Come on now, admit it - who here likes/has liked the Cranberries?

The strange thing is I was actually listening to 'When You're Gone' when the news broke. Just the weirdest coincidence.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Monday, January 15, 2018 1:50 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heard this just a few days ago in a public place and was singing along with my friends.

Stinkin

friend, not friends. somehow three or more people singing 'when you're gone' in a public place sounds weird

One of the most distinctive rock voices of her generation imo. I love the first album especially, and also the "Uncertain" EP that came out in '91. This song went on a lot of mixtapes in the early '90s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e43LhSk-Mm8

This will get a big wave of tributes in the Irish press. They look after - or, are very interested in - their own.

― the pinefox, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:55 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is a weird thing to write. who isn't? what's your point?

When I lived in Mexico, people were very impressed when I said I was from Limerick, the city where the cranberries came from

The death of Cranberries singer Dolores O'Riordan is not being treated as suspicious by the Metropolitan Police.

that just means it's not foul play

it's weird how everyone suddenly loves the Cranberries but treated them like a complete joke beforehand

Thought the consensus view was that first LP was excellent, second patchy, third embarrassing, dunno after that, so people have been talking about Linger and Dreams rather than I Just Shot John Lennon, seems fairly standard response imo.

xpost Who loves the Cranberries? Or was that a joke?

xpost Who loves the Cranberries? Or was that a joke?

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:34 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

surely in reference to the fact that a couple of days ago literally nobody gave 2 shits about the cranberries but yesterday there was a bunch of glowing assessments of their music in obits.

I've always liked linger and dreams tbh

THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT> DOLORES NEVER FAKED HER LIVE PERFORMANCES> SHE PLAYED ALL HER PARTS> I WAS THERE FOR ALL THEIR SHOWS AND IT WAS ALL FOR REAL> MISTER NED RAGGETT I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GET YOUR STORIES BUT CRACKER CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT BUT THEY WILL ALWAYS SUCK IF EVEN THEY DON'T SPREAD LIES ABOUT A BAND THAT DOESN"T DESERVE TO BE SHIT ON! GET A CLUE ASSHOLES
― chocolate brown, Sunday, November 9, 2003 8:46 PM (fourteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

people say nice things about people after they die. its a thing. most people on earth haven't listened to a cranberries album in years. death is an excuse to remember.

i agree

Whether or not they were worthless she died too young, which is what made her death so notable.

We couldn't sneeze on the board the week Amy Winehouse copped it but an Irish woman dies and it's critical detachment month I see what's happening here

Also a good reason to set aside prejudice and rediscover. I’ve been listening to plenty of linkin park in the last 6 months and kicking myself for not having done so earlier

"why aren't more people being total assholes about this??? i demand justice!!"

We couldn't sneeze on the board the week Amy Winehouse copped it but an Irish woman dies and it's critical detachment month I see what's happening here

― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:53 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree

dmac otm

gave the first album a spin this morning, I still like that record even though it, for some reason, really reminds me of a bad period of my life where I was drinking a horrible lot and inlove with some girl who was really bad for me. I listened to lots of music then but that album for some reason really seems steeped in that; maybe because I didn't listen to it much after 1993.

listened to the first album a few months ago, much more dreamy than I remembered. probably one of the most nostalgic things I could listen to, considering I played it over and over then didn't listen to it for 15 years or so.

exactly. it's really that kind of record. maybe because they became so shit after the second one and people who were kind of on board earlier on abandoned them.

