yeah Jimmy went missing during the recording of SD and the rest of the band actually got on the radio and issued a missing persons report on an alternative rock station. and then someone saw him at an R.E.M. gig.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:53 (six years ago) link
anyway...
Working on transcribing the D'arcy interview, this is really something special!— Alternative Nation (@AltNationNet) February 13, 2018
whoops, unintended question mark^
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:54 (six years ago) link
I don't think he ever wanted to fire Chamberlin, I think he just wanted to shock him into sobering up.
Well, yeah. They're the same thing. Seeing that Jonathan Melvoin *died* while shooting up heroin with Jimmy present, he didn't really have an alternative.
I do believe Billy genuinely wanted D'Arcy on board, not for revenue but to re-live the dream. It's ironic, or more very much in character of this band, that trying to arrange the reunion is going exactly as how things went before: with lots of frustration and pass-agg, nigh on impossible. It was ever thus.
It's all very unbecoming and ugly. That goes for Alternative Nation's role in this, too: dumping selected texts? Come on man.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
This might be nagl, but: what happened to D'Arcy anyway? The photos accompanying these recent articles are... not good. Was she on drugs? Or has she been ill?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:03 (six years ago) link
She started getting plastic surgery after Adore and was close to unrecognizable on the Arising tour in the spring of 1999. She quit/was fired later that year, then got arrested for trying buy crack in Chicago in early 2000, and has been in the woods since then. She called into Q101 in Chicago in 2009 and gave a rambling, barely coherent life update, said she "isn't healthy enough to be a musician," then a few years ago she was arrested for letting the horses on her farm escape. her mugshot was brutal. oh yeah and she's been on facebook for many years, I think I friended her in 2011 or something.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:10 (six years ago) link
Thanks Flappy. The only thing I knew was that she'd become a farmer, or lived on a farm, whatever. I had drinks with the band (my first true love, musically) after a show in '96, and they were all really nice (it's on this forum somewhere idk). It comes across as if D'Arcy wants to be part of this reunion too, but she's two decades removed from the music world. I doubt it will gel between all them. The mudslinging is nagl though.
("Arrested for letting horses escape" sounds like some bizarro world shit though! How the hell is that an offence? Either make it an offence to keep horses, or make it an offence for horses to escape, in which case the horses should have been arrested for breaking free. But being arrested for not being able to confine horses? Makes u think)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:22 (six years ago) link
they were roaming around the town and shit, causing a ruckus. idk it's some farmer law
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:25 (six years ago) link
Were the throwing tp rolls from trees? Trashing the 7-11? ;)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link
of course there's livestock laws, you can't just let your livestock run around wherever, how dense are smashing pumpkins fans?
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link
fukkin coastal elites I tell ya
lmao
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:45 (six years ago) link
The D'arcy interview is up. Some clarity, some openness about drug problems, lots of dissembling and incoherent dodging, also lots of valid pointing at Corgan doing the same. I'm certain she's not well enough to do a tour, and especially that she and Billy ought not be in a working relationship with each other.
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 03:32 (six years ago) link
He just would throw tantrums and I would laugh at him. James would say, ‘Don’t laugh at Billy!’ Why not? Who died and made him God?
🙏🙏🙏
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 03:52 (six years ago) link
D'arcy rules so hard
I predict that if the original four of them start playing together that within months they'll be at each others throats again... and if they manage to make a record before dissolving in acrimony, in the afternath Billy will be all like "I did all the work, as usual. Me, me, memememememeeeeee!"― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, July 24, 2017 3:55 PM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, July 24, 2017 3:55 PM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well, it didn't actually get as far as all four of 'em playing together, so... 'nuff said.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link
Far out, I did not know this existed. http://billycorgan.livejournal.com/tag/confessions
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 15 February 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link
wow
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 February 2018 12:58 (six years ago) link
i dunno why i'm surprised that billy corgan, perhaps the livejournaliest rock star of his generation, did indeed have a livejournal, but here we are
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 February 2018 13:01 (six years ago) link
[ Tags | 1973, confessions, kicking ass, playing doctor, vagina, writing lines ]
― Simon H., Thursday, 15 February 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link
i guess corgan was a big chelsey minnis fan...
― lowercase (eric), Thursday, 15 February 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link
The D’arcy interview inspired me to play a bunch of Smashing Pumpkins bass parts on Rocksmith (this game rules btw) yesterday. They are all pretty fun but certainly not complicated. I don’t understand why you would need a studio musician to tour with. Especially Peter Hook’s son (???). However, I suppose there’s a difference between playing in my living room and a stadium (or large theater ... or probably an “intimate” theater ... or whatever the Smashing Pumpkins can sellout in 2018).
― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link
Regardless, whatever bassist they have should get combat pay for sitting through the first half of Disarm.
― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link
If you’re curious, it’s enough time to finish a boss in the Dungeon Run mode of Hearthstone.
― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link
You guys haven’t read his confessions?? Oh my god... you thought the Kim thayil article was rich
― flappy bird, Thursday, 15 February 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
Los Angeles, CA - FEBRUARY 15, 2018 - GRAMMY® Award-winning, acclaimed alternative rock pioneers The Smashing Pumpkins today announced the Shiny And Oh So Bright Tour, their first tour in nearly 20 years to feature founding members Billy Corgan, Jimmy Chamberlin, and James Iha. Produced by Live Nation, the 36-city tour will kick off in Glendale, AZ on July 12, 2018 and visit North American arenas throughout the summer. Tickets for the Shiny And Oh So Bright Tour will go on sale to the general publicstarting next Friday, February 23 at 10:00am local time and be available at www.smashingpumpkins.com, LiveNation.com, and via the Live Nation App.“Some 30 years ago, as The Smashing Pumpkins, James Iha and I began a musical journey in the cramped rear bedroom of my Father's house. And so it's magic to me that we're able to coalesce once more around the incredible Jimmy Chamberlin, to celebrate those songs we've made together,” shared Corgan.The band broke news of the tour this morning with a dramatic video featuring original Siamese Dream album cover stars Ali Laenger and LySandra Roberts. Watch the clip HERE.https://youtu.be/_Axm5b3i1gAThe monumental Shiny And Oh So Bright Tour, which coincides with the 30th anniversary of the band’s formation, will highlight music from the group’s inception through 2000, and will exclusively feature material from their groundbreaking debut Gish through Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, Adore, and Machina. Longtime Smashing Pumpkins guitarist Jeff Schroeder will also take part, as the band moves to a three guitar lineup to better emulate the signature tones and textures of their albums.“This show and staging will be unlike any we've ever done, and will feature a set unlike any we've ever played. For if this is a chance at a new beginning, we plan on ushering it in with a real bang,” added Corgan.
“Some 30 years ago, as The Smashing Pumpkins, James Iha and I began a musical journey in the cramped rear bedroom of my Father's house. And so it's magic to me that we're able to coalesce once more around the incredible Jimmy Chamberlin, to celebrate those songs we've made together,” shared Corgan.
The band broke news of the tour this morning with a dramatic video featuring original Siamese Dream album cover stars Ali Laenger and LySandra Roberts. Watch the clip HERE.
https://youtu.be/_Axm5b3i1gA
The monumental Shiny And Oh So Bright Tour, which coincides with the 30th anniversary of the band’s formation, will highlight music from the group’s inception through 2000, and will exclusively feature material from their groundbreaking debut Gish through Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, Adore, and Machina. Longtime Smashing Pumpkins guitarist Jeff Schroeder will also take part, as the band moves to a three guitar lineup to better emulate the signature tones and textures of their albums.
“This show and staging will be unlike any we've ever done, and will feature a set unlike any we've ever played. For if this is a chance at a new beginning, we plan on ushering it in with a real bang,” added Corgan.
Unlike any we've ever done and a new beginning, says Corgan, as he reunites most of the band to tour the hits.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 February 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link
July 12 – Glendale, AZ @ Gila River ArenaJuly 14 – Oklahoma City, OK @ Chesapeake Energy ArenaJuly 16 – Austin, TX @ Frank Erwin CenterJuly 17 – Houston, TX @ Toyota CenterJuly 18 – Dallas, TX @ American Airlines CenterJuly 20 – Nashville, TN @ Bridgestone ArenaJuly 21 – Louisville, KY @ KFC Yum! CenterJuly 22 – Atlanta, GA @ Infinite Energy AernaJuly 24 – Miami, FL @ American Airlines ArenaJuly 25 – Tampa, FL @ Amalie ArenaJuly 27 – Baltimore, MD @ Royal Farms ArenaJuly 28 – Philadelphia, PA @ Wells Fargo CenterJuly 29 – Uncasville, CT @ Mohegan Sun ArenaJuly 31 – Boston, MA @ TD GardenAugust 1 – New York City, NY @ Madison Square GardenAugust 4 – Pittsburgh, PA @ PPG Paints ArenaAugust 5 – Detroit, MI @ Little Caesars ArenaAugust 7 – Montreal, QC @ Centre BellAugust 8 – Toronto, ON @ Air Canada CentreAugust 11 – Columbus, OH @ Schottenstein CenterAugust 13 – Chicago, IL @ United CenterAugust 16 – Kansas City, MO @ Sprint CenterAugust 17 – Indianapolis, IN @ Bankers Life FieldhouseAugust 19 – St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Energy CenterAugust 20 – Omaha, NE @ CenturyLink CenterAugust 21 – Sioux Falls, SD @ Denny Sanford Premier CenterAugust 24 – Seattle, WA @ Key ArenaAugust 25 – Portland, OR @ Moda CenterAugust 27 – Oakland, CA @ Oracle ArenaAugust 28 – Sacramento, CA @ Golden 1 CenterAugust 30 – Los Angeles, CA @ The ForumSeptember 1 – San Diego, CA @ Viejas ArenaSeptember 2 – Las Vegas, NV @ T-Mobile ArenaSeptember 4 – Salt Lake City, UT @ Vivint Smart Home ArenaSeptember 5 – Denver, CO @ Pepsi CenterSeptember 7 – Boise, ID @ Ford Idaho Center
