Why does anyone like the Fall?

no no fucking no

as someone who always feels a little bit weird abt public grief over celebrities I have to say I feel fucking devastated and honestly don;t know what to do with myself

an inferno of a human being and a monster poet who shaped my perspective from a young age and more than any other artist electrified my thoughts and inspired me to keep moving sideways

I'm so full of gratitude to him for refusing to ever rest in peace. I hope that now he can.

we're also mourning/talking over here

RIP Mark E. Smith

My main regret is that reformation post tlc did not sound even slightly like the mammoth hawkwindesque show they played here when the Americans and the current Britishes were briefly all in the lineup together

― or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, June 13, 2017 3:42 PM (seven months ago)

Jon is this the gig you were thinking of?

North 6, Brooklyn, NY 2004-10-15

TRACK LISTING

DISC 1 (57:08)

01 Bo Doodak................................(3:50)
02 Boxoctosis...............................(3:30)
03 All Clasp Hands..........................(2:57)
04 Theme From Sparta F.C....................(3:56)
05 Mod Mock Goth............................(4:41)
06 Wrong Place, Right Time..................(2:55)
07 I Can Hear The Grass Grow................(3:14)
08 Mr. Pharmacist...........................(2:06)
09 Mountain Energei.........................(4:42)
10 What About Us?...........................(7:37)
11 Janet, Johnny + James....................(3:12)
12 Green-Eyed Loco Man......................(5:10)
13 Blindness................................(7:01)
14 White Lightning..........................(2:08)

LINE UP

July - December 2004 : lineup # 51 : Mark E. Smith (vocals),
Elenor Poulou (keyboards), Ben Pritchard (guitar), Jim Watts (guitar),
Steve Trafford (bass), Spencer Birtwistle (drums).

No... it was definitely in greenpoint not Williamsburg and it was Tim Presley and the other American guy still left over from the post-implosion lineup, plus the newly added Dave the Eagle et al

thanks, I'll keep looking :)

ah, found the gig listing at least:

Friday, 2 June 2006 Southpaw, Brooklyn, NY

http://thefall.org/gigography/gig06.html

I do have a recording of that lineup in Pomono CA around 3 weeks prior, 2nd gig with the improvised new lineup, hit me up offline for a copy

"Pomona" sorry

Oh thanks but I’ve got Pomona and a few other shows from immediately after the implosion, it was so much fun to hear those as the tour progressed

Southpaw sounds right venue-wise

The best document of the 'American line up' - who remain my favourite of all the iterations of The Fall I saw live - or the best document that I've heard at least, is the DVD of the Last Night At The Palais (the CD mix is a little thin). I was there and it remains the best rock show I've seen in the last 15 years. The band bar Smith came on really late - even by their own standards, about 11pm, so pretty much at curfew - and there was a really tense atmosphere in the venue (aided no doubt by that weird VJ they used to have on in support around that time doing abrasive glitchy cut ups of Coronation Street or whatever and the fact that quite a few gigs round this time had fizzled out early, so I reckon a lot of people feared a no show) but then they opened with Senior Twilight Stock Replacer extended (on the fly I guess) into this incredibly heavy, taut jam and the already agitated crowd started getting *irate* at the idea that the plug was going to get pulled before he even bothered to come out on stage but were still going mad* to the locked groove. I remember the way that the gaps between Presley disdainfully looking to the wings got shorter and shorter until his nibs finally deigned to come on stage just to wrap the song up in about 30 seconds. If it had ended there it still would have been one of the best Fall shows I saw but when they played Blindness it was near perfect. I felt like I was about to start levitating about six minutes in. During the encore of Reformation the stage filled up with security and then there was the 'Thank you for letting us into your security area, we're off to civilisation, goodnight, thank you' goodbye. When the houselights came up some guy in the audience wanted a souvenir and ripped this huge 7' tall brass standard lamp out of the floor and charged out of the front door with it and sprinted off down the middle of the road with two bouncers in hot pursuit. Such a massive sound that line up made. Such a loss.

*this is the relative madness of Fall fans in London in 2007 I'm talking here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwuRkcqOAbI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_DqeOVOaxc

great description. listening to this now, it's goddamn mighty

whenever mark e smith, a 'non musician', commandeers a keyboard, he seems to make the most amazing music with it. it's weird

Yes I had an audience recording of that Palais show and that is a Blindness for the ages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzAOiA4dH_o

I liked the American lineup best of all the later Fall groups. Don't know why that album seems so unpopular.

The album just sounds kinda weak compared to how those guys played live. I tried to feel it but just couldn’t.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk1TP5EkLS4

"Totally Wired" was the first fall song i heard.

You don't have to be strange to be strange
You don't have to be weird to be weird

dammit its so good. i have always loved their writing: "Pay your rates" "Industrial estates" "Hex induction hour" so many great phrases and word combinations.

i love the messy keys too! love the noisy guitars. The Fall is so awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaC9htnMBGE

really like this cover of "A Day in the Life"

The American group just had more musicality than what I've heard from the others. "Fall Sound" sounded to me like a celebration of the fact that he, at least momentarily, had some people in the band that really got it. Something like "Coach and Horses" is the kind of thing that the old band used to provide for him.

I just bought a copy of that "American lineup" DVD, thanks y'all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Lt4ia-PYQ

Apologies, intended for the MES thread, not being The Fall.
Or: "Von Südenfed is an incarnation of The Fall": discuss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYcaaxgFJUU

Von Südenfed were the German line-up!

Sudenfed album is so great

I bought it on mp3 but then found a copy lying on the sidewalk in Chelsea a month later

dear dead friends

I was in my gaaaardennnn

Old news at this point I guess, but just learned that the rest of the group will be continuing under the name Imperial Wax.

https://www.facebook.com/Imperialwaxband/

That's nice

The Levitate reissue (my favourite Fall album!) has a killer second disc. Christmastide and a completely altered live Ol' Gang are revelatory

when did that come out?

like two weeks ago? the extra tracks are all from either the bonus disc from 1st pressings or the B-sides of the three "Masquerade" singles.

the bonus disc was always a favourite with the best version of pilsner trail/plaster on the hands and some v good remixes and minor tracks.

masquerade remixes are lasrgely yawn.

and yes imago otm about ol gang.

the name of this thread makes me mad every time I see it

Bend Sinister reissue is sounding magnificent, scrubbed of considerable murk

good to know, thanks. I kind of wish they'd stop tacking Peel Sessions on to these reissues but w/e

i like free peel sessions gimme more

no Peel tracks on the 2-LP set...second LP is singles and b-sides and they really sound great

the whole package is well done...includes a repro program for the "Hey! Luciani" play

Bob Stanley & Tessa Norton are doing a book: https://fabersocial.co.uk/2019/04/09/excavate-the-wonderful-and-frightening-world-of-the-fall/

god there used to be so much contention about Bend:Sinister production on the fall message boards. one nine eleven truther troll in particular managing to generate division about whether it was recorded a microsecond too fast or not.

need to look into this reissue more carefully. listening to it at the moment but not really getting the full vibes streaming from spotify via a hotel bluetooth speaker.

A riptide of integrity
He was a blubbering heap
He should have served himself up
Preferably in a restaurant with meat

Give it a minute...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkqXyTwFt6g

Roflz

lovely work

hah love it!

Fizzles must see this.

"it's not Pavement"

DYING