pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

By the by, really, but 1998 - Gorguts and maybe Death aside - was a weirdly shit year for metal.

my fave amon amarth album came out in 1998. i played that a lot. and i loved sin/pecado by moonspell. there was good stuff. absu, naglfar, other stuff. i played my arms, your hearse a lot too but i don't really play it anymore.

I can't vouch for that entire Cannibal Corpse album but "Sentenced To Burn" is one of their best songs.

The self-titled System Of A Down is pretty solid imo.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/7978-the-hush

seems just like yesterday

i'd also remove Spoon, it feels like a few things are just in there as filler because the artists did far better work later and became pitchfork darlings.

― jamiesummerz, Wednesday, February 14, 2018 10:09 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think they've always liked that Spoon album fwiw

― Evan, Wednesday, February 14, 2018 10:33 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

People who prefer post-Sneaks Spoon are weird to me.

it's all good. up until the last couple maybe

I assumed they thought the Spoon album was pretty good when placing it in their original top 100 of the decade.

"What HQ Trivia Host Scott Rogowsky Is Listening to Right Now"

I just came here to post the same thing:
https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/what-hq-trivia-host-scott-rogowsky-is-listening-to-right-now/
All native marketing is disorienting to an extent but this really made me doubt my own reality for some reason.

Man, just found out that P4k published their spicy takedown of a 19-year-old Sublime record three days after what would have been Bradley's 50th birthday :(

that's messed up. didnt even see that review, bout to check it. i already hate it.

yeah, that record has some problems, but it's great!

Don't get how they can tear down Sublime, and yet give multiple BNAs to cheap knock off Vampire Weekend.

could give a fuck about Sublime but that review was a disgrace

Rostam:

"Growing up, I was into classical music and the Beatles and also Achtung Baby by U2. But then something changed in fifth grade and I started getting into modern rock radio. And I remember hearing the Sublime CD 40oz. to Freedom, and having my mind blown by it. I still listen to that album. I stand by it. Come at me-- I'll defend it even though it's homophobic and misogynistic. Musically, it's one of the most forward-thinking albums of the 90s.

The problem with Sublime now is that their music exists through people who still listen to Sublime-- and a lot of them may or may not be douchebags. I'm not going to make any judgements. But if you take their first album on its own terms, it really is amazing. I actually bought [Vampire Weekend frontman] Ezra [Koenig] 40oz. to Freedom a few years ago. He started getting into the third album, Sublime, and I was like, "No, dude, 40oz. is so much better." If you listen to KROQ in L.A., they still play Sublime three or four times an hour. It lives on."

i love this line from that Sublime review

On “Right Back,” he dismisses his girlfriend as a ho and strongly suggests he slept with yours

"can you believe deceased musician Brad Nowell implied he had relations with your significant other?"

yeah, that record has some problems, but it's great!

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, February 28, 2018 3:01 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah! that review was bad. i thought weiss's review was p good sitting through a shitty band - SUBLIME POLL

I didn't realize Vampire Weekend actually copped to the Sublime influence. Those are some remarkable quotes. I had to look them up because I wasn't sure if they were real or elaborate Whiney fanfic.

sublime is kinda terrible tho

maybe they aren't your kind of music but as a band they were pretty together. that album's pretty good, i had a nice time rediscovering it last year.

couldn't really care what they think of 40 oz. i'll go to pitchfork if i ever need the top 3 songs by the voice of some quiz app

Glad we brought it back around.

i liked the review!

i didn't think it took any cheap shots. sublime is a terrible band. i also loved them as a teenager. the reviewer did a pretty good job of describing why sublime was exceptional in their succeeds and why a lot of people were drawn to them but also why they are a repulsive and awful group.

*success

*cueing up 40oz btw*

also those quotes from gwen stefani were hilarious

'repulsive and awful' feels like a huge overstatement

Enjoying way more of their recent 4.0 to 7.0 albums than 8.1 and up.

40 oz is better than the last St Vincent album.

I wonder if a review of their self-titled would've gotten a better reception, since it's the one with much more critical acclaim

i l x or sublime wars
i can't take it anymore

'repulsive and awful' feels like a huge overstatement

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, March 1, 2018 12:05 AM (sixteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol do we need to post lyrics

. i thought weiss's review was p good sitting through a shitty band - SUBLIME POLL

― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:17 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

weiss's review is defintely better

uh oh im getting outwoked because i think calling them a 'repulsive and awful group' is an overstatement

fuck that snobby new AWK review

Also, if any p4k copy editors read this thread

The self-help angle, honed by years of motivational speaking and advice-column side-hustle, is made explicit via three-minute spoken-word interludes—pep talks to help get you through your day, or maybe just the album itself.

That should be three minute-long interludes, not three-minute interludes.

like would it kill him to describe the actual music? most of this is hand wringing about the lack of subtext and nuance and whether he is authentic or not. like a re-heated review of "I Get Wet" from 17 years ago

"some mindless 1988-ass arena pablum"

one mention of Bruce Springsteen (?) no Roxy Music, Cheap Trick, ELO, Queen, Bowie, etc. put this into context you "writer"

like would it kill him to describe the actual music?

yeah this struck me as well, you'd think it was identical to his previous records, which it really isn't.

paging carles

Happy International Women's Day!

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— Pitchfork (@pitchfork) March 8, 2018

lmao

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that the conceit of the song isn't "girls are all equally wonderful!"

Pitchfork really on a streak today:
https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/meet-the-man-unapologetically-selling-the-cars-biggie-and-tupac-were-shot-in/

At least the Yo La Tengo interview was nice I guess

I tend to be kind of a pitchfork apologist but yeah that andrew wk review was not great and very weirdly cynical. dude needs to party more.

“You’re Not Alone,” the big finish, manages to wring poignancy out of the most obvious and obviously stated sentiment.

so cynical he can't help but use obvious twice in one sentence

You know a classic rock-indebted album is unique when ILM loves it and pitchfork thinks it's meh

Vince Staples’ GoFundMe for Early Retirement Was Briefly Removed

It’s back now!

perhaps most lol thing about these kind of banal non-stories is pitchfork believing they require a byline for some reason