― flappy bird, Thursday, 15 February 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link
so Billy has said having Jimmy back means they can play "3 hour sets" - I expect hits from every era, plus a handful of the epics like Porcelina, Geek, Soma, Mayo, Ruby... sounds pretty good to me. and glad I won't have to travel to see this
― flappy bird, Thursday, 15 February 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link
I have serious doubts about them being able to fill such big arenas in so many cities.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 15 February 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link
What's the biggest audience the Pumpkins have played in the last 11 years?
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
*played to
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
They are all pretty fun but certainly not complicated. I don’t understand why you would need a studio musician to tour with. as opposed to what, a DAT? they want a musician who is physically and mentally willing and capable of playing for hours, travelling for months, and handling interpersonal stress.
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
The press release going to great lengths to stress “only the good years”...
― Sam Weller, Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link
yeah^
i also have serious doubts about them being able to fill these arenas, even with james & jimmy back. I went to the 2012 Barclays show promoting Oceania that came out on blu-ray, and the place was at most half full. it was pathetic. then again, to the general public, SP2 basically doesn't exist... most people don't even know they ever got back together. Zeitgeist was over a decade ago. so this could get people out that weren't even aware of all the shit Billy's been up to since 2000. especially since this tour is backed by LiveNation, promotion is going to be more intense (i.e. billboards in times square)
― flappy bird, Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link
No Philly or Camden on the first leg? That seems odd.
― DavidLeeRoth, Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link
also weird that there's a baltimore gig but no DC gig
...probably because the arena in baltimore is half the size of the one they'd play in DC...
― flappy bird, Thursday, 15 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
My son just texted me asking if I wanted to go to their Austin show. Not sure how I feel about that.
― Moodles, Thursday, 15 February 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
I'm struggling to think of another band where the gulf between how much I love the music and how irritating I find the people that made it is this wide.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Thursday, 15 February 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link
will david lee roth be in this lineup
― akm, Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link
let's have an all-plastic-surgery lineup: D'arcy on bass, DLR on vox, Larry Mullet Jr on drums, Tori on keybs, a rotating assortment of 80s metal dudes on guitar
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Friday, 16 February 2018 02:33 (six years ago) link
Izzy Stradlin!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2018 02:52 (six years ago) link
I'm surprised to hear that a bunch of my son's high school friends are also hyped up about this tour. I had no idea that today's youth had an interest in this old timey muzak. It's kind of like when Pink Floyd and Page/Plant got back together in the 90s.
― Moodles, Friday, 16 February 2018 03:22 (six years ago) link
Frances Bean Cobain & Krist Novocelic Present: The Nirvana Experience (Featuring Dave Grohl)
― ...some of y'all too woke to function (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 February 2018 04:12 (six years ago) link
honestly surprised that he's actually doing pre-Zeitgeist material only, with no mention of whatever new music they were working on. that can only be a good sign
― ufo, Friday, 16 February 2018 04:53 (six years ago) link
So otm & also a huge selling point for most ppl I know. Because some of them were there in 2008 for the 10 minute covers of “Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun”
― flappy bird, Friday, 16 February 2018 04:56 (six years ago) link
Zwan did a killer cover of Silver Machine when I saw them at the Metro, iirc
― too notch (stevie), Friday, 16 February 2018 07:45 (six years ago) link
To be fair there are 5 or so post-Machina II songs that I’d be happy to hear live in addition to the old stuff. It hasn’t been ALL bad.
― Sam Weller, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link
yeah i know but dont give the big bad bald man any ideas
― flappy bird, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link
“And here’s an old favorite: ‘Being Beige’!”
― Sam Weller, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link
What was that? A sequel to Mayonaise or something?
― how's life, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:40 (six years ago) link