I even saw them live, with Suede (Suede opened, and were better)

that just means it's not foul play

― akm, Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:06 AM (one hour ago)

can't speak to Mark's unsourced quote, but in Australia, "The police said there were no suspicious circumstances" is newspaper code for suicide.

dreamy sweetness is the quintessence of the Cranberries for me -- i really only paid attention to the first 2 singles bc they were on the radio (was vaguely aware of zombie but was too deeply invested in my own snobbery at that point to care for that tbh) and it was so dreamy and sweet, whereas at the time i felt grizzled and gnarly and way too angry to be able to tolerate the sweetness. i also thought they had a lame band name. it was a bad time in my life that i am not keen to revisit, would prefer it encased in amber where i can continue to not think about it. RIP Dolores, you were cool and shouldn't have died so young.

i liked amanda petrusich's piece but for me it was probably pj harvey, not the cranberries

I suspect every young woman eventually finds a figure (or, more likely, a series of figures) who helps disabuse her of certain stifling notions about femininity, of all the outmoded binaries—the things a woman is supposed to choose between as she comes into her own. It feels almost quaint to point out now, in a cultural moment in which we’re rethinking the whole of gender dynamics, but, in the early nineties, O’Riordan helped further the then-iffy-seeming idea that a woman could be both beautiful and ferocious. She appeared accountable only to some internal voice—which meant we could be, too.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/postscript/the-ferocious-sublime-dolores-oriordan-of-the-cranberries

"why aren't more people being total assholes about this??? i demand justice!!"

― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:02 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

more like "people suddenly realize that 'Zombie' is not one of the worst songs of the '90s, would have been cool if they realized that while she was alive"

i also thought they had a lame band name

"more like "people suddenly realize that 'Zombie' is not one of the worst songs of the '90s, would have been cool if they realized that while she was alive"

eh, no, it is still one of the worst songs of the 90's. But Linger and Dreams are pretty good.

what was the original name?!
i always sort of lumped them in with 10,000 maniacs (even though they had been around for longer)

Original name: The Cranberry Saw Us

ugh seriously
that's awful

u_u

i always sort of lumped them in with 10,000 maniacs (even though they had been around for longer)

Seriously? Oh, you mean even though 10,000 Maniacs had been around longer.

I thought of them, initially, as sort of like the Sundays, but not as good or as tasteful. Because by the follow-u[ album I thought of the Cranberries the same way I thought of Live.

Mentioned before, by my fave weird bill was seeing the Cranberries open up for Frank Black opening up for The The in 1993.

Unconfirmed reports of deliberate Fentanyl o.d. coming in.

I gave the first two albums another spin today and still like 'em, and still stand by my opinion that 'Zombie' paved the way for a direction they weren't very good at. They were much better at the delicate numbers, and the production still holds up on the first two albums. What sunk their third record - and subsequently their career - was a combination of silly lyrics, inappropriate production and moving away from what people actually liked about them.

yes. well, clearly some people liked the direction they went in or they wouldn't have continued to put out six or seven albums that go in that direction.

All bands have their hardcore followers, and they're generally the wrong people to look at when assessing the popularity of a band.

Pretty much agree with Turrican. Loved these two records growing up and still do.

o'riordan's voice, specifically in the first album, sounds amazing in how it fades in and out during the bridge or whatever you want to call it

definitely reminiscent of elizabeth fraser at some parts

their lyrics have always been a bit crap, I never knew what any of them were in the first record then when I eventually looked them up I felt "oh." Lots of 'walking out through the door' etc

Nah ode to my family and linger have great lyrics

yes. well, clearly some people liked the direction they went in or they wouldn't have continued to put out six or seven albums that go in that direction.

― akm, Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:20 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they didn’t though. bury the hatchet was v much a scaling back from to the faithful departed

their singles are generally solid throughout (even “salvation” which i think has a v charming velocity) except “time is ticking out”

there are the cranberry saw us demos on youtube from cassettes they released pretty good stuff

'Salvation' is a very good performance and topline, but I can never get past how awful the lyric is.

Zombie is fine. as with many female musicians/celebrities many had a decent go at her when she had issues a few years back. it's pretty sad overall. idk. Dreams and Linger are better than a lot of the songs that probably inspired them. I always think of Chungking Express when I think of Dreams, even though it's a Faye Wong cover (extremely faithful to the original and therefore sublime.)

'Daffodil Lament' is probably the best song they ever did.

I adore NNTA, really like EEIDISWCW, never heard the rest. I am going to admit right here and now that I played NNTA more often than anything else in my dorm room in 1995

I came up with a dozen goodies.