I Really Dislike Frank Sinatra: How alone am I?

lol i set it up, you knocked it down morbs

stick around, jack, it may show

besides disliking his musical output a lot there's something really off-putting about his face

like i try not to judge because people can't help their face shape, but he always makes me think of a sculpture bust that was so badly made it turned cursed and malevolent

Man, fuck Frank Sinatra; I can't go out for Italian, go to a mall, go to the fucking dentist without hearing this shit nonstop!

― Dan I., Tuesday, February 6, 2018 3:41 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

first thing I picture when I hear his music in my head is the Maggiano's next to the Border's near my parents house blaring Sinatra out front.

Man, fuck Frank Sinatra; I can't go out for Italian, go to a mall, go to the fucking dentist without hearing this shit nonstop!

― Dan I., Tuesday, February 6, 2018 3:41 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

weird, i don't hear him played as background music anywhere.

Literally everywhere that wants to project "class" or "manliness" or "classy manliness"

MitchDan I., out!

I mean, i don't spend a lot of time in haberdasheries, but I assume it's all sinatra all the time

Sinatra fucking rules btw

fuuuuck frank sinatra right in his smug mouth

Or, IDK, maybe it was excusable in his heyday but being into Sinatra was already atavistic in the 70s, forget about now.

you're atavistic

Watertown is one of my favorite albums ever and I'm glad no filmmaker has ever gotten around to making a movie out of it.

This ^^^

I was APPALLED to find no Watertown tracks on Alfred's best of list.

I hadn't heard it! Facebook friends introduced me.

Tell it to the judge.

Doobie doobie doo-doo imo

It's a testament to his talent that you can buy him as a working-class schlub just trying to keep his family together (while in reality he was, on top of everything else, a damned steel magnate)

I don't think I've ever listened to Sinatra on purpose. Him and Elvis, I get it but I don't really need it.

he was an awful person. and most of his most famous (nowadays) music sucks balls, and that badness is magnified a thousand times by the losers making a career off of being fake sinatras.

however, In the Wee Small Hours (and some of Where Are You?) is absolutely god tier amazing and pretty different to his usual swingin' prick persona.

challenging opinions

What's this about Sinatra's swinging prick?

Ava had no problem

fake sinatra sounds like the name of a ska band

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trash_Can_Sinatras

ILM lol

there was a fellow when I was in college who posted to a local music messageboard who was obsessed with that, among other lesser-known bands

certainly out of my realm of expertise

??? their second album is really great

Their fans call them "the Trashies"

not "Frank Jr"

darraghmac are you into trash can sinatras?

Hum their big hit

My wife is into the TCSs, they're good!

Btw the largest outdoor malls in L.A. play Frank Sinatra all the time. I mean I think it's literally all the time.

this thread is like if someone started a beach boys thread and just complained about how much they hated "kokomo" and how sick they were of all those stupid guys w/ their dumb surfboards trying to be cool. it's music for ppl who don't really like music, man!

nah man, beach boys is music for people who think they like music but don't

but re: sinatra being played non-stop in certain public places, are there any other artists that get this treatment? I've been in many public places where they seem to play Sinatra exclusively at all times. I think this is where the "music for people who don't really like music" thing comes from--there are a shocking number of people out there for whom music literally begins and ends with sinatra; they don't listen to anything else, at all. only thing I can think of that comes close is a dude I knew who had the complete discographies of leonard cohen and billy joel on his ipod and nothing else.

like maybe Jimmy Buffett in the florida keys?

i mainly hear sinatra in, like, those pizza places that have black and white photos of new york on the wall

oh shit, i just remembered what probably was subliminally the entire reason I posted in this thread in the firs place! I was recently dragged to a lower-middle-brow cathedral: the dale chihuly museum at the foot of the space needle, and it was all-sinatra up in there. it was very fitting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuIcRiHlHoY

I have def been in a supermarket in the last year (in Brooklyn) where the PA was tuned to the Sirius Sinatra station.

if u dont fuck with this song i dont wanna know u on a deep personal level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG9YAHYe80I

the fuck is wrong w you people

September of my Years is a great album, maybe my second-fave overall

I fuck with "water to drink"

xps all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5F6PXAZIRg

"if u dont fuck with this song i dont wanna know u on a deep personal level"

"the fuck is wrong w you people"

couldn't help but hear both of these in sinatra's speaking voice

well I mean I am frank sinatra so that makes sense

I hate Frank Sinatra because he’s a talentless mafia greaseball. I take severe offence at people referring to him as a “jazz” singer. I’m a jazz pianist and I’ve worked with a lot of talented jazz singers. Fundamentally, TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT and Frank Sinatra never did. He just sings songs like any shmuck can. He can’t improvise, so he’s not a Jazz singer. My Dad liked Frank Sinatra and I asked him why. My Dad then said “he had perfect pitch”. Who the fuck cares, millions of singers have perfect pitch. It’s very common. Frank Sinatra’s voice had a very boring and common timbre and anyone who defends his accolades obviously knows little about music or was completely brainwashed by the mob-pushed hype he was given by the music industry. To me, he is a pale copy of several African American TRUE artists that, due to the despicable racism of America, were forced to live in the shadow of his limelight as he completely ripped off their styling, phrasing, etc and lacked the skill of the most important component: soloing. I forgive my father for being a musical moron but, after all, he was a flagrant racist so what else should I expect. I blame J Edgar Hoover for turning a blind eye to the Sicilian mob and allowing this second rate lounge singer to attain such undeserved eclat.

I recently saw a rerun of Who’s the Boss Sinatra appeared on, and I remarked that he already looked and acted like a corpse, at which point my husband pointed out that this would have been around the time that Ronan Farrow was spawned.

You lost me a bit at the “true artiest” part because who’s to say, right, but I am right there with you up to that point. Great post