl exclusivity (read: only listening to one musical artist for a huge block of time).

― Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 12 December 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Firewater just released a version (well, they're about to...tho' I snagged an early promo) of "Some Velvet Morning" with Britta from Luna dueting with Tod. `Tis gorgeous.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 12 December 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

i'll upload the original mp3 for you dee, when i get back to england

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...

From: http://www.chromewaves.net

"I'll warn you straight off - today's post is dedicated to shoegazer
giants Slowdive. If you're not interested, scroll down. Waaaay down.
Why the love-in? Well, the Reading, England-based band will be the
recipients of a double-disc anthology entitled Catch The Breeze on
Sanctuary Records, out September 27 in the UK. I say "recipients of"
because no one from the band had any hand in putting this together [-Ed says Rachel had a bit of input]. Content-wise, it's a decent enough
collection of stuff from their three albums and some EPs (Full
tracklisting here) and considering how hard the non-album material and
Pygmalion are to find, it's filling a real gap in record store shelves."

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 29 July 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Also: The new Rachel Goswell album is so...boring...that it depresses me :/

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 29 July 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

it's terrible. there's one good song on it.

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 29 July 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Funny, because the whole thing sounds like one song to me.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 29 July 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

but the EP was so lovely!

― purple patch (electricsound), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Agreed -- I listen to the Rachel Goswell album and I can't remember a thing about it five minutes later.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

neil h says he is buying back the rights to the albums and is gonna do the proper reissue sometime with loads of unreleased material. i'll wait for that. the rachel album is horrible, tis a shame. they shouldn't do solo albums cause the neil h solo record was terrible too.

― keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 29 July 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know, "driving with bert" is pretty great.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

but then i liked the brendan perry solo album a lot.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

agreed- Driving with Bert is maybe the best thing Halstead's written. I love it that much. There are a couple of lousy songs(Two Stones in my Pocket, Dreamed I saw Soldiers) on the album, but the good ones are incredible.

I really like the Rachel Goswell album, but then I like that sort of thing; brings me be back to the stuff I was into from 12-15 or so. It's really quite pretty, even fragile. Search 'Deelay' and 'Plucked', sort a start. I can see the argument that it's eminently forgettable, though... a shame.

― derrick (derrick), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i was hoping the rachel g album would be fragile, but it's middle of the road rock for the most part, kinda like late model kristen hersh. the neil h album is aimless, it's not cheery or melancholy, it just sort of exists in some strange position in between that doesn't evoke any feelings whatsoever.

they are already doing another mojave 3 album, allegedly.

― keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

there's about 5-6 fragile songs, and, yeah, 3-4 MOR rock songs, maybe a couple more. I usually skip track 3 and 12, to be honest.

the halstead album, though... how does 'Driving with Bert' not completely slay you? The chorus of 'Hi-lo and In Between' as well? hm.

― derrick (derrick), Friday, 30 July 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe i am just put off by the orange?

― keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 30 July 2004 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

Why did no-one tell me about the Slowdive bootleg 'I saw the Sun' packed full of Souvlaki-era unreleased stuff??

― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Friday, 26 November 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

just to stirl up trouble...

Does anyone else this that Spirit Or Eden by Talk Talk was way more important than any of the bands mentioned in this thread? (barring mbv ov course)

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Saturday, 27 November 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Important isn't even the word, just way better.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Saturday, 27 November 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

You can like all of 'em. As I do.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 November 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I’m still brand new but wanted to chime in, though I find it strange that you guys have all these classic or duds posts.

I would say classic but happen to really like a lot of stuff that came out around that time and would not put dud next to many bands except something like Curve. I also think its silly to compare Slowdive to Mojave 3 because they are very different bands. Mojave 3 are often overlooked because of the former but I think they are also really good. The best M3 album, IMO, happens to be Out Of Tune with the glorious “This Road I’m Travelling.” I will agree that Rachel’s album is just kind of there because I never listen to it. Neil’s album, on the other hand, is quite good though it does have a few fillers. I even think I listened to it more than the last M3 album. I was on slsk last week and Neil Halstead happened to be hanging out in one of the rooms. I joined the room after he was already chatting and was wondering why everyone was acting so strange. He was having computer problems and left. So I was writing about this on a music message board I usually post at, than low and behold he came back. He was saying that he is going to have a new solo album come out in February. I tried to say hi but his computer was having problems and I never got a word in edge wise.

Moose are brilliant and will have to disagree with most of you on this thread again. The reason I say that is because they became better once they put away their petals, though I love that stuff as well. Moose turned into one of the best bands of the 1990’s once they mellowed out.

-Bee

― BeeOK (BeeOK), Saturday, 27 November 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm interviewing slowdive - neil and rachel - on monday - any questions?

― doomie the saint (jimmy the sainted kid of death), Saturday, 27 November 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Ask Meil about the label he's working on putting together. You might always want to ask him about the studio he built. For both. I'd also like to know how they feel their solo projects differ from M3. I'd be weary of asking too many Slowdive related questions: I'm sure they'd both rather talk about present projects.

― grapeshine (grapeshine), Saturday, 27 November 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

ALthough, it'd be nice to know if there are any re-issues lined up...

― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Saturday, 27 November 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

An archival live album might be nice, if the reissue generates enough interest. Based on the three times I saw them and the bootlegs I've heard, it would be well worthy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 November 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

This bootleg of unreleased stuff I just dl-ed off Soulseek is great. A treat for a slow week-end...

― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Saturday, 27 November 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree with bee, moose improved immeasurably once they went country. the early eps are great but they found their stride or their sound when they discovered 'witchita lineman'. russell moose has too lovely a voice for it to have remained obscured by the pedals. they are recording a new record now, according to the le grand magistery website.

― keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 27 November 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to thank Andy K. for making some CDRs for me of all sorts of Moose rarities and goodies -- v. good of him! And good for Moose for keeping on keeping on -- who'd've thought they'd be the long haul band in the end?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 November 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, I know this is not the appropriate (or however you spell that) thread for requests but I've being DYING to get hold of some of those Moose rarities (Moon is Blue, Boy, Kidney Bingos, etc.) Any chance you could share some of them (totalpop at gmail)?

― daavid (daavid), Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

...they are recording a new record now...

OMG I AM CRYING WITH JOY NOW!

― daavid (daavid), Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm interviewing slowdive - neil and rachel - on monday - any questions?

Ask them if they know whatever happened to Blind Mr. Jones. Neil & Rachel were friends of theirs, and I always wondered where/what bands they disappeared to

― Gator Magoon (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 27 November 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Keith, where in the LGM website did you find that Moose were recording a new album?

― daavid (daavid), Saturday, 27 November 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

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