pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

aren't there more bands now?

or are you all saying "there were so many now-forgotten p4k bands"

yea

props to pitchfork for publishing this in 2018, re: The-Dream

The most fascinating part of Nash’s songwriting career has been his uncanny ability to write not just capably but empathetically from a woman’s perspective. He’s better at it than he is at writing songs for men (see: Beyoncé’s “Single Ladies”; Mariah’s “H.A.T.E.U.”; Kelly Rowland’s “Dirty Laundry,” a song that relives, in painful detail, a physically abusive relationship.) It’s a perspective Nash didn’t know he was capable of until he started writing songs, but in retrospect, he knows where it came from. “My mother gave birth to me when she was 19,” Nash described. “All her friends, were there at the house, talking about women problems—with men, usually. But I was just previewed to a lot of conversations and a lot of sensitive points, from a woman’s standpoint.” But his desire to understand more fully how a woman might see the world goes beyond growing up surrounded by women. “I felt like I lost my best friend, in one way,” he said of losing his mother so young. “In another way, that was the love of my life.”

with no mention of his being charged with choking and assaulting his pregnant ex

Yeah they usually manage to at least work in one uncomfortable paragraph about what we “must take into consideration” before jumping back into swoons. I was just sort of hovering over that whole review waiting for a disclaimer that never came.

https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/9a187cdc110e9a866c8efb998b1758c3/5B253835/t51.2885-15/e35/26332670_1993704127549624_5999378780555051008_n.jpg

It's a meme now.

lol

what kind of real music fan would care about a steely dan tour

none of my headlines are on here, shit meme

Yeah whoever made this could have tried harder.

how is october doing? they keep trying to tie it into the main p4k site and it is so transparent

Needs more Stranger Things headlines.

And James Franco sexual assault allegations.

"Bon Jovi are as divisive as it gets, but in a karaoke setting, “It’s My Life” has a supernatural ability to bring a room together"

how is october doing? they keep trying to tie it into the main p4k site and it is so transparent

― marcos, Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:02 PM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc october reads like it was written by a martian assigned to cover beer

"Dylan Farrow Slams Justin Timberlake for Working With Woody Allen"

is this the 2nd longest thread on ilx?

What’s the longest?

why do I hate that artist thing facebook thread

ooooh was confused for a sec mixing up 'longest' & 'oldest'

there used to be a ILX user by the name "Ryan Pitchfork" always wondered if it was this dude

i think so?

6 Great Albums Named After Other Great Albums

And Yo La Tengo aren’t the only veteran indie rockers pulling a “call me by your name” at the moment.

wordplay!

Haha nice headline today, Katherine

was actually very surprised it got used

Iol kudos on that

hahaha, that is amazing! very good piece, too.

hat tip

not according to all the hate mail I'm getting. love to stay up until 5 am so everyone can hate me

the justin timberlake review is another savage throwback. easy target but still

It’s remarkable how few ideas are contained within this hour-plus Blue Ridge Mountains mood board of an album. Man of the Woods is a misstep large enough to merit relitigating Justin Timberlake’s status as a pop superstar. How much of his career should we chalk up to fortune, privilege, and an essential malleability? Is working with Pharrell Williams and Timbaland—pantheon-level producers who collaborated extensively with Timberlake at or near the peak of their powers, and continue to do so—an act of creative genius, or just kismet? There may be no definite answers. But Man of the Woods’ failure invites the questions.

lol damn

6 Albums Out Today You Should Listen To Instead of Justin Timberlake

6 IPAs to enjoy while not listening to the new Justin Timberlake album: Listen

The tone of vindictive glee in that review is wayyyyy over the top. Like, the writer just desperately wanted the album to be bad because it proved the theory of Justin Timberlake they've been sitting on for the last 15 years and now the cultural and political climate is finally right for them to slam-dunk on him without losing any of their cool cred.

yeah and they built up to this review a day or two ago with an article dragging him for working with Toby Keith. like we are supposed to shit a brick because the guy about to play his second super bowl once worked with Toby Keith.

it's funny cos there is a link right there to when they gave him a BNM. i suppose when you suit the narrative, things are good

I've had the same theory for the last 15 years

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-50-best-albums-of-1998/

neutral milk hotel not topping this list is some end-of-an-era shit right there

They've finally I Get Wet'd Boy With The Arab Strap.

Truly, “Celebrity Skin” was the “Look What You Made Me Do” of its day.

But yeah, I'm not too surprised at ITAOTS not getting #1 on a Pitchfork list in 2018. It definitely would have hit #1 if they made this list 10 years ago, but they seem to value Influence On What Is Popular Now and Genre Diversity over everything else at the moment. No one making widely loved music today is shouting out Elephant 6. I mean, there's a touch of NMH about that Richard Dawson album from last year but it seems to owe more to fantasy tales and old folk songs than anything NMH did.

i'm pleasantly surprised not only that Elliott Smith's XO placed so high, but also that it placed above In the Aeroplane Over the Sea

there's a lot of good albums on that list, if I were a teenager in 2018 I imagine it would be a great resource

whenever I see the opening posts I wonder if most of the criticism itt is nonsensical

xp agreed

the palm album has a lot of elephant six elements. it also just got a meh mid six review so....

(also it more resembles the fringier e6 bands like secret square, spindly textures and off kilter melodies. i think it’s very good)

This is actually a pretty P4k Classic list with a lot of IDM and indie rock that looks p indistinguishable from the ca. 2002 lists when they started getting serious about Top 50s. I would imagine about 35-40 of these would have made the cut if they had crossed the 12 Rods/Billy Breathes point earlier. Certainly not my Top 50 but def feels like that ol’ 4k. Can’t knock the hustle

*sheds a single tear for Mansun*

Black Star and the back end of Hello Nasty have aged very poorly tho

still dig "I Don't Know" because it reminds me of cute dumb guys sharing drunken wisdom whom I momentarily crushed on in